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Old 01-19-2013, 01:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Would you bid if there is a blatant shilling?!

A serious general question.

Suppose a nice card valued at 2k has an asking price 10k, which seller probably doesn't really looking to sell. He probably oversnipes at top by 1 million, and some hopeful people might place a realsitic snipe at the end and only to reveal their bottomline.

Would you bid on these type of auctions? If answer is yes or depends on the cards, then what stops all the other sellers (who aren't in financial concern) doing the same on any cards you like?
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just bid what I'm willing to pay.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I really wish ebay would allow sellers to leave negs for NPB and only auctions that were paid for show up in completed listings. So many problems would be solved and not leave such a bitter taste in my mouth about bidding...

To answer your question though, if I want the card, Ill play the game
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I just forget the card then, it would be relisted and sold for less.

Happens 90% of the time
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No personally I wouldn't .

This hobby is such a rort with little poor scammers everywhere .
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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No, it's a matter of principle.
Collecting Topps NOW New York Yankees cards, so if you have any available, LMK.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pnft17 View Post
I just bid what I'm willing to pay.
If your after a card for X amount, then simply bid to what you wanna pay...
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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A card is only worth what "YOU" the buyer will pay no matter who is selling it. Ive bought pc cards from one of the biggest shillers on ebay but if i didnt i wouldnt have it in my pc now. its a catch 22 but if you want the card get it
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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From previous personal experience, I would have bid an amount less than my max out of principal if bidding at all, either that or I would win it to leave feedback on the seller, which I did, which got removed, which is why I left ebay...
Seller became one of the biggest patch fakers on ebay...
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:03 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pnft17 View Post
I just bid what I'm willing to pay.
same here.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Why can't ebay just end the "lowest amount possible" bids and end shilling all together? If I bid $5 on a card.. I'm willing to pay $5 for it right? Why do I need eBay to show my bid at 2.56 or whatever. People should just bid what they are willing to pay.. period
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There are 2 services offered by ebay.

1. BIN/BO. For those who dont want to spend time on bidding, waiting and are looking to pay a fixed price (only willing pay $x). If you want to pay $500 for a card listed at $1000 OBO then you send an offer of $500. Simple as that. If they accept Hooray! If not, you are given 2 more chances at offers, but what for? I mean you sent an offer of what you wanted to pay, why would ever send anything else? Makes no sense

2. Auctions. Auctions are for people who have time and like to proxy bid. Bid early/late, play the game to see if you can win the auction for less then your intended budget on the card. In most cases this also envokes emotions that lead you to pay more than you are willing. Ebay likes this and needs it as the more you pay, the more they make. Auctions are used by ebay and many auction houses for this reason. It envokes an emotion that gets out of hand and leads you eventually pay more/bid more eventhough you had no intention to because you get caught up in the action and suddenly change your stance on budget.

Pretty simple choice in my opinion. If you're the type that want to pay an exact price on a card, then just BIN/BO on items. If you want to gamble at getting one cheaper and have time to bid, go the auction route.
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