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Old 01-19-2013, 09:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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His 2011 redemptions will be seen as xrc. His 2012 card will be seen as rookies. A rc doesnt matter if it comes a year later. Its still a rookie. Look at peja stojavic. His rookie was was 97 I think but his rc came out in 98. I think thats how it was, not 100% sure
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:59 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Rule On rookies states that the Rookie card is the first card # in a particular set to be issued is the Rookie. Example Derrick Rose Card #111 is his rookie. Card #151 is an autograph, different photo, and not his true rookie.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:03 PM   #28 (permalink)
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i hope so, i invested in a couple kyrie prizm rcs
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yes Kyrie Gold prizm is his most valuable card of all time.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:35 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Yes Kyrie Gold prizm is his most valuable card of all time.

until somebody pulls the select black prizm
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:43 AM   #31 (permalink)
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This is going to differ for every collector. For me... The 11/12 autos are his true rookies since he was a rookie in 11/12.

I hate how panini did this whole stupid "double rookie class". They could have just made rookies last year, even though it would have only been in a few sets. They intentionally created this whole scam.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:11 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I hate how panini did this whole stupid "double rookie class". They could have just made rookies last year, even though it would have only been in a few sets. They intentionally created this whole scam.


you're in a small minority.

most people i deal with are ecstatic there will be 15+ kyrie RC rather than 2 or 3.

most people think it was a brilliant move to save last years rookies since they didn't care about last year's products for most of the year, and it adds value to this year's which they do care about.

most collectors i deal with don't give a rats ass about what should or shouldn't be a RC from some uptight purist standpoint.

also it wasn't a scam. Panini was quite up front about what they were doing and why.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:00 PM   #33 (permalink)
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If they wanted to do this double rookie class thing then fine. But then they should not have put the redemptions in the 11/12 product, because all it has done is lead to confusion.

Either put the redemptions in 11/12 and call them rookies, or don't put anything in 11/12 and then do the double rookie class.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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12/13 Will be seen as Kyrie's rookie. 11/12 the lack of products and the lockout/redemption factor will make 11/12s look like an XRC.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:16 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Its yes! That's why 2012-13 are loaded with rookie cards. Double rookie class.
So Kyrie Irving Prizm is a rookie card.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:04 AM   #36 (permalink)
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If they wanted to do this double rookie class thing then fine. But then they should not have put the redemptions in the 11/12 product, because all it has done is lead to confusion.


it's only confusing from some sort of philosophical ultra-purist standpoint. the card market and the vast majority of collectors aren't confused in the slightest.

redemptions for future cards of rookies with no current cards are XRC. first cards in actual products are RC. it's not like this hasn't happened dozens of times before.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:10 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Another point. Insert cards are not rookie cards. Panini's own checklist has them as an insert and numbered as such.

2011 Draft Pick Autograph Redemptions
# Person Seq.
1
2011 Draft Pick Auto XRCA
FAN - No NBA Team

2
2011 Draft Pick Auto XRCB
FAN - No NBA Team

3
2011 Draft Pick Auto XRCC
FAN - No NBA Team

4
2011 Draft Pick Auto XRCD
FAN - No NBA Team

5
2011 Draft Pick Auto XRCE
FAN - No NBA Team

6
2011 Draft Pick Auto XRCF
FAN - No NBA Team

7
2011 Draft Pick Auto XRCG
FAN - No NBA Team

8
2011 Draft Pick Auto XRCH
FAN - No NBA Team


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