Which ALLSTAR/HOF'ER do u feel doesn't get enough respect these days?

gonygo · 01-21-2013, 03:48 PM

I was watching a special about James Worthy. He was so amazing. I wonder what and how he would have done on a different team, with the chance to be the top dog. Also, Dominique was so sick. Just two guys that don't get enough props. Also, i never saw him play , but Rick Barry put up some sick #'s and from the little i did see and/read about him, he appeared to be a scoring machine. Anyone have any thoughts about players from the 70's, 80's, 90's and early 2000's that should probably be spoken about a little bit more often and held in higher regard?

Orangejello727 · 01-21-2013, 03:50 PM

Elgin Baylor

Quigley24 · 01-21-2013, 03:53 PM

Elgin Baylor, Wilt Chamberlain, Bob Pettit, most players pre-1970 don't get the recognition they deserve. Larry Bird is also slightly under appreciated IMO.

WillC · 01-21-2013, 03:56 PM

I can think of plenty of pre-NBA players who deserve more respect, but I guess that's always going to be the case since they played before television made the sport popular.

Using your criteria of 1970s onwards, I think the following players deserve a lot more respect:

- Dave Cowens: Absolute beast of a player. Honestly, I can't think of many players I enjoy watching more than old tape of Dave Cowens. He was insane!

- Connie Hawkins: One of the most fun players to watch of all-time. He is unknown by many casual fans, which is such a shame.

- Gus Johnson: One of the first power dunkers (who also possessed grace and style) and a tremendous defender too. Revered by his peers.

- Marques Johnson: One of the best all-around talents of the 1980s. The very definition of 'underrated'.

In fact, there are dozens of underrated players I can think of: Alex English, Bob Lanier, Bob Dandridge, Mark Aguirre, Paul Westphal, etc.

Jef · 01-21-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WillC

I can think of plenty of pre-NBA players who deserve more respect, but I guess that's always going to be the case since they played before television made the sport popular.

Using your criteria of 1970s onwards, I think the following players deserve a lot more respect:

- Dave Cowens: Absolute beast of a player. Honestly, I can't think of many players I enjoy watching more than old tape of Dave Cowens. He was insane!

- Connie Hawkins: One of the most fun players to watch of all-time. He is unknown by many casual fans, which is such a shame.

- Gus Johnson: One of the first power dunkers (who also possessed grace and style) and a tremendous defender too. Revered by his peers.

- Marques Johnson: One of the best all-around talents of the 1980s. The very definition of 'underrated'.

In fact, there are dozens of underrated players I can think of: Alex English, Bob Lanier, Bob Dandridge, Mark Aguirre, Paul Westphal, etc.

good post, Will. you are obviously very into the history of the game, and i am going to spend a lot of my day off doing some youtubing of these guys.

IronMonkey415 · 01-21-2013, 04:07 PM

Chris Mullin

WillC · 01-21-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jef

good post, Will. you are obviously very into the history of the game, and i am going to spend a lot of my day off doing some youtubing of these guys.

I'm obsessed with the history of the game. I have a bookshelves full of autobiographies, basketball history books, etc. For example, just this Christmas alone I received 8 or 9 basketball books, some dating from the 1950s and 60s.

Here's my favourite Connie Hawkins video (the Marvin Gaye soundtrack matches the Hawk's smooth moves perfectly): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp3UX...JKoaA&index=50

And a nice compilation of Gus Johnson: HONEYCOMB: The Incredible Gus Johnson | (Rare NBA Highlights of the Lebron James of the 1960s) - YouTube

Both those videos feature rare footage.

realreodeal · 01-21-2013, 04:08 PM

Currently David West is an afterthought by most casual observers but he has been solid his entire career. Also David Lee, Horford and Josh Smith.

Knicker_Please · 01-21-2013, 04:11 PM

Walt Clyde Frazier

lyyca · 01-21-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMonkey415

Chris Mullin

I said going to say him ^^ because of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMfn6-mb8_4

khouzza · 01-21-2013, 04:32 PM

Kevin Johnson and Mookie Blaylock 2 pretty special point guards from the 90's.

hotbox · 01-21-2013, 04:35 PM

Paul Arizin, Dave Bing

groundsupport · 01-21-2013, 04:46 PM

Yao Ming has completely fallen off of the Map.

WillC · 01-21-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hotbox

Paul Arizin, Dave Bing

Good choices.

I just finished reading 'From Set Shots to Slam Dunk' by Charles Salzburg. Each chapter features the memoirs of different players from the NBA's early years. Two or three of the memoirs include references to Arizin being a nightmare to mark. In fact, some players described him as 'unguardable'.

EMD34 · 01-21-2013, 05:29 PM

Moses Malone

Kent Clements · 01-21-2013, 05:29 PM

Alex English

vc15jrich23 · 01-21-2013, 05:58 PM

Vince Carter- I understand why people do not like him but that doesn't change the fact that back in the day he brought back the dunk contest and made it fun to watch. Also most basketball fans would watch sportscenter just to see what amazing dunk he did that night. He has also been playing good this year with dallas. He has had a few off nights but I have seen numerous games where he will score 15-25 pts in about 25 minutes. He also had some great dunks a few nights ago.

OKCThunder35 · 01-21-2013, 06:03 PM

How bout Isaiah Thomas. His stuff gets not love

hotbox · 01-21-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vc15jrich23

Vince Carter- I understand why people do not like him but that doesn't change the fact that back in the day he brought back the dunk contest and made it fun to watch. Also most basketball fans would watch sportscenter just to see what amazing dunk he did that night. He has also been playing good this year with dallas. He has had a few off nights but I have seen numerous games where he will score 15-25 pts in about 25 minutes. He also had some great dunks a few nights ago.

Vince is/was one of my all time favorites, he was a huge spark plug.

bdoody42 · 01-21-2013, 06:17 PM

McHale,Parrish,Gervin,and Isiah are some that come to mind first.

jj2 · 01-21-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OKCThunder35

How bout Isaiah Thomas. His stuff gets not love

Or Joe Dumars.

2 x NBA champ
Finals MVP
6 time All Star
4 x NBA defensive first team

imapippenfan · 01-21-2013, 07:26 PM

Ed Macauley!

-College Champion (1949)
-College POTY (1949)
-NBA Champion (1958)
-7-time All-Star (1951-57)
-First ever All-Star Game MVP (1951)
-Averaged 17.5 ppg over his 10-year career
-Was part of trade that brought Bill Russell to Boston
-Youngest to ever be inducted into HOF (32 years old)
-Head Coach in college and NBA
-Authored a book, and was a Deacon
-And a really nice guy to boot!

CP3toOKC · 01-21-2013, 07:26 PM

Wes Unseld

gonygo · 01-21-2013, 07:58 PM

I think Abdul-Jabbar doesn't get enough respect...

OKCThunder35 · 01-21-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gonygo

I think Abdul-Jabbar doesn't get enough respect...

Very true statement

01-21-2013, 03:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
gonygo Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: U.S./east coast Posts: 2,527	Which ALLSTAR/HOF'ER do u feel doesn't get enough respect these days? I was watching a special about James Worthy. He was so amazing. I wonder what and how he would have done on a different team, with the chance to be the top dog. Also, Dominique was so sick. Just two guys that don't get enough props. Also, i never saw him play , but Rick Barry put up some sick #'s and from the little i did see and/read about him, he appeared to be a scoring machine. Anyone have any thoughts about players from the 70's, 80's, 90's and early 2000's that should probably be spoken about a little bit more often and held in higher regard? __________________ Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. I'm both

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WillC Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5,236	I can think of plenty of pre-NBA players who deserve more respect, but I guess that's always going to be the case since they played before television made the sport popular. Using your criteria of 1970s onwards, I think the following players deserve a lot more respect: - Dave Cowens: Absolute beast of a player. Honestly, I can't think of many players I enjoy watching more than old tape of Dave Cowens. He was insane! - Connie Hawkins: One of the most fun players to watch of all-time. He is unknown by many casual fans, which is such a shame. - Gus Johnson: One of the first power dunkers (who also possessed grace and style) and a tremendous defender too. Revered by his peers. - Marques Johnson: One of the best all-around talents of the 1980s. The very definition of 'underrated'. In fact, there are dozens of underrated players I can think of: Alex English, Bob Lanier, Bob Dandridge, Mark Aguirre, Paul Westphal, etc. __________________ I collect autographed, game used and vintage cards of basketball legends and pioneers: http://will23c1982.smugmug.com/Sports/Hall-of-Fame

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vc15jrich23 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,827	Vince Carter- I understand why people do not like him but that doesn't change the fact that back in the day he brought back the dunk contest and made it fun to watch. Also most basketball fans would watch sportscenter just to see what amazing dunk he did that night. He has also been playing good this year with dallas. He has had a few off nights but I have seen numerous games where he will score 15-25 pts in about 25 minutes. He also had some great dunks a few nights ago. __________________ I was informed, I can no longer post the names of user's who have scammed in the past, if you get scammed blame blowout for not allowing me to post names. Oh yeah, if it is a veteran member those threads get deleted too.

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