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Old 03-16-2013, 10:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Jim Boeheim is most overrated coach in college history!

A coach with the third most wins, and only one championship! Only because he had one of the best offensive players ever (melo). He has been to 5 elite eights in about 40 years. Getting the elite is the norm for a team like kansas or duke. Doesn't make adjustments no matter what is going on. Louisville is on a 44-10 run and everything was a wide open shop, 3 or dunk. STubborn, he stays in the 2-3 zone. Absurd how any one thinks he is a good coach!! And the reason why he can recruit is because he tells his players they sit in a 2-3 zone. All his players are very lazy but talented!

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A coach with the third most wins, and only one championship! Only because he had one of the best offensive players ever (melo). He has been to 5 elite eights in about 40 years. Getting the elite is the norm for a team like kansas or duke. Doesn't make adjustments no matter what is going on. Louisville is on a 44-10 run and everything was a wide open shop, 3 or dunk. STubborn, he stays in the 2-3 zone. Absurd how any one thinks he is a good coach!! And the reason why he can recruit is because he tells his players they sit in a 2-3 zone. All his players are very lazy but talented!
Alright, that makes a lot sense. The 2-3 zone has worked and worked very well, just because they have a bad game he should change everything? He is a coach who is in the most difficult league and has been pretty consistent. Not exactly the most overrated coach but you are open to your own opinion.
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A coach with the third most wins, and only one championship! Only because he had one of the best offensive players ever (melo). He has been to 5 elite eights in about 40 years. Getting the elite is the norm for a team like kansas or duke. Doesn't make adjustments no matter what is going on. Louisville is on a 44-10 run and everything was a wide open shop, 3 or dunk. STubborn, he stays in the 2-3 zone. Absurd how any one thinks he is a good coach!! And the reason why he can recruit is because he tells his players they sit in a 2-3 zone. All his players are very lazy but talented!
I hate to be rude, but this is just an ignorant statement
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He aint know Dean Smith, Coack K or Bob Knight. He is overrated
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He aint know Dean Smith, Coack K or Bob Knight. He is overrated
So every coach who is not Coach K, bobby knight or dean smith is overrated? Boeheim is one of the best coaches in college basketball, there is no question about it.
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A coach with the third most wins, and only one championship! Only because he had one of the best offensive players ever (melo). He has been to 5 elite eights in about 40 years. Getting the elite is the norm for a team like kansas or duke. Doesn't make adjustments no matter what is going on. Louisville is on a 44-10 run and everything was a wide open shop, 3 or dunk. STubborn, he stays in the 2-3 zone. Absurd how any one thinks he is a good coach!! And the reason why he can recruit is because he tells his players they sit in a 2-3 zone. All his players are very lazy but talented!
900 wins is quite overrated
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What does 900 wins mean? Why is that so special? Does it win him championships? Does it get him far in the tournament that counts? 5 elite 8's in his entire what 40 years of coaching? Why is my statement ignorant. I've noticed that 2 of the people who disagree are from either upstate new york, or new york, the other two doesn't show lol. I'm a SU student and witness all this up close. Mark my words, i don't even know if i can call this a bold prediction, but ill say it anyway. There is no chance syracuse makes it past the first weekend. And depending on the matchup, i like them to get bounced first round. Too sickening to watch carter williams and triche, by far THE most overrated back court in the country. MCW lottery pick? i just lold typing that.
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Compare the talent that Duke, UNC, Kentucky has had to Syracuse.

Bet its tilted in one direction
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You're deeply mistaken. Jim Boeheim is an excellent recruiter as is Mike Hopkins their main assistant. They have top of the line recruiting classes year in and year out, please save that argument for someone else. Also keep in mind, talent does not always translate to wins. UConn last year had Drummond, Lamb, Napier, Oriakhi and they were AWFUL... Easily 2nd most talented team in the nation to Kentucky. They have 6 very good recruits coming in next year and a 5 star already locked up for 2014. Boeheim runs 0 offense and defense is a stubborn moron who will never leave his 2-3 zone. Did you watch the game tonight? Rick Pitino drove him to school and back and left milk and cookies on the table for him to enjoy after school.... Every shot was wide open and easy. Boeheim never changed what he did and it was no surprise that they lost.
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A coach with the third most wins, and only one championship! Only because he had one of the best offensive players ever (melo). He has been to 5 elite eights in about 40 years. Getting the elite is the norm for a team like kansas or duke. Doesn't make adjustments no matter what is going on. Louisville is on a 44-10 run and everything was a wide open shop, 3 or dunk. STubborn, he stays in the 2-3 zone. Absurd how any one thinks he is a good coach!! And the reason why he can recruit is because he tells his players they sit in a 2-3 zone. All his players are very lazy but talented!
i've always thought this. very good coach, but not one i would ever include in the list of all-time greats

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He aint know Dean Smith, Coack K or Bob Knight. He is overrated
that is for sure. but you should have included wooden in your list.
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One does not simply get to 900 wins by accident.
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How many coaches have 900 wins? heck how many coaches even have 1 NCAA Championship? How many coaches have been at 1 university as long as Boeheim has?
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How many coaches have 900 wins? heck how many coaches even have 1 NCAA Championship? How many coaches have been at 1 university as long as Boeheim has?
A good comparison is Joe Paterno, another horribly overrated coach
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A good comparison is Joe Paterno, another horribly overrated coach
I would also disagree with that statement
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A good comparison is Joe Paterno, another horribly overrated coach
For everyone's sake, lets leave JoePa out of it.

I think the rule is if you reach 500 wins, you can no longer be considered overrated.

No way somebody with 900 wins can be considered overrated.
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You sound so dumb... is it also his fault that cuse has 3 current nba players...

melo dion waiters and hakim warrick....

and i guess as some1 said before 900 wins is pure luck

and if someone else was the coach they would win every game this season...

its also boheim's fault that southerland picked up his 4th foul... and since they lost in the big east championship to the number 1 overall team in the national going into the tourny.... well i guess he is a terrible coach


lol this is a more then funny thread
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He aint know Dean Smith, Coack K or Bob Knight. He is overrated
So, Jim Calhoun and John Wooden were overrated? HAHAHAHA you're an idiot.
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.747 winning average, ZERO losing seasons. OP acts
Like winning a national title is a walk in the park....to have this type of record in over 30 years of coaching is an amazing feat.
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You sound so dumb... is it also his fault that cuse has 3 current nba players...

melo dion waiters and hakim warrick....

and i guess as some1 said before 900 wins is pure luck

and if someone else was the coach they would win every game this season...

its also boheim's fault that southerland picked up his 4th foul... and since they lost in the big east championship to the number 1 overall team in the national going into the tourny.... well i guess he is a terrible coach


lol this is a more then funny thread
Ummmmmm, Melo, Warrick, Waiters, Jonny Flynn, Donte Greene, Wesley Johnson, Andy Rautins, Demetris Nichols, Kris Joseph, all made NBA rosters in the last 10 years
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A coach with the third most wins, and only one championship! Only because he had one of the best offensive players ever (melo). He has been to 5 elite eights in about 40 years. Getting the elite is the norm for a team like kansas or duke. Doesn't make adjustments no matter what is going on. Louisville is on a 44-10 run and everything was a wide open shop, 3 or dunk. STubborn, he stays in the 2-3 zone. Absurd how any one thinks he is a good coach!! And the reason why he can recruit is because he tells his players they sit in a 2-3 zone. All his players are very lazy but talented!
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Ummmmmm, Melo, Warrick, Waiters, Jonny Flynn, Donte Greene, Wesley Johnson, Andy Rautins, Demetris Nichols, Kris Joseph, all made NBA rosters in the last 10 years
Donte Green what a waste. Should have never left. I spoke to the kid and told him what I thought about his potential many times that year :/
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I won't defend the OPs statement, but in terms of the other coaches in his win total neighborhood, his resume is lacking.

Never liked him much myself, but he's obviously a very good coach. I wouldn't say great coach, though.
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I won't defend the OPs statement, but in terms of the other coaches in his win total neighborhood, his resume is lacking.

Never liked him much myself, but he's obviously a very good coach. I wouldn't say great coach, though.
I pretty much agree with everything you said. Good coach, but compared to those he's compared with, he's lacking to be considered one of the elite coaches, only 3 final 4's kinda kills it for me.
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So, Jim Calhoun and John Wooden were overrated? HAHAHAHA you're an idiot.
he definitely missed wooden, but i sure wouldn't put calhoun in that group. he has run a dirty program for years. i don't consider boeheim a true great, but i'd rather list him with these legends than calhoun as at least boeheim ran a clean program
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