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Old 05-29-2013, 07:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everyone. The question is simple...okay maybe not... What should the Celtics do this offseason? This one of the teams with the most question marks going into next season. Do they keep the core together? Do they blow it up? Wo should they draft?
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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IMO they have to go in one of two extremes. Either blow it ALL up, which includes trading Rondo and Green, or keep Pierce with the possibility of dealing him at the deadline. I think there is a lot of benefit in this league of having an expiring contract, and with the retirement rules the way they are (in terms of salary cap impact) buying out Pierce and letting KG walk doesn't free up much money. If they get rid of those two they are still better than Milwaukee with Rondo, Green, Sullinger, Bradley, etc. so they are too good to rebuild quickly. If they let Pierce mature off the books naturally they don't have to take on any contracts in a return trade and they have a product they can sell for next year. I think the people that want to trade Pierce to rebuild forget the money has to match, which means you either take on a bad contract to get a late first roung pick, or you pick up a ghost contract that still impacts your salary cap ala Keith Van Horn at the end of his career. The same goes for trading Rondo and Green. They both make 10+ million next year, so it is either a sign and trade for a max player or you take on bad contracts to get draft picks/ young players with potential.

I personally would like to see Pierce stick it out, but it is not his option at this point, and I do think having him around hurts Jeff Green's development if they believe he is capable of taking the next step.
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My personal opinion is to either trade pierce and kg together to a contender but only if you get good young players in return. Otherwise I would stay put and waive Jason terry and maybe dish some bench players. I think they can hold kg and pierce another season and still compete as long as they strengthen their bench offensively and no star players get hurt. I think they could have beaten the Knicks if they had rondo in the post season. Pierce wouldn't be over worked and wouldn't bring up the ball and could do all of his good things. Turnovers would be cut down and Bradley could go to shooting guard and their bench would be rock solid with green as the sixth man! That's my opinion. Stay put unless something great comes, dish the old bench guys (Jason terry) and get younger on the bench and hope that their rookie steps up, and sully comes back strong (along with rondo) and maybe fab Melo can develop into a good big man(could learn from kg)
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I really don't want to see them lose green, bradley, or Sullinger, even though those are the only guys with much value other than rondo. I wouldn't mind if pierce didn't come back, but I would much rather him retire than go to another team. On the other hand, I would like to see garnett return for another year just to be a leader for some of the younger guys.
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I really don't want to see them lose green, bradley, or Sullinger, even though those are the only guys with much value other than rondo. I wouldn't mind if pierce didn't come back, but I would much rather him retire than go to another team. On the other hand, I would like to see garnett return for another year just to be a leader for some of the younger guys.

Would be nice for the Feltics to keep the young talent they have. I really would love to see Pierce retire a Celtic...what drat picks do they have this year? Can they even get any solid role players?
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I would like to see them get Josh Smith.
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I would like to see them get Josh Smith.
I would pass on Smith. He wants a max contract I have heard. He is not worth that much. I think on a championship caliber team he can be no better than a third option. He still falls in love with shooting threes and long twos. He is a good defender but not worth a max.
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I honestly have no idea. We need a center badly. It would be cool to get Kevin Love.
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I honestly have no idea. We need a center badly. It would be cool to get Kevin Love.
Any ideas how that could happen?
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A couple updates from Jackie M.

Jackie Mac on CSNNE: "I'm hearing that Kevin Garnett is coming back for one more year... they're all waiting on KG"
3:51 PM - 30 May 2013

More Jackie Mac: "Everyone knows that they covet Paul Millsap" When asked what she thinks "Plan A" is, she said getting Millsap
3:54 PM - 30 May 2013
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Hey everyone. The question is simple...okay maybe not... What should the Celtics do this offseason? This one of the teams with the most question marks going into next season. Do they keep the core together? Do they blow it up? Wo should they draft?
Blowing it up rarely makes sense to me. I think they reshuffle some pieces and try and keep the core together for one more year. Frontline depth is a must.
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One pick in the draft, which would be around the 16th or 17th pick, I believe.

Here is a list of the salaries

Not a Celtics fan, but they seem to be at the point of drafting the best big man available unless they move Pierce and/or Green/Terry, then a scoring wing is a must and they would most likely acquire a big man in free agency.
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Paul Milsap? A target? I dont believe it. Danny knows he likes to rebound right? He usually stays away from those types
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Paul Milsap? A target? I dont believe it. Danny knows he likes to rebound right? He usually stays away from those types
He is a perfect fit for what the Celtics do.
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He is a perfect fit for what the Celtics do.
No kidding, I was being sarcastic.
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No kidding, I was being sarcastic.
I understand that.
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Milsap or Al Jefferson, too good to be true for what Angie did past few years.
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I can see Bradley being traded in a sign and trade for even Jefferson or Milsap. Makes too much sense to ,e
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Issue for the Celtics is that they cannot do S&T's unless they buy out Pierce.
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Issue for the Celtics is that they cannot do S&T's unless they buy out Pierce.
Or get someone to take Lee/Terry/Bass.
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blow it up and trade pierce and kg to the lakers haha. jk. but at least they would have a crack at the heat
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Any ideas how that could happen?
No clue . But the Celtics just need a stronger front court. And a good SG also.
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I like Boston and Indiana so Rondo to the Pacers if anywhere please! Granger and George Hill and then Pacers need a shooter at the 2.
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