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Old 06-13-2013, 01:41 AM   #326 (permalink)
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I have two boxes coming in on Monday...but while I'm waiting for that...decided to make a Google Docs Sheet for you guys to view of the complete checklist with what is currently on eBay, been pulled on here, or on youtube. You should be able to click on the ones that have links to them.

If you see any others, I have missed...let me know

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Old 06-13-2013, 06:30 AM   #327 (permalink)
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Ya that guy has like 4 of the best cards. He also has a anfernee hardaway 1/10
No one else finds it concerning that this guy has 4 big hits, all serial numbered the same as the preview that Hackler did on his blog? Seems very suspicious to me.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:49 AM   #328 (permalink)
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Actually, looking at it some more, he has 6 of the exact same cards from the preview? Iverson /5, West /5, Pippen /5, Irving /25, and Hardaway /10??????

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Old 06-13-2013, 06:51 AM   #329 (permalink)
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Actually, looking at it some more, he has 6 of the exact same cards from the preview? Iverson /5, West /5, Pippen /5, Irving /25, and Hardaway /10??????

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And looking back at the NFL promo, he has the Manning Diamond 1/1 and the Bart Starr 1/3 that was part of the promo preview...

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Old 06-13-2013, 07:19 AM   #330 (permalink)
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And looking back at the NFL promo, he has the Manning Diamond 1/1 and the Bart Starr 1/3 that was part of the promo preview...

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Before everyone goes into conspiracy theory mode it is more than likely that Hackler pulled out what would be the first cards sent out for the preview and one of 2 things happen. This guy is on the twitter feed and is often one of the very first to take advantage of these offers or he realizes that the cards Tracy pulls for the preview WILL be the ones to pack out first and watches the store like a hawk to be the first one in with an order.
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Before everyone goes into conspiracy theory mode it is more than likely that Hackler pulled out what would be the first cards sent out for the preview and one of 2 things happen. This guy is on the twitter feed and is often one of the very first to take advantage of these offers or he realizes that the cards Tracy pulls for the preview WILL be the ones to pack out first and watches the store like a hawk to be the first one in with an order.
If this is not true the odds he got those by random would be astronomical.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:53 AM   #332 (permalink)
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I think someone should ask a 'shipping' question on eBay (the kind that post to the bottom of the listing), and ask "If you receive the shipment from Panini after 5pm, how can they items be shipped same day?"

Many major cities have at least one post office (often the one by a major airport) that is open late. Even if the item isn't leaving the post office until the next day, it can still show up as shipped for postal tracking purposes because it has been scanned at the counter.
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:11 AM   #333 (permalink)
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And looking back at the NFL promo, he has the Manning Diamond 1/1 and the Bart Starr 1/3 that was part of the promo preview...

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That is extremely shady. Hopefully he doesn't have any if the 1/1's
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:14 AM   #334 (permalink)
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my box is on the FedEx truck for delivery today
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Before everyone goes into conspiracy theory mode it is more than likely that Hackler pulled out what would be the first cards sent out for the preview and one of 2 things happen. This guy is on the twitter feed and is often one of the very first to take advantage of these offers or he realizes that the cards Tracy pulls for the preview WILL be the ones to pack out first and watches the store like a hawk to be the first one in with an order.
i highly doubt that the very first boxes sent out would be most of the major hits they put out on preview, and in perfect order.
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Before everyone goes into conspiracy theory mode it is more than likely that Hackler pulled out what would be the first cards sent out for the preview and one of 2 things happen. This guy is on the twitter feed and is often one of the very first to take advantage of these offers or he realizes that the cards Tracy pulls for the preview WILL be the ones to pack out first and watches the store like a hawk to be the first one in with an order.
This is more unrealistic than just about any possible conspiracy theory.
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I have two boxes coming in on Monday...but while I'm waiting for that...decided to make a Google Docs Sheet for you guys to view of the complete checklist with what is currently on eBay, been pulled on here, or on youtube. You should be able to click on the ones that have links to them.

If you see any others, I have missed...let me know

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Wc&usp=sharing
You figured out the numbering I couldn't make out from the Gallery.
Cartwright is #/25 - one was pulled by someone in this thread, but he didn't give the number.
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my box is on the FedEx truck for delivery today
Mine was shipped yesterday but wont be here until monday?! It takes 6 days from texas to ohio?
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This is more unrealistic than just about any possible conspiracy theory.
Why would it be unrealistic. Consider this. Tracy goes to their packout facility and pulls cards off the line that he wants to post. Once he's got the pictures he wants, he brings them back to the facility where those cards just get stacked at the front of packout, meaning that whoever gets their order fulfilled first, would get those very cards in the preview. One would only hope that the 1/1s, 2/2s, and 3/3s that he previewed, they actually strategically re-seeded into the packout run.
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I pulled Jalen Rose /10, Hakeem Olajuwon /15, and George Mcginnis /10
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I pulled Jalen Rose /10, Hakeem Olajuwon /15, and George Mcginnis /10
Do you have the actual serial numbering for those of us tracking?
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Hakeem 14/15, Jalen 5/10, Mcginnis 3/10
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:05 PM   #343 (permalink)
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Got two more today. A Toni Kukoc #10/10 and John Salley #/25, not nearly as good as my first two packs, but oh well. Still have one more on the way, hopefully it contains one of the rookie patches.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:38 PM   #344 (permalink)
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Why would it be unrealistic. Consider this. Tracy goes to their packout facility and pulls cards off the line that he wants to post. Once he's got the pictures he wants, he brings them back to the facility where those cards just get stacked at the front of packout, meaning that whoever gets their order fulfilled first, would get those very cards in the preview. One would only hope that the 1/1s, 2/2s, and 3/3s that he previewed, they actually strategically re-seeded into the packout run.
How do you know this? Do you work for Tracy? Do you follow him around wherever he goes? If you work there and know their policy, then you might be correct. If you just assume that's the way it works, then that's probably wrong. You think at the packout facility everything is ordered based on the better hits? Is it like one giant conveyor belt? How does he know if a Penny Hardaway /10 is better than a John Stockton /10? The most obvious and fair assumption is that everything is mixed in. Like a shuffled deck of cards. Nobody will get anything better if they are first to order or if they are last. That is assuming they are doing this promotion fairly, and don't give the low numbered good cards to their favored customers or distributors. Which might be possible. We will never know will we.
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How do you know this? Do you work for Tracy? Do you follow him around wherever he goes? If you work there and know their policy, then you might be correct. If you just assume that's the way it works, then that's probably wrong. You think at the packout facility everything is ordered based on the better hits? Is it like one giant conveyor belt? How does he know if a Penny Hardaway /10 is better than a John Stockton /10? The most obvious and fair assumption is that everything is mixed in. Like a shuffled deck of cards. Nobody will get anything better if they are first to order or if they are last. That is assuming they are doing this promotion fairly, and don't give the low numbered good cards to their favored customers or distributors. Which might be possible. We will never know will we.
I'm simply offering an explanation as to why this dude's cards are the exact same ones from the preview. I'm not assuming any sort of loaded collation or back door shenanigans.
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I'm simply offering an explanation as to why this dude's cards are the exact same ones from the preview. I'm not assuming any sort of loaded collation or back door shenanigans.
I know that, it just doesn't seem too possible. IMO, I agree with that other fella, shenanigans are more likely than your theory, that's all. No worries.

Now go pull some nice cards from your packs!
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I know that, it just doesn't seem too possible. IMO, I agree with that other fella, shenanigans are more likely than your theory, that's all. No worries.

Now go pull some nice cards from your packs!
Definitely shenanigans. I just hope that all the best cards weren't packed out to those who ordered first! I say this because I was one of the last to place my order.
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Actually, looking at it some more, he has 6 of the exact same cards from the preview? Iverson /5, West /5, Pippen /5, Irving /25, and Hardaway /10??????

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If this guy lists one of the Diamond cards, I'd be pretty damn sure there's something funny going on. We'll have to see..

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If this guy lists one of the Diamond cards, I'd be pretty damn sure there's something funny going on. We'll have to see..

Receiving my boxes next week on Tuesday. I hate living in Hawaii for these reasons.. Always the last to receive orders/pre orders..
No you're not...apparently, even though I place my orders on June 6th and Panini said they were shipping June 11th, they still haven't left the warehouse, so you'll have your boxes before I have mine (rant over)...
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i don't care what any one says. something is not right about this seller. i don't care if you bought 100 boxes during this Finals promotion. you still wouldn't pull the cards he has listed. no way he beats the odds to get those pulls. i'm curious to know how he keeps getting more and more of the ones #/5. he just listed iverson and jerry west now... hmmmm...
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