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Old 06-28-2013, 03:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Will Anyone Waste Their Money on 2013-14 Basketball Product?

I'm sure a lot of you will waste your money but why would you do that when the 2012-13 basketball product has 2 ROOKIE classes, both of which are better than this class. I'm going to milk the 2012-13 product for as long as I can. You can keep the upcoming seasons products.
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I will continue to pick up Allen Iverson stuff
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I'm an IP auto collector so I wil buy the low end products. Hopefully panini will not overcharge for them.
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I can rly not afford products normally, but for the new class unless something intense goes on, I will probably just try to pick up singles of anyone in new jerseys and whatnot for PC.
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Well off the rip Bennett, Noel, McLemore, Burke, Oladipo and Porter I think will sell well and right there is 6. How many guys from the "historic double rookie class" sell well? Maybe 10, but its littered with crap d league rookies and such, I will much rather take my chances on next years products to hit a big name rookie than this years. Its simple math really, 66 rookie possibilities versus maybe 35.
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Well off the rip Bennett, Noel, McLemore, Burke, Oladipo and Porter I think will sell well and right there is 6. How many guys from the "historic double rookie class" sell well? Maybe 10, but its littered with crap d league rookies and such, I will much rather take my chances on next years products to hit a big name rookie than this years. Its simple math really, 66 rookie possibilities versus maybe 35.
so a 17% chance vs a 15% is much better in your opinion.
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I wouldn't mind to open some boxes at discounted price if there is no hype on any of this year RCs.
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so a 17% chance vs a 15% is much better in your opinion.
Yes it is. Take Contenders for example which has always been 4 (usually) rookie autos per box. Don't you like your chances better when there is only 35 possible names vs 66?
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Well off the rip Bennett, Noel, McLemore, Burke, Oladipo and Porter I think will sell well and right there is 6. How many guys from the "historic double rookie class" sell well? Maybe 10, but its littered with crap d league rookies and such, I will much rather take my chances on next years products to hit a big name rookie than this years. Its simple math really, 66 rookie possibilities versus maybe 35.
Off the rip Kyrie and Lillard are on a whole other level than anyone in this draft.

Davis is not at Kyrie's level but he is also MUCH higher.

Kawhi, Faried, Klay, Drummond, MKG, Barnes, Beal are the next tier.

Last tier - All players that are collectible.

Kemba, Tobias, Kanter, Jonas, Thompson, Williams, Knight, Vucevic, Shumpert, Chandler Parsons, Donatas Motiejūnas, Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler, Isiah Thomas, Norris Cole, Jimmer, Marshon, Waiters, Robinson, Rivers, Sullinger, Lamb, Fournier, Jones, and Harkless.

So by my count their are 2 very high end rookies
1 right below that
7 on the 3rd tier
25 on the last tier that are all more collectible than every player in this draft with the exception of 3 or 4 players.

So based on what you said their are 10 in this class and 35 in the double class. Good point bro.

2014 will be great but 2013 is total garbage. If you're busting cases you're dumb.
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Off the rip Kyrie and Lillard are on a whole other level than anyone in this draft.

Davis is not at Kyrie's level but he is also MUCH higher.

Kawhi, Faried, Klay, Drummond, MKG, Barnes, Beal are the next tier.

Last tier - All players that are collectible.

Kemba, Tobias, Kanter, Jonas, Thompson, Williams, Knight, Vucevic, Shumpert, Chandler Parsons, Donatas Motiejūnas, Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler, Isiah Thomas, Norris Cole, Jimmer, Marshon, Waiters, Robinson, Rivers, Sullinger, Lamb, Fournier, Jones, and Harkless.

So by my count their are 2 very high end rookies
1 right below that
7 on the 3rd tier
25 on the last tier that are all more collectible than every player in this draft with the exception of 3 or 4 players.

So based on what you said their are 10 in this class and 35 in the double class. Good point bro.

2014 will be great but 2013 is total garbage. If you're busting cases you're dumb.
Ok bro. You're also basing Kyrie sales off of 2 years of him playing. I said maybe 6 in this draft and maybe 10 in the double. Please read what I said, not what you wanted it to say. You are stating YOUR opinion and I stated MINE. Please don't call me dumb just because we disagree on something.
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I will continue to pick up Allen Iverson stuff
Does he have stuff in 2013-14? Thought this thread was about next years products?
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Ok bro. You're also basing Kyrie sales off of 2 years of him playing. I said maybe 6 in this draft and maybe 10 in the double. Please read what I said, not what you wanted it to say. You are stating YOUR opinion and I stated MINE. Please don't call me dumb just because we disagree on something.
I did read what you said. You said 6 players will sell well from the 2013 draft. You went on to say that maybe 10 from the double class sell well which is wrong. There aren't maybe 10 that sell well there are around 25 that sell very well and 10 others that are selling better than most that will sell from this draft. Where in the post did I call you dumb. You're wrong but that doesn't make you dumb.
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Off the rip Kyrie and Lillard are on a whole other level than anyone in this draft.

Davis is not at Kyrie's level but he is also MUCH higher.

Kawhi, Faried, Klay, Drummond, MKG, Barnes, Beal are the next tier.

Last tier - All players that are collectible.

Kemba, Tobias, Kanter, Jonas, Thompson, Williams, Knight, Vucevic, Shumpert, Chandler Parsons, Donatas Motiejūnas, Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler, Isiah Thomas, Norris Cole, Jimmer, Marshon, Waiters, Robinson, Rivers, Sullinger, Lamb, Fournier, Jones, and Harkless.

So by my count their are 2 very high end rookies
1 right below that
7 on the 3rd tier
25 on the last tier that are all more collectible than every player in this draft with the exception of 3 or 4 players.

So based on what you said their are 10 in this class and 35 in the double class. Good point bro.

2014 will be great but 2013 is total garbage. If you're busting cases you're dumb.
He didnt't call you dumb, read the bold.
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You said "if you're busting cases you're dumb". I thought that was directed at me. I agree with first 10 guys you listed including Kemba but I disagree about everyone else listed in that tier has selling better than the 6 guys I listed. Tobias blew up at the end of the season, if he plays well next year his prices will rise again, they have already tailed off significantly from where they were.
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This thread has been productive....
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I don't see how Norris Cole, Donatas Motiejūnas, Reggie Jackson, Isiah Thomas, Norris Cole, Jimmer, Marshon, Waiters, Robinson, Rivers, Sullinger, Lamb, Fournier, Joneswould sell better than this year top 6 RCs. Stat-wise, Rivers is one of the worst.
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idk this years product wasn't so great minus prizm type stuff and whats good every other year... and there is way too much of it, so yea, i'm gonna hope so guys as better than advertised and buy 13-14.
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All i know is that i will be going after the Sixers rookies i bust boxes for fun. so double class of rookies, one class of rookies or classless rookies - i do not care.
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I will be buying Tony Mitchell,
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I don't see how Norris Cole, Donatas Motiejūnas, Reggie Jackson, Isiah Thomas, Norris Cole, Jimmer, Marshon, Waiters, Robinson, Rivers, Sullinger, Lamb, Fournier, Joneswould sell better than this year top 6 RCs. Stat-wise, Rivers is one of the worst.
I said " and 10 others that are selling better than most that will sell from this draft." Meaning all of those players will sell better than the top 5 or 6 players from this draft. You need to take into consideration that these player will improve their games and the value of their cards will most likely increase.

Sullinger, Lamb, Fournier, Waiters will sell better than pretty much every player with the exception of 4 or 5 guys from the draft.

Guys like Alex Len will sell well initially but do you honestly think he will sell better than Jared Sullinger who will be a starter on the Celtics? Not happening.
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I said " and 10 others that are selling better than most that will sell from this draft." Meaning all of those players will sell better than the top 5 or 6 players from this draft. You need to take into consideration that these player will improve their games and the value of their cards will most likely increase.

Sullinger, Lamb, Fournier, Waiters will sell better than pretty much every player with the exception of 4 or 5 guys from the draft.

Guys like Alex Len will sell well initially but do you honestly think he will sell better than Jared Sullinger who will be a starter on the Celtics? Not happening.
Funny how you would bring only upside of 11-12 an 12-13 RCs while downside 13-14 RCs. At least for me, I still have not watched one NBA game from these 13-14 RCs. I can't talk if Alex Len will sell better than some late 1st round RC in 11-12 or 12-13.

I just know that, some of your "collectible" player autos are selling at $2. And I seriously think it is not that hard to beat that $2 mark with this year top 6.
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I said " and 10 others that are selling better than most that will sell from this draft." Meaning all of those players will sell better than the top 5 or 6 players from this draft. You need to take into consideration that these player will improve their games and the value of their cards will most likely increase.

Sullinger, Lamb, Fournier, Waiters will sell better than pretty much every player with the exception of 4 or 5 guys from the draft.

Guys like Alex Len will sell well initially but do you honestly think he will sell better than Jared Sullinger who will be a starter on the Celtics? Not happening.
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Terrible class, double rookie class, i honestly stoped collecting basketball because of this, strickly football for me
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Lol Jeremy Lamb not Doron Lamb.

I guess $200+ for a Sullinger is chump change for a guy that missed half the year for back surgery and was picked after the lottery.

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I mean $50 for a patch card is nothing for Fournier who barely played all year and tore it up at the end of the year. Oh ya and Iggy opted out guess his stuff is on the down swing.

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Also Ken Faried a late round rookie from 11-12 isn't too shabby. I guess Chandler Parsons and Isiaha Thomas from round 2 are bums. Iman Shumpert is worthless even though JR Smith is off the team and he will get huge minutes. Read up bro.
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