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Old 09-07-2013, 05:32 PM   #226 (permalink)
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Don't forget the Gold Proof versions which will add to the total.
Exactly what they did with NT. Sneaked more cards in there.

Cases were "sold out" yet some dealers were still able to order from Panini directly.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:45 PM   #227 (permalink)
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Are they doing those stupid gold proof cards in Flawless as well????
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:11 PM   #228 (permalink)
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I hope they do. Those proof cards are gnarly.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:39 PM   #229 (permalink)
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I don't get it. It looks exactly like NT. Panini being lazy. Not surprising.
I agree. It's NT 2.0
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:57 PM   #230 (permalink)
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It's pretty sweet if you hit a top card in this product and sell it for a cool grand, you still might not break even on the pack! Yikes!
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:05 PM   #231 (permalink)
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You had no problems with that in 2003 when UD released 30 products with Lebron autos in every single product known to mankind. Why the double standard?

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Im sure I missed some. All of which had Lebron autos
Firstly, that was his rookie year, fail comparison. Secondly, "I" had no problem with it?? I wasn't even back into the hobby for years after that so I couldn't have known or cared..!
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Ahh it's ok because ud did it. Rookie year? Good excuse

Ud made more products in 2003 than any other year in history. What excuse will You use now?

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Old 09-07-2013, 07:24 PM   #233 (permalink)
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Don't forget the Gold Proof versions which will add to the total.
Exactly what they did with NT. Sneaked more cards in there.

Cases were "sold out" yet some dealers were still able to order from Panini directly.
can you answer us how they get most of the au's oncard in such a limited time?
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:37 PM   #234 (permalink)
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Source....?
A good one

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Ahh it's ok because ud did it. Rookie year? Good excuse

Ud made more products in 2003 than any other year in history. What excuse will You use now?
How is that even a response to my reply?? Not what I said and still off base. Nice try.
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can you answer us how they get most of the au's oncard in such a limited time?
Do they promise no redemptions with this release?
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:23 PM   #237 (permalink)
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Firstly, that was his rookie year, fail comparison. Secondly, "I" had no problem with it?? I wasn't even back into the hobby for years after that so I couldn't have known or cared..!
So you weren't even in the hobby when UD, Topps, and Fleer were running the show? Yet you feel you can accurately judge Panini on the type of company they are? What can you be using to compare them to?
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So because UD did it and it was wrong, I guess its ok for Panini to do it and it will be ok?

Thats the motto that most criminals live by, everyone is doing it so lets join in.

Follow the positives and not the negatives.
Learn from others mistakes, it will make a better company.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:20 PM   #239 (permalink)
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Going to try some GB of it, at least if you miss, it doesn't hurt as bad.
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So because UD did it and it was wrong, I guess its ok for Panini to do it and it will be ok?

Thats the motto that most criminals live by, everyone is doing it so lets join in.

Follow the positives and not the negatives.
Learn from others mistakes, it will make a better company.
30 products is better than no products. I've never seen so many people adverse to choice
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Is this the first product from panini that says

Game worn

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Going to try some GB of it, at least if you miss, it doesn't hurt as bad.
pm sent.. im in!
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So you weren't even in the hobby when UD, Topps, and Fleer were running the show? Yet you feel you can accurately judge Panini on the type of company they are? What can you be using to compare them to?
Yes I was, but not the early 00's, though I do know a bit about those times, particularly the Fleer bankruptcy cards which plague the hobby. And this relates to Panini Flawless how..?
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Yes I was, but not the early 00's, though I do know a bit about those times, particularly the Fleer bankruptcy cards which plague the hobby. And this relates to Panini Flawless how..?
stop complaining

no reason to complain on this .

on card autos
game worn patches
Very limited
lillard on card
nice patches
if you can't afford it or do not want to spend a ton do a slot in a group break.
or just dont buy it .

Every product is not for everyone .

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Is this the first product from panini that says

Game worn
No way, there are tons of cards from Panini that states its game worn.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:15 PM   #246 (permalink)
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Angry clown stop complaining

no reason to complain on this .

on card autos
game worn patches
Very limited
lillard on card
nice patches
if you can't afford it or do not want to spend a ton do a slot in a group break.
or just dont buy it .

Every product is not for everyone .
FFS stop calling me that. And where am I complaining?
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No way, there are tons of cards from Panini that states its game worn.
probably first product that ALL jersey/patches are game worn... cause if you check tracy hackler's response when asked if jersey/patches are game worn, he responds "player worn"
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:26 PM   #248 (permalink)
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probably first product that ALL jersey/patches are game worn... cause if you check tracy hackler's response when asked if jersey/patches are game worn, he responds "player worn"
Oh, they change the terms so many times.

Will Panini bust a box of this?
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:31 PM   #249 (permalink)
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Most important question. Does this come with a free Kobe pack?
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:48 PM   #250 (permalink)
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My LCS called his distributor and got some dirt and was told the following ... Take it for what you want but I have no doubts what my LCS is telling me ... Now what distribution is telling him may be wrong ...

Can only get thru distribution. No allocation for Hobby Direct thus already being sold out for Hobby Direct gets order opps.

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MSRP is $1250 and not dealer cost. If your LCS is telling you that he has to pay $1250 his cost, they are either screwing you or being screwed by the distributor!
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