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Old 09-05-2013, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Flawless First Look: Panini America Sneaks a Peek at New High-End Basketball Set
Sep 5th 2013, 19:40, by Tracy Hackler


In the span of three or four meaningful, myth-dispelling Tweets yesterday afternoon, Panini America sent shock waves throughout the collectibles industry that still are reverberating more than 24 hours later. Just like that, rumors buzzing all over about Panini America a) landing Damian Lillard autographs and b) releasing a mysterious high-end 2012-13 NBA-licensed product ceased being rumors and became cold, hard facts.
We let news of Lillard’s first NBA-licensed certified autograph trading cards — which first hit yesterday in 2012-13 Innovation Basketball and will follow in 2012-13 Intrigue, 2012-13 Immaculate and 2012-13 Flawless — carry the day yesterday. Today, we’re turning our focus to the mysterious Flawless and the fantastic first specimens that have arrived back at Panini America HQ.

True story: The first on-card autographs signed for Flawless were penned by Lillard himself. Not a bad way to start building a product that will deliver seven autographs, two jumbo memorabilia cards and a diamond- or emerald-embedded card in every $1,250 pack. No card in the set will be numbered higher than 25 and there will be a maximum of 20 complete base sets available. Diamond-encrusted base cards will be numbered to 20, and will be paralleled by an emerald-embedded version numbered to five and a diamond-embedded 1/1 version.
We’ll have plenty more to flaunt on Flawless in the coming weeks right here on The Knight’s Lance. But for now, enjoy this fascinating first look anchored by the first on-card-signed, NBA-licensed trading cards of Lillard, the 2013 NBA Rookie of the Year.


Flawless First Look: Panini America Sneaks a Peek at New High-End Basketball Set | The Official Panini America Blog
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Looks very nice!
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks solid to me, but $1250 a pack is ridiculous.
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After all the hype and speculation....Im underwhelmed.
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No Jordan. No Lebron. No way in heck I'd pay 1250 for a pack.
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Not a bad way to start building a product that will deliver seven autographs, two jumbo memorabilia cards and a diamond- or emerald-embedded card in every $1,250 pack.
Wow....................
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Diamond or not, crusty cards can't be over a grand a pack. Or contain Jameer Nelson in any form.
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Not bad.. But at $1250 a pack? Ridiculous..

I'll definitely pick up singles, but I say 95 percent of people breaking won't even make $500 selling their hits.
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Same boring plain white designs and stingy on the foil. A $1250 product shouldn't have names like Mark Price and Jameer Nelson on the checklist.
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It's like National Treasures series two.
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Considering I have already made a sizable investment in NT, I am underwhelmed by these cards. I see more potential in Immaculate but I am waiting to see more cards before plunging in.
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Glad I didn't fall into the hype...I'm not that impressed either. Those Flawless Greats patch windows are way small...Agree, price point is too high for what's there....
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I actually like these. Nice patches and on card autographs... But $1250 a box? Hell no.
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Thought I would be buying some cases..but at $2500 a case....i'll wait on my Immaculate cases!!
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This is a really exciting product preview. Panini have acted upon many of the things that I've mentioned in the past such as using foil etching, foil edges around jersey/patch windows, and using more impressive/classy fonts.

There are some beautiful cards to look forward to.

However, it does frustrate me to see how much they copy Exquisite. For example:





These patch windows below are something a bit different:



When is Dennis Rodman going to learn how to write without causing the ink to be streaky? Bill Walton seems to have the same problem. Maybe it's just me who notices these things.



These are all gorgeous cards (infinitely nicer looking than Silhouettes, in my opinion):









Lots of great auto sets to look forward to in this product. It looks 10 x better than National Treasures. Well done Panini
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But guys....each box has a diamond or emerald in it

This is going to be a blood bath of epic proportions.
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Same boring plain white designs and stingy on the foil. A $1250 product shouldn't have names like Mark Price and Jameer Nelson on the checklist.
Mark Price's cards will sell for more on the secondary market than many of the 'better known' players, trust me
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I'll toss out a group break. I will not be joining, though.
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$1200 a pack? LOL holy shiet!


This looks sick though, IDK what everyone is complaining about (besides the price point)
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Mark Price's cards will sell for more on the secondary market than many of the 'better known' players, trust me
Yes, but Jameer Nelson is a joke.
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$1250 is crazy considering the majority of this looks close to NT. No logomen or crazy jumbo patches shown either like for the Immaculate preview.

I wonder how limited the print run will be?
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Yes, but Jameer Nelson is a joke.
I agree with you.

Marl Price and Jameer Nelson's hobby love is very different though....
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$1200 a pack? LOL holy shiet!


This looks sick though, IDK what everyone is complaining about (besides the price point)
It looks like NT and Signatures had a baby. There are some nice cards, but I know most people are going to be dropping $1250 and their best card is going to be a Larry Bird auto that sells for $300 Max. At the time of release.
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$1200 a pack? LOL holy shiet!


This looks sick though, IDK what everyone is complaining about (besides the price point)
Yeah this looks pretty damn amazing, but there is no way in hell it should cost $1200!

EDIT: I really wish they would just burn all of the Rockets jerseys from 95-03 and quit putting them in cards.
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$1250 a pack is highway robbery.

Let's say you get nice cards, sell everything for $600+ (average almost $100 a card - will not even happen), you still LOSE $750 on the pack! (after fees).

Unless each pack gets like 15-20 hits, it's not even close to being worth it.

Panini is trying to play us like fools.

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