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Old 10-16-2013, 04:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I heard the same thing...
That there is one distributor who has majority of all the Flawless case, making it "Rare-r"
There is no doubt IMO that Flawless price is being manipulated for that reason
I don't think it is "sold out"

I am sure Panini "wants to" make these two, it just means more money for them
Is it a distributor out of Florida
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:26 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I don't know the specific
HOw come Panini let this to happen?
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:26 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Its quite possible he mixed up Immaculate push back date with Flawless.

That said, if they push it back again then they damn sure better make some late stage additions. I.E. a Kobe jumbo patch (still curious as to why this isn't in the product), and quite possibly a Logoman set even if doesn't have many players, Auto or non-Auto. The longer they delay the more they will be criticized if there are any shortcomings upon release.
Actually was told there both getting pushed back again.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:31 PM   #29 (permalink)
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in BO it says
Immaculate Nov 8 and Flawless Oct 25
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2012-13 product, released after first 2013-14 product?

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Its quite possible he mixed up Immaculate push back date with Flawless.

That said, if they push it back again then they damn sure better make some late stage additions. I.E. a Kobe jumbo patch (still curious as to why this isn't in the product), and quite possibly a Logoman set even if doesn't have many players, Auto or non-Auto. The longer they delay the more they will be criticized if there are any shortcomings upon release.
As the collecting world anxiously awaits the arrival of Panini America’s powder-keg conclusion to the 2012-13 NBA collecting season (first with the release of Flawless Basketball next Friday followed a few weeks later by Immaculate Basketball), the product developments for those two releases keep getting better and better.
Late last week, Panini Authentic’s Brian Bayne traveled to Las Vegas for an extensive signing session with the incomparable Kobe Bryant, one of Panini America’s exclusive superstar spokesmen. In addition to autographing several new items for Panini Authentic, Bryant also added his priceless penmanship to every last one of his autographs slated for 2012-13 Immaculate Basketball.


This is from today. Either no one talks to each other at Panini or it's still 10/25.
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Immaculate Nov 8 and Flawless Oct 25
As of yesterday, a few reliable release calendars have moved back Immaculate to Nov 13 but none have moved Flawless from Oct25 as of yet.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I heard the same thing...
That there is one distributor who has majority of all the Flawless case, making it "Rare-r"
There is no doubt IMO that Flawless price is being manipulated for that reason
I don't think it is "sold out"

I am sure Panini "wants to" make these two, it just means more money for them
WAY more IMMACULATE currently around for sale than FLAWLESS.
I own some of both products at a CASE ratio of about 5 to 1.

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Boomer are you an "investor" ?
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:05 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Boomer are you an "investor" ?
I've taken a position on certain products over the past 25 years
some winners and some losers.
I happen to like both of these products
I do think at current price of $2300-2400 IMMACULATE is the better buy as more people will spend $500-600 on a box than they will at $1500 box.

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Old 10-16-2013, 06:57 PM   #36 (permalink)
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From the blog.......

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October 16, 2013 4:46 pm

Flawless releases next Friday, October 25 and our last 12/13 basketball product –
Immaculate will definitely release on 11/13


I don't want to twll you all I told you so, but









I told you so.
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timcardaway permalink
October 16, 2013 4:46 pm

Flawless releases next Friday, October 25 and our last 12/13 basketball product –
Immaculate will definitely release on 11/13


I don't want to twll you all I told you so, but









I told you so.
Good...case closed.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:55 PM   #38 (permalink)
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OK. Only a week til we know forsure
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OK. Only a week til we know forsure
It's 10/25.....etched in stone my friend.
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It's 10/25.....etched in stone my friend.
OK. My mistake.
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wow, when this case gets in, if i hit a okc card (DURANT) in my youtube break, im gonna poop myself!!!
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