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Old 11-16-2013, 09:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Opinions on 2nd year prizm basketball release

With all the noise around NT, Flawless, and Immaculate, I'm going to mix things up.

How do you guys feel about prizm that is set to release next month? They've added the purple die cut and 1/1 blacks as well as gold prizm autos /10?

Presale is $1080 per case and about $90 a box. Last year these started at about $70-80 per box and peaked at around 140-160 a box. This years draft class does have some decent rookies and I feel lile the 1/1 and gold autos are a great draw to this product.

Do you guys feel like the gold autos will hurt the value of the non auto golds or just surpass them in value?
I remember some of the kobe golds going for crazy amounts and i feel like a gold on card auto has some potential to be a monster pull in the $$1500-2000 range.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i havent looked into this yet but i feel it will be a solid product and will hold value but definitely gotta look to buy for under 90.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Any pics of the design yet?
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm not promoting for BO but I here is a link to the presale that I'm using as a reference.

2013/14 Panini Prizm Basketball Hobby 12 Box Case - $1,080.00 : Blowout Cards - Sports Cards and Trading Cards Wholesale Online Store

The sell sheet info has some initial pic and designs and it looks like an overall solid product. If they can get oncard autos and limit the redemptions, in my opinion it should be an awsome and fun filled break.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The gold prizms are still my favorite cards from this year. 2nd would be silo primes.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I will be buying some

Oladipo and mcw gold prizms will bring some nice coin
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
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for one thing i dont really know why this is $90 a box & hoops was like $95. prizm at least has chances for very expensive cards. but at $90 a box with this years rc class, and the fact that the golds wont be quite as much probably as last years, it will probably be a somewhat difficult box break. those purple /49 are probably going to be 1 per box, at most 2. so you have 3-4 regular prizm, 1 purple, 2 autos, so thats 7 total with the other 13 packs having base or an insert.

depends how much u like refractors, how much u like collecting base sets, how willing u are to probably lose 50% unless you list probably everything & spend the time doing that & get maybe 60-70% back, 300 cards in the set so that makes it a lot harder to get a good prizm, and you might not even complete 1 set in a case. golds will probably be 1-2 per case i think. i dont think theres any way it will go to 150 a box, that was done because of kyrie, davis, & the first year of golds. if it actually comes out in a month, mcw will probably not be selling nearly as high. the odds on a black 1/1 are probably like 1:3-5 cases at least, & you could likely get a low-end player with that high set size. so these are things you can consider.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I would love a target red parallel and walmart blue. This is the only set that should have multiple colors for that nice rainbow effect
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I WILL be buying a box or twelve

I am about to look for the checklist.... IVERSON better be in it.. -_-
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Since it was such a hit last year the odds that they over produce it this year are high.
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for one thing i dont really know why this is $90 a box & hoops was like $95. prizm at least has chances for very expensive cards. but at $90 a box with this years rc class, and the fact that the golds wont be quite as much probably as last years, it will probably be a somewhat difficult box break. those purple /49 are probably going to be 1 per box, at most 2. so you have 3-4 regular prizm, 1 purple, 2 autos, so thats 7 total with the other 13 packs having base or an insert.

depends how much u like refractors, how much u like collecting base sets, how willing u are to probably lose 50% unless you list probably everything & spend the time doing that & get maybe 60-70% back, 300 cards in the set so that makes it a lot harder to get a good prizm, and you might not even complete 1 set in a case. golds will probably be 1-2 per case i think. i dont think theres any way it will go to 150 a box, that was done because of kyrie, davis, & the first year of golds. if it actually comes out in a month, mcw will probably not be selling nearly as high. the odds on a black 1/1 are probably like 1:3-5 cases at least, & you could likely get a low-end player with that high set size. so these are things you can consider.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. The subsets should also be noted. But it is still a very limited product imo.

I can be wrong though. I thought preferred would be a hit (very limited about 3000 cases) but it has dipped with the recent releases of NT, Immaculate, and Flawless.
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for one thing i dont really know why this is $90 a box & hoops was like $95.
120 cards vs ~500.
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Here's my preliminary opinion on all of the Panini Basketball card releases for 2013-14: pass. Why waste money on this year's rookie class when 2014-15 will be loaded?
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Football 2013 prizm looked pretty bad. unneccesary die-cuts and bad looking autos, so I'm not too excited for it
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I would love a target red parallel and walmart blue. This is the only set that should have multiple colors for that nice rainbow effect
I am pretty sure they will. For hockey, they did red and red pulsars and blue and blue pulsars. For football, they did red pulsars and camo prizms, not sure what they did for Walmart.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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One of the reasons 2012 was so successful was that they made very little retail. That will not be the case this year. Also there will be blasters and racks.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:01 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i dunno about that, retail prizm got very hot at one point & was by far the most opened retail product at least on this messageboard. i think this year with the added retail blue, plus the returning green, retail will be better, or better for what it is, the product that doesnt have kyrie/davis/lillard/etc as rcs. but adding a blue will give it a couple more cards per box to chase. but also the 13-14 green will sell a little lower most likely than 12-13 greens, and blue's less than green maybe, but its still probably the best retail product unless something comes up that we dont know about right now.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:20 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Errrrr looks ugly to me
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I wonder what the 1/1 Kobe and Lebron will bring, will it be Prizm mania Round #2?
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Prizmania was bc of gold and if you hit the right player, them it could command some dollar

But then select came out and there was gold.

It depends how big the checklist is bc i am sure as with every panini product, something good always gets over produced 2nd time around, and if vet autos are more dominant aka eric murdock aka james robinson, will they show up in prizm?
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:31 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The product looks great to me nice looking cards again. And I think the gold auto #/10 will be big cards can't wait to see more previews.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:06 PM   #22 (permalink)
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i dont think the golds will be as big this year as it was last year

product will still be popular as people think of it as panini's topps chrome

one of the only products where you can chase a rainbow
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Anyone picking these up? What prices are fair for a case?
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I will try two boxes and see. I'm a sucker for shiny cards
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Here's my preliminary opinion on all of the Panini Basketball card releases for 2013-14: pass. Why waste money on this year's rookie class when 2014-15 will be loaded?
nobody is gonna skip a whole year of busting boxes if they like that, some guys from this class will still be allstars.
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