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John91C 01-05-2013 11:23 AM

Peter Panzerfaust
 
WOW!
[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/PETER-PANZERFAUST-1-CGC-9-8-VERY-RARE-HFT-VERY-POPULAR-NM-/110996228190]Peter Panzerfaust 1 CGC 9 8 Very RARE HFT Very Popular NM | eBay[/url]

I was able to pick up a CGC 9.8 for $140 about a month back! Extremely small print run (4814)!

Anyone following the series? I picked up the TPB and it's a good read and a new twist on Peter Pan!

skel1977 01-17-2013 09:56 AM

I think Im jumping on board now. Not because i have read the series but because of the potential. I think 1-8 had like 5k print run. Still no confirmation of a tv show. In fact one of the creatores had this to say. Seems like its still struggling but if it does blow up, I want to be in the middle of it.

[quote=Kurtis Wiebe][quote=HouseofComics.Com]Just read this thread from beginning to end last night. Really interesting to sort of see the two different arcs (regular sales and aftermarket sales) and great to have the author pop on at various times.

I have to say, I don't fully understand what's going on with circulation and threatening the cancellation of the book. Kurtis' comments make it sound like at 7000 circulation it's profitable and at 5000 it veers into labor of love territory and logically at 2000 copies or 1200 it could be costing them money.

I'm no expert, but from my reading of Dave Sim editorials in the 90s plus just generally being around comics and publishing, the way I understand it is that the trade sales are the key. Sim said that by issue 130 or so of Cerebus, the monthly wasn't selling enough to make it worth going forward...except for the trades (which he more or less pioneered). He said there wasn't one month since 1977 that he hadn't made money on Cerebus 1.

Add in some BBC money for Kurtis (not sure his agreement with the artist on stuff like that) and the artist being able to sell original art, and it seems like a more or less viable concern. Now maybe they are pulling out all kinds of behind the scenes stops to keep this going, but I would hope that with the first trade printed and money coming in from that, selling art, etc. they are going to be able to make it to at least the 25 issues and have a great finished story that they can make money on (mostly via trades) for years.

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You have to keep in mind a few things about the income of the book.

1) BBC TV show isn't official and we don't make anything unless it is. That could be years from now and we have to live off [i]something[/i] in the meantime.

2) At the current sales, I receive a cheque of $1500 per issue, sometimes a little bit more, sometimes a bit less. That amount is reduced by the page rate we pay our colourist and a percentage goes to our letterer. I won't go into the details, but at the end of both of those dediuctions, Tyler and I split the remainder.

3) We do make money from TPB's, but we aren't paid until six months after it's released, meaning we're doing the following five issues for very little money. See, this is what happened to Green Wake, my last series that I had to stop because Riley Rossmo wasn't making a dime. We didn't get the Volume 1 money until after we decided to end the series because we simply couldn't afford to go through the monthly singles to reach the collections.

I'm not trying to stretch the truth when I say we are doing this as a passion project. We really are. Yes, potential money could be coming down the pipeline, but since the first issue came out, Tyler has been making, essentially, $20/page. It takes him 3 weeks of every month to complete an issue and he has to live off something. He has a wife and two kids.

So, that's where Peter Panzerfaust is at right now. I'm very much hoping that all the recent publicity drives the sales up, but nothing's ever certain. Regardless, we will finish this series because it's something we HAVE to do.

And to answer the questions on print runs. I believe each issue sells around 4700 copies, so I'd imagine a print run of 5000 or so. [/quote]

John91C 01-25-2013 08:55 PM

Well an all-time high :eek:

[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/Peter-Panzerfaust-1-1st-Print-CGC-9-8-NM-MT-Image-Comics-RARE-/190786885547?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c6bc8d7ab&nma=true&si=BaSHuQB25up240NWbAHRzbs3z7k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557]Peter Panzerfaust 1 1st Print CGC 9 8 NM MT Image Comics RARE | eBay[/url]

jimssouvenirs 01-25-2013 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=John91C;4109957]Well an all-time high :eek:

[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/Peter-Panzerfaust-1-1st-Print-CGC-9-8-NM-MT-Image-Comics-RARE-/190786885547?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c6bc8d7ab&nma=true&si=BaSHuQB25up240NWbAHRzbs3z7k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557]Peter Panzerfaust 1 1st Print CGC 9 8 NM MT Image Comics RARE | eBay[/url][/QUOTE]

That one has been relisted... not sure if it was the exact same book though.

John91C 01-26-2013 10:47 AM

Go down to the to the descriptions in the body of the auction.

Certification Number: 0087133014
is from the $489.00 auction.

Certification Number: 0087133015
is from the $449.00 auction.

Cujobyte 01-28-2013 04:02 PM

Wow, Krighton over on the cgc boards sold this today. All I can write is WOW. [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/330865140982?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649]Peter Panzerfaust 1 2 CGC 9 8 RARE BBC TV Kurtis Wiebe Tyler Jenkins | eBay[/url]

DigsUT 01-28-2013 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=Cujobyte;4129191]Wow, Krighton over on the cgc boards sold this today. All I can write is WOW. [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/330865140982?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649]Peter Panzerfaust 1 2 CGC 9 8 RARE BBC TV Kurtis Wiebe Tyler Jenkins | eBay[/url][/QUOTE]

I am soooo glad I threw down on this book when I did. Story is great, print run is low and demand is ridiculous. If that show ever gets put on TV, it will only get better.

Cujobyte 01-28-2013 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=DigsUT;4129285]I am soooo glad I threw down on this book when I did. Story is great, print run is low and demand is ridiculous. If that show ever gets put on TV, it will only get better.[/QUOTE]

Right on! Yeah, I'm late to the party, only have 2nd prints of issue 1. And will most likely watch from the sidelines as these prices are interesting to say the least.

mb209 01-28-2013 06:10 PM

I'm kicking myself for not picking up Krightons PP#1 CGC SS with sketch before for only $115 shipped. It was the only SS at the time. I saw it on ebay sell for $55 to him so I didn't budge on the $115 price he offered me :(. This was back in July.

mhuhn23 01-29-2013 01:28 PM

For those keeping track the first preview of Peter Panzerfaust was in Morning Glories #14. Same preview as Green Wake #7 but MG14 hit stores 2 weeks prior to GW7.

I cleaned out the cheapies on Amazon :)

siro123 01-29-2013 01:35 PM

And in a month they will find the first appearance in another book that predates that one.
LOL. Thats the third time its happened now when will the fourth time happen ?

ratherunique 01-29-2013 01:36 PM

i got one of those mondo comics thinking it was the 1st appearance of peter panzerfast. are these mondos still worth holding on to?

mhuhn23 01-29-2013 01:49 PM

MG14 camem out November 16, 2011. Green Wake #7 was November 30th 2011. Mondo #1 was February 2012.

I think this article makes it pretty clear it is the 1st true appearance.

[url=http://www.imagecomics.com/news/117/PETER-PANZERFAUST-MAKES-A-GRAND-ENTRANCE]Image Comics | PETER PANZERFAUST MAKES A GRAND ENTRANCE[/url]

mhuhn23 01-29-2013 02:15 PM

2 cheap copies left

[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00679B9T4/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1359486670&sr=8-1&pi=SL75]Morning Glories #14:Amazon:Books[/url]

cobra 01-29-2013 03:45 PM

sorry...I started a thread not knowing it was already brought up here!

John91C 01-31-2013 06:24 PM

Just heard from Kurits Wiebe on cgc boards...he considers issue #8 the 1st Captain Hook appearance since that is the one where his hand is the hook!

He also said #9 was severely under ordered (because the spike didn't happen until after orders were placed for #9)...in other words...PICK UP ISSUE #9. He also went on to explain that they go into Captain Hook in issue #9!

Sounds like Issue #9 will be RED HOT! Releases on Feb. 13th! I know I'll be picking up all I can of this issue...just the cover looks awesome!

jcaleo 01-31-2013 06:58 PM

If anyone is interested. I am thinking of moving a set of 2-8 all first prints.
If interested a can get a photo. Looking for $170 shipped and I will include a #2b.
So set includes 1st print 2-8 and a 2B. Only condition issue is 5 which I would call VF. The rest are NM+

I would prefer to move these here for obvious reason...

cobra 01-31-2013 07:12 PM

[QUOTE=John91C;4153072]Just heard from Kurits Wiebe on cgc boards...he considers issue #8 the 1st Captain Hook appearance since that is the one where his hand is the hook!

He also said #9 was severely under ordered (because the spike didn't happen until after orders were placed for #9)...in other words...PICK UP ISSUE #9. He also went on to explain that they go into Captain Hook in issue #9!

Sounds like Issue #9 will be RED HOT! Releases on Feb. 13th! I know I'll be picking up all I can of this issue...just the cover looks awesome![/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info! I can't wait! I loaded up on #8. As mentioned on another thread this morning, I saw my LCS had #8 selling for $25!

TheNewGuy 01-31-2013 07:25 PM

Dang, I ordered 6 at a site for cover. Hopefully they come through.

I called a couple of LCSs and all of them were sold out of all issues of PP, there was this one store that had #6 for $9, #7 for $10 and #8 for $50. Crazy!

IndySportsCards 01-31-2013 11:08 PM

#8 going to a 2nd print!

[IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Peter-Panzerfaust-8-2nd-Ptg-Pre-Order-/00/s/NzMxWDQ3OA==/z/wPwAAMXQbXtRCwpP/$(KGrHqJHJEUFD)v1KgnNBRCwpPizRg~~60_3.JPG[/IMG]

Scrogg27 01-31-2013 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=IndySportsCards;4155433]#8 going to a 2nd print!

[IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Peter-Panzerfaust-8-2nd-Ptg-Pre-Order-/00/s/NzMxWDQ3OA==/z/wPwAAMXQbXtRCwpP/$(KGrHqJHJEUFD)v1KgnNBRCwpPizRg~~60_3.JPG[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I've been searching all night for some place to pre-order this, really want to make sure I don't miss out.

Did you guys see the massive lot of PP comics somebody has been hoarding on the Cgc forums :eek:
He just put up a post.
To lazy to post link..sorry.

kyleg40 02-01-2013 12:42 AM

They aren't even showing up yet online, I would say goto the lcs and ask em to pre-order for you..

ratherunique 02-01-2013 09:18 AM

ordered a copy of morning glories 14 on amazon wednesday and it came in the mail yesterday. must be the fastest order i ever received :)


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