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Single slot at about $20 first, $18 each additional, 526 spots available 23 62.16%
Dual slot $38.00, you get 2 picks, 263 spots available - 2 rounds snake format (1-263, 263-1) 14 37.84%
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Just for they guys planning to join CFB 11 - 5 cases 2010 BDPP/5 cases 2011 TC

The cards from CFB 9 should be arriving Friday (Saturday at the latest).

My goal is to post this break for approval on Saturday evening.

I already got the price cut straight from Chris (this is NOT the same thing as break approval) - we got a $425 price cut!

5 cases at $690 would be $3450. 5 cases of BDPP at $850 is $4250. 1 case of Marquee at $2060.

2010 BDPP - 263 spots
2011 TC - 263 spots: 220 base, 33 autos, 5 usa set (per case), 5 heritage lots (per case)

$9760/526 = $18.56 base slot price

$2.50 shipping + $1.00 supplies + $0.10 to cover Marquee shipping/supplies = $22.16

$22.16 + pp fees = $19.75 (call it an even $20.00)

$23.10 for first pick, $21.10 each additional pick. OR $44.20 each with 2 picks via snake draft?

PRICES WILL NOT CHANGE - we are locked in!

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SPECIAL MARQUEE BONUS GUARANTEE:

For every 10 spots, you may choose to:

A. Get 1 guaranteed Marquee hit/spot (of the 60). If you do so, these 10 spots are removed from the Marquee random (and slightly raising the odds for everyone else). Trading does not count.

B. Keep your spots in the marquee random with the odds of approximately 1.14 spots per 10 spots in the main draft. You could get none or multiple this way.

Before anyone freaks out, the people getting the guaranteed marquee spot are RAISING your chances of getting a marquee hit! Think it through, this is good for you!
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This is the second time I have posted a poll this week with a glaring typo in the title!

I think I am slowly getting dumber by the day.

BO has TC again - $725.

I just sent Pat an email about a price break - we might not get much on the TC because they cannot keep it on the shelves!

I also have a member with a Marquee case that he has preordered. We could add marquee to the break (the case is from BO) and it would only add a few dollars per spot...

We would just random all the hits against all the spot holders - no extra draft - just random.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Voted for single slot, might be in for 5 slots!
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Adding Marquee would be awesome!
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This is the second time I have posted a poll this week with a glaring typo in the title!

I think I am slowly getting dumber by the day.

BO has TC again - $725.

I just sent Pat an email about a price break - we might not get much on the TC because they cannot keep it on the shelves!

I also have a member with a Marquee case that he has preordered. We could add marquee to the break (the case is from BO) and it would only add a few dollars per spot...

We would just random all the hits against all the spot holders - no extra draft - just random.
That would be fantastic if we add Marquee!!!!!
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Actually put me down for a tentative 10 dual/20 single ...esp if we shift that Marquee over....
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Wait so we would draft, like we did that one with the Sterling case, for example:

1. Grahamgdogg--Bryce Harper Auto
2. Grahamgdogg--Marquee Pick #1
3. Grahamgdogg--Marguee Pick #2

And then random off the 60 (since there are 48 hits 12 base in Marquee) left over slots....

???

or would we just straight random the 60 Marquee slots...?

I like the first way.

BTW, the above example correctly assumes I'll be getting the top three slots....
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Would snake draft be put each product in a separate draft?
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Wait so we would draft, like we did that one with the Sterling case, for example:

1. Grahamgdogg--Bryce Harper Auto
2. Grahamgdogg--Marquee Pick #1
3. Grahamgdogg--Marguee Pick #2

And then random off the 60 (since there are 48 hits 12 base in Marquee) left over slots....

???

or would we just straight random the 60 Marquee slots...?

I like the first way.

BTW, the above example correctly assumes I'll be getting the top three slots....
Confused about the first example. How are you drafting Marquee then randoming hits?

The way I see it, we would player draft the BDPP and topps chrome. Then the 60 Marquee hits/base would be randomed amongst all slotholders. Those hits are assigned in chronological order rather than drafted.
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Confused about the first example. How are you drafting Marquee then randoming hits?

The way I see it, we would player draft the BDPP and topps chrome. Then the 60 Marquee hits/base would be randomed amongst all slotholders. Those hits are assigned in chronological order rather than drafted.
How will that work with selling slots then? Would it be revealed after the break so if you purchased that slot you get the Marquee slot, or does it go to the original person?
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526 spots is EPIC!!



can we say 3 week draft???????
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or would we just straight random the 60 Marquee slots...?

BTW, the above example correctly assumes I'll be getting the top three slots....
How it would work: you draft your player - you can have anyone not already drafted from either product. Your choice! You cannot draft a marquee pick.

After the cases are opened and all spots traded/sold, we would random the 526 spots - the top 60 (or so) get a marquee hit. Then we random the Marquee hits. If you are fifth in the marquee draft, you get the fifth hit in the marquee random.

The marquee random is separate from the player draft. We will take the final draft order and random that for marquee. Does that make sense?

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Would snake draft be put each product in a separate draft?
Nope. The #1 spot in the draft can pick any player spot from either product (not both). This draft takes place before the break.

After the break, we will random the draft order and the marquee hits. You might have the last spot in the player draft and get the best marquee hit. You might have the #1 spot in the player draft and not get a marquee card at all. (Or vice versa)

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The way I see it, we would player draft the BDPP and topps chrome. Then the 60 Marquee hits/base would be randomed amongst all slotholders. Those hits are assigned in chronological order rather than drafted.
Yep. Marquee is randomed.
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526 spots is EPIC!!



can we say 3 week draft???????
Oh crap, I didn't think of that. We need a solution.

Live draft? I am going to need a list a quick draft clock... I want to bust this a week from Monday. (I think that is the earliest I can do it.)

Suggestions please!

We could go live a few nights - that makes it go pretty fast.

Another idea is just to draft the first half and then random the last 263 picks... they are generally less desirable anyway...
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I already got the price cut straight from Chris (this is NOT the same thing as break approval) - we got a $425 price cut!

5 cases at $690 would be $3450. 5 cases of BDPP at $850 is $4250. 1 case of Marquee at $2060.

2010 BDPP - 263 spots
2011 TC - 263 spots: 220 base, 33 autos, 5 usa set (per case), 5 heritage lots (per case)

$9760/526 = $18.56 base slot price

$2.50 shipping + $1.00 supplies + $0.10 to cover Marquee shipping/supplies = $22.16

$22.16 + pp fees = $19.75 (call it an even $20.00)

$23.10 for first pick, $21.10 each additional pick. OR $44.20 each with 2 picks via snake draft?

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lets get this thing rolling, i am in for sure
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lets get this thing rolling, i am in for sure
Go ahead and reserve your spots. You will probably be safe to wait for it to go live, but my last 10 case break filled up in the discussion thread in hours!
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i'll start with 2 slots
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Also:
I think, 2 hour clock for first 200 picks

the rest we can do a live 2 min per pick clock / not a random please.

Pick 263 is worth more than pick 500 - once you random you lose that aspect.
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How it would work: you draft your player - you can have anyone not already drafted from either product. Your choice! You cannot draft a marquee pick.

After the cases are opened and all spots traded/sold, we would random the 526 spots - the top 60 (or so) get a marquee hit. Then we random the Marquee hits. If you are fifth in the marquee draft, you get the fifth hit in the marquee random.

The marquee random is separate from the player draft. We will take the final draft order and random that for marquee. Does that make sense?



Nope. The #1 spot in the draft can pick any player spot from either product (not both). This draft takes place before the break.

After the break, we will random the draft order and the marquee hits. You might have the last spot in the player draft and get the best marquee hit. You might have the #1 spot in the player draft and not get a marquee card at all. (Or vice versa)



Yep. Marquee is randomed.
I was thinking like this:

CFB 6 - 3 Cases '10 BDPP and 1 Case '10 Sterling - This break is AWESOME!

Where you drafted EITHER a player in BDPP (this time a player in Topps Chrome or the BDPP) or a slot in the Sterling Case (this time with Marquee).

And then, after the break, draft the Marquee case....like a regular hit draft....

I loved that
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After the cases are opened and all spots traded/sold, we would random the 526 spots - the top 60 (or so) get a marquee hit. Then we random the Marquee hits. If you are fifth in the marquee draft, you get the fifth hit in the marquee random.
So the Marquee would go 'double random.'

How about one random, where we decided which of the 526 slots get the 60 hits and in what order, then a draft?

Just spitballin', here....
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Not sure what you mean by snake draft. Do you get two draft picks for each slot (one for BDPP and one for TC) and the draft order is reverse for one of the other?

Nevermind. Just read the poll lol.

I'll take a dual slot.
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You can definitely put me down for a couple-two-tree spots for this.
Gave you 3 - you can always go down.

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Sounds like a plan . I'll take a couple slots.
Gave you 2.

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sounds good. i'm in for at least 5-7 spots.
Gave you the 7 for now.

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Im in for 3 slots regardless.
Got you

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I would be down for 2-3 slots regardless of what kind of format
Gave you 3.

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I'll take between $50-$100 worth of slots...
I gave you 4, ok?

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6 spots if its a single, 3 spots if its a double
6 spots, sir.

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Put me down for 3 or 6 depending on the choice
6 spots oh ye of the hot Pack Wars hand!

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Voted for single slot, might be in for 5 slots!
Got you.

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Also: I think, 2 hour clock for first 200 picks
Not if you want to break this month.

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the rest we can do a live 2 min per pick clock / not a random please.
You are underestimating the amount of work this would take for me to do it. Figure about 10 hours of straight live draft to do 263 picks. That may be ok for the participants, but not for me.

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Pick 263 is worth more than pick 500 - once you random you lose that aspect.
Marginally that is true. However, the real value in these later picks are the parallels - and there is no way of knowing anyway. If we can come up with a feasible method to draft all these picks, that's great - otherwise I think a second half random is the only remaining option.

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I was thinking like this: ...And then, after the break, draft the Marquee case....like a regular hit draft.... I loved that
Yes, but think about it, we would be adding another 60+ spots to the draft - that would be 600 spots!

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How about one random, where we decided which of the 526 slots get the 60 hits and in what order, then a draft?
The idea is to add an extra value to late picks. Think about it - now every pick - even those in the 500s are worth 1/10th of a marquee hit. If you want to sell your late picks, they are now more valuable!

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I'll take a dual slot.
It looks like the single slot option is winning 2 to 1. Do you want 2 of those?
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The idea is to add an extra value to late picks. Think about it - now every pick - even those in the 500s are worth 1/10th of a marquee hit. If you want to sell your late picks, they are now more valuable!

I think I misunderstood then--do you mean, take each of the hits and random them to all 500+ slots?

Or do you mean take the slots, random them, and then the top 60 will get a random Marquee hit?

What I was saying was that you could take those random top 60 slots (still giving every one of the 500+ a shot, originally) and then have a draft of the Marquee. Granted, that's probably a non-starter because it's more work for you. Forget I said anything

And the other way, I was saying i.e. draft Marquee slots, wouldn't add slots, we could just random the last 60 (be they Chrome players, BDPP players or Marquee hits) that didn't get picked. But yeah, that would also add a separate Marquee hit draft and I guess that's off the table...
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