2011 Topps Chrome Football - 2 Hobby Case Break - Hit Snake Draft

[addicted36]

Pick 3 your up!

[cromartie3145]

Originally Posted by addicted36

Pick 3 your up!

That's me, but do you know what cards are in this lot:

TITANS Case #1 Lot

And I am waiting to hear back from someone, but as soon as I do, I will make my selection.

[cromartie3145]

I will take the Andy Dalton Auto with the #3 pick. Thank you!

[jpitten]

cromartie there were not 8 missing hits, he made an error in figuring out the number of "hits" originally

[cromartie3145]

Originally Posted by jpitten

cromartie there were not 8 missing hits, he made an error in figuring out the number of "hits" originally

Ohhhhhh! My fault! Thanks for clearing that up!

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by cromartie3145

I will take the Andy Dalton Auto with the #3 pick. Thank you!

Nice choice

[pakman916]

Sorry guys, I should have included the refractors next to the team lots.

The Panthers Case#2 Lot had the blue Cam plus 4 Cam base rookies. I think the blue was valued at $40 or $50 and each base Cam is $5ish. Makes that lot a $70-$80 valued lot.

The Titans Case #1 Lot has the Jake Locker Gold refactor in it, plus 3-4 Jake Locker base.

The Panthers Case#1 Lot has the Cam Ref plus 4 Cam Base.

The Cowboys Case #1 lot has the Felix Jones Red Ref and Demarco Murray Base. (x4)

The Falcons Case #2 lot has the Matt Ryan Red Ref and Julio Jones Base (x4)

The Bowman Chrome Case #2 lot has the Cam Ref, plus all of the other cards. The set is missing 6 cards.

The 2 Bengals lots have Andy Dalton and AJ Green Base (x4). I think those cards are valued around $3-$4 each.

And so on and so on. As I mentioned, most Team lots had 3-5 of each player. More like 4 per player. This does not include refractors, but outside of the top 5 players, the refractors are negligible in terms of value.

Based on my research, here are the top rookies in order:

Cam Newton Panthers
Christian Ponder Vikings
Andy Dalton Bengals
Demarco Murray Cowboys
Mark Ingram Saints
Julio Jones Falcons
AJ Green Cincy
Ryan Mallet Patriots
Jake Locker Titans
Blaine Gabbert Jaguars

If you are wondering how I came up with this list...here's my secret. I did a search of completed listings on ebay. Sorted them by sold price from highest to lowest. Then I just went down the list and wrote the names in the order they were sold at. Towards the bottom of my list, it's a toss up since they sold for around the same prices. But the top of the list is pretty consistent. Let me know if you have any questions.

[pakman916]

Correction, Case #1 had the Cam Newton Bowman Chrome Ref /99. That means I have them flip flopped. I have corrected my default list. I also discovered, it should be higher up the draft list. I've corrected that as well.

[pakman916]

Guys, don't forget the draft clock starts in 6 minutes. 8PM Eastern on Saturday. I hope you guys are planning on making your picks tonight.

[oldgoldy97]

What is the time limit between picks?

[pakman916]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

What is the time limit between picks?

30 Minutes. If for some reason, we have too many no shows, I'm going to change the draft clock to a different night. This thread is a little quiet...it's making me nervous that people didn't get the memo.

[nacowboys]

Willing to sell the #8 pick for $45 Gift PM me thanks

[The700Level]

Originally Posted by pakman916

30 Minutes. If for some reason, we have too many no shows, I'm going to change the draft clock to a different night. This thread is a little quiet...it's making me nervous that people didn't get the memo.

Ready to go at Pick #5

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by pakman916

30 Minutes. If for some reason, we have too many no shows, I'm going to change the draft clock to a different night. This thread is a little quiet...it's making me nervous that people didn't get the memo.

It does seem too quiet around here and not just with this break. I'm getting minimal responses on a break I'm running, too. I think you've made it clear since the cases were broken as to when then draft would take place. Go with it tonight; fair warning was given. If people don't care enough to be around for it, t.s.

[pakman916]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

It does seem too quiet around here and not just with this break. I'm getting minimal responses on a break I'm running, too. I think you've made it clear since the cases were broken as to when then draft would take place. Go with it tonight; fair warning was given. If people don't care enough to be around for it, t.s.

Fair enough. I agree. Besides, based on my research, the top 20 picks are pretty solid. The top 10 might even make their money back!

I did find one more error on my default list. The Vikings lots [Case #1] should be higher up my draft board. I didn't factor in the Kyle Rudolph variation. It will move that pick from 32 to 18. And the reason it's high to begin with is Christian Ponder...surprisingly, his cards are selling well.

[pakman916]

fyi, to be fair to Cromartie, I am giving him an opportunity to change his pick due to the fact that I messed up my default list. The Bowman Chrome Lot has the Cam Newton /99 and the Titans lot has the Gold Jake Locker. If he's still okay with the Andy Dalton, that's fine, but I have to be fair to those that already picked. I doubt the first two would change their picks.

I will give him till 8:45. At which point I will move on and auto pick for hail24. Then it will be The700Level...and I know he's ready. followed by me and then hail24 again.

And I PM the next 5 or so people on the draft now, but it doesn't look like any of them are online.

[pakman916]

With the 4th pick in the draft, Hail24 autopicks Bowman Chrome Case #1 Lot.

The700Level is up next.

[pakman916]

by the way, I'm just seeing this for the first time. wtf?

[The700Level]

Pick #5 DeMarco Murray Auto

[pakman916]

With the 6th pick in the draft, pakman916 selects Torrey Smith Variation Ref Auto NO NUMBER.

For the PC...

Sending PM to Hail24.

[pakman916]

I just want to make one more clarification for everyone.

The "Lots" include ALL parallel Refractors (non-auto). That includes the black, sepia, blue, gold, red, crystal atomics and regular refractors. On top of that, it includes 3-5 base of each player. So when determining value, you have to take all of those things into consideration.

For example, the Panthers lot in Case #2. It included 4 Cam Newton Base cards. It also included 1 Cam Newton Blue Refractor. Finally, it included the other base cards for Steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart...etc. If you put the values all together, that Lot is valued somewhere in the $70-$90 range. It doesn't seem like much at first, but it was one of the better hits of the case.

Another example would be the Bowman Chrome Lot from Case #1. This lot was nearly a complete set. It was missing 6 cards. Similar lots sell for $10-$20. But if you include the Cam Newton Ref /99, that lot jumps up. The Cam Newton Ref /99 sells in the $50 range. Bringing the total value up to the $60-$70 range.

As mentioned, I didn't do this for all the team lots. Mainly because once you don't have the top 5 to 10 rookies, the card values drop drastically for the other rookies. Then it because a personal preference as to which team holds more value. Something I couldn't decide. The top 50 picks should be pretty accurate in terms of value, but the team lots may hold more value for player collectors or team collectors.

[pakman916]

With the 7th Pick of the draft, Hail24 autopicks TITANS Case #1 Lot.


nacowboys is up next.

[nacowboys]

I'll take the Mallett bowman chrome auto thanks

[offthecharts]

hello everyone.

[oldgoldy97]

It's been 40 minutes since the last pick.