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Old 04-15-2012, 09:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2011 Playoff National Treasures Football Hobby 4 Box Case - RANDOM HIT BREAK

Ok here's my thoughts

Configuration: 4 boxes per case. 1 pack per box . 8 cards per pack.

BOX BREAK
- At least 3 autographs
- At least 3 memorabilia cards
- 2 commons/legends or parallels

Given 4 Boxes per case:

Thats Likely 16 Autos, 16 mem and 8-16 Base (4/box). 32 Hit and one Base - if we hit a 1/1 base parallel thats profit for the base slot).

$1,779.90 / 33 = 53.90
3 for Ship and Supplies (2.25 for ship and .75 for card and mailing supplies)
56.90 subtotal
1.97 in fees (.3 + 1.029%)
58.87

Call is 59, then figure additional slots are 57

Break to be hosted on ustream the night case arrives (assuming around 9 pm EST unless group wants it earlier as this will allow the West coast to participate). Videos transferred over to youtube. Both accounts are iluvfish2. Cards will be scanned that night and cards should be shipped the following day (likely later that day so any trading that goes on for slots/hits you'll likely have about 16 hours). Only exception I can think of would be a Friday night break at which point I'll stay up and ship immediately.

thoughts/opinions/suggestions?

Slot Holders:
Shanehw (3) - paid 4/23 - feedback left
dtrainman (1)- Paid 4/24 - feedback left - cards received
justAbitOUTSIDE (2)- Paid 4/24 - feedback left
vinnyvegas (3) - paid 4/23 - feedback left
popmaz (1) - paid 4/25 - feedback left - cards received
mjlulich (2) - paid 4/24 - feedback left
Bwagzz (1) - paid 4/25 - feedback left
bayzhead (1) - paid 4/25 - feedback left
nadesico (2) - Paid 4/24 - feedback left
Andrew Jones (2) - paid 4/24 - feedback left - cards received
marauder03 (1) - paid 4/23 - feedback left - cards received
DizzyDSki (2) - paid 4/23 - feedback left - cards received
TheHeel (1) - - paid 4/23 - feedback left
OJMayo32 (2) - paid 4/25 - feedback left - cards received
Iamnoone (2) - paid via check 4/23 - feedback left - cards received
doubledribble (1) - paid 4/24 - feedback left - cards received
primecardz (1)- Paid 4/24 - feedback left
tradecardZ (2) - paid 4/25 - feedback left
Jenkinssssss (1)- Paid 4/24 - feedback left
FINS4LIFE (1)- Paid 4/24 - feedback left - cards received

Backup

fucgoof (1)
Dacubs (1)


we're at 33/33

1 - Andrew Jones
2 - Shanehw
3 - justAbitOUTSIDE
4 - DizzyDSki
5 - Shanehw
6 - FINS4LIFE
7 - vinnyvegas
8 - nadesico
9 - bayzhead
10 - mjlulich
11 - vinnyvegas
12 - dtrainman
13 - justAbitOUTSIDE
14 - marauder03
15 - doubledribble
16- Andrew Jones
17 - Bwagzz
18 - mjlulich
19 - nadesico
20 - marauder03
21 - Shanehw
22 - popmaz
23 - OJMayo32
24 - vinnyvegas
25 - DizzyDSki
26 - tradecardZ
27 -primecardz
28 - Iamnoone
29 - Iamnoone
30 - OJMayo32
31 - Jenkinssssss
32 - tradecardZ
33 - TheHeel


Box 1:

Tim Hightower Base 21/99 - DizzyDSki
Darren Mcfadden Base 57/99 - OJMayo32

1 - Ray Nitschke NFL Greatest Jersey 23/99 - Shanehw
2 - Daniel Thomas NFL Gear Triple Relic 84/99 - bayzhead
3 - Tom Brady NFL Greatest Jersey 47/99 - OJMayo32
4 - Da' Quan Bowers Century Gold Signatures Redemption - Iamnoone
5 - Zack Pianalto Rookie Signatures 59/99 - tradecardZ
6 - Terrell Pryor Rookie Signatures 11/99 - vinnyvegas
7 - Jordan Todman Rookie Patch Auto 4CL 23/99 - DizzyDSki
8 - Leonard Hankwerson Rookie Patch Auto 3CL 59/99 - marauder03

Tony Dorsett Century Legend Base 20/25 - tradecardZ
Mark Sanchez Century Base 15/25 - Iamnoone




Box 2

Aaron Rodgers Base 80/99 - marauder03
Jeremy Maclin Base 81/99 - dtrainman

9 - Ovie Mughelli Colossal Patch 2CL 04/49 - tradecardZ
10 - London Fletcher Colossal Jersey 20/99 - vinnyvegas
11 - Von Miller NFL Gear Dual Jersey 49/99 - justAbitOUTSIDE
12 - Dwayne Bowe Colossal Jersey 52/99 - DizzyDSki
13 - Cameron Heyward Rookie Signatures 11/99 - Shanehw
14 - Virgil Green Rookie Signatures 59/99 - Andrew Jones
15 - Greg Salas Century Rookie Signatures 08/25 - mjlulich
16 - Pen Pals Octo Auto - Green, Jones, Baldwin, Young, Smith, Little, Cobb, Pettis 07/15 - dtrainman

Jim Plunkett Legend Base 19/99 - DizzyDSki
Brandon Gibson Century Base 21/25 - vinnyvegas




Box 3

Fred Jackson Base 54/99 - Shanehw
Brandon Gibson Base 79/99 - Andrew Jones

17 - Drew Brees Century 2CL Patch Base 8/49 - nadesico
18 - REGGIE WHITE STARTER PATCH 1/2 - vinnyvegas
19 - Antrel Rolle Colossal Jersey 13/90 - nadesico
20 - Jonathan Baldwin NFL Gear Dual Jersey 94/99 - marauder03
21 - Knowshon Moreno Colossal Jersey 27/99 - Jenkinssssss
22 - LaQuan Williams Century Rookie Signature 49/49 - justAbitOUTSIDE
23 - Mark Carrier Century Jersey Auto 04/10 - primecardz
24 - Shane Vereen NFL Gear Dual Patch Auto 20/25 - Andrew Jones
25 - Kyle Rudolph Rookie Patch Auto 2CL 32/99 - mjlulich

Russ Grimm Ring of Honor Insert 15/99 - nadesico
Brandon Jacobs Century Base 22/25 (Damaged) - Shanehw




Box 4

Matt Ryan Base 86/99 - marauder03
Santana Moss Base 75/99 - mjlulich

26 - Steven Jackson Pro Bowl Materials Patch 2CL 10/49 - doubledribble
27 - Cam Newton NFL Gear Triple Patch 12/49 - Bwagzz
28 - Frank Gore Colossal Jersey 51/85 - popmaz
29 - Rahim Moore Rookie Signature 92/99 - TheHeel
30 - Jordan Cameron Rookie Signature 92/99 - Shanehw
31 - Kellen Winslow Hall of Fame Auto Inscribed "Air Coryell" 09/37 - FINS4LIFE
32 - Forrest Gregg Century Legend Jersey Auto 09/10 - Iamnoone
33 - Ryan Mallett Rookie Patch Auto 4CL 87/99 - OJMayo32

Fred Biletnikoff Legend Base 17/99 - Andrew Jones
Bobby Lane Emblems of the Hall Insert 59/99 - nadesico




RANDOM FOR HITS

There were 33 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

21 - Shanehw
9 - bayzhead
23 - OJMayo32
28 - Iamnoone
32 - tradecardZ
24 - vinnyvegas
25 - DizzyDSki
14 - marauder03
26 - tradecardZ
11 - vinnyvegas
3 - justAbitOUTSIDE
4 - DizzyDSki
5 - Shanehw
16- Andrew Jones
18 - mjlulich
12 - dtrainman
8 - nadesico
7 - vinnyvegas
19 - nadesico
20 - marauder03
31 - Jenkinssssss
13 - justAbitOUTSIDE
27 -primecardz
1 - Andrew Jones
10 - mjlulich
15 - doubledribble
17 - Bwagzz
22 - popmaz
33 - TheHeel
2 - Shanehw
6 - FINS4LIFE
29 - Iamnoone
30 - OJMayo32

Timestamp: 2012-04-26 13:16:20 UTC
You have randomized this list 3 times.

RANDOM FOR BASE:

There were 33 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

25 - DizzyDSki
23 - OJMayo32
26 - tradecardZ
29 - Iamnoone
14 - marauder03
12 - dtrainman
4 - DizzyDSki
24 - vinnyvegas
5 - Shanehw
16- Andrew Jones
8 - nadesico
21 - Shanehw
20 - marauder03
18 - mjlulich
1 - Andrew Jones
19 - nadesico
28 - Iamnoone
11 - vinnyvegas
15 - doubledribble
2 - Shanehw
32 - tradecardZ
9 - bayzhead
31 - Jenkinssssss
27 -primecardz
7 - vinnyvegas
10 - mjlulich
3 - justAbitOUTSIDE
30 - OJMayo32
22 - popmaz
13 - justAbitOUTSIDE
6 - FINS4LIFE
17 - Bwagzz
33 - TheHeel

Timestamp: 2012-04-28 01:00:42 UTC
You have randomized this list 3 times.
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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reak is now open. Format and slot pricing are within the guidelines and the host has provided verification for the age requirement. Please do your own due diligence and only join if you are comfortable with dealing with the host.
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I will take 2 slots to start. 5 and 21 please
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I will take 2 slots to start. 5 and 21 please
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I'll take one slot #12 please.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Nevermind good luck with the break!
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I'll take slot 13 please
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7, 11, 24 please. Thanks!

My only question is that it appears there are 32 hits per case. What to do with extra hits? Random to all?
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Slot 22 please
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Spot # 4 plz
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slots 10 and 18 please
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Spot # 4 plz
I got this PM before you posted so I gave 4 to bizmark31 - pm sent in case you've gotba 2nd preferred number.

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Hey can you please put me down for slots 4 and 6 please..thank you so much
Also had another question come up. I know NT has been having more hits than advertized. I had planned after the three relics and three autos the remaining cards would end up for end of break randoms. I assumed these would also be done via random.org (lists), but could do as a draft - anyone got a preference either way (or we could also add more slots to the break - which would lower slot prices). I'm learly of doing this as I'd rather do extra's as random's than overshoot and have to refund for not having a hit.

Edit # 1 @ 2013 - Was planning on having random's done 3 x before they are posted - assume no objections here (prerandom objections that is

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#17 will work! thanks
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I would say snake draft on the extra hits for the people who get bad picks, they at least get an extra hit that way.
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I would say snake draft on the extra hits for the people who get bad picks, they at least get an extra hit that way.
It isn't a hit draft so I'm not sure how that would work.

I might be in for a slot but I'd like to know how the hits/extra hits are going to be determined. It seems like there are 8 auto and/or memorabilia hits per box with the "box hit" falling in the last hit slot. If, say, the first 6 hits are part of the original random, that would leave most of the big hits for the second random. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I'm just trying to picture how the host envisions this working.
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It isn't a hit draft so I'm not sure how that would work.
I might be in for a slot but I'd like to know how the hits/extra hits are going to be determined. It seems like there are 8 auto and/or memorabilia hits per box with the "box hit" falling in the last hit slot. If, say, the first 6 hits are part of the original random, that would leave most of the big hits for the second random. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I'm just trying to picture how the host envisions this working.
Just noticed that. LOL
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spot #9 please
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Can I get #8 and #19. Thanks
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so whats going on with the extra hits then?

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I would say snake draft on the extra hits for the people who get bad picks, they at least get an extra hit that way.
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It isn't a hit draft so I'm not sure how that would work.

I might be in for a slot but I'd like to know how the hits/extra hits are going to be determined. It seems like there are 8 auto and/or memorabilia hits per box with the "box hit" falling in the last hit slot. If, say, the first 6 hits are part of the original random, that would leave most of the big hits for the second random. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I'm just trying to picture how the host envisions this working.
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so whats going on with the extra hits then?
Thats why I'm asking - which now is adding confusion and sorry about that, but would rather get everything figured out before hand. Lots of different ways to do this and if the format's not right guys wont join and as with everyone else trying to have fun with this and to maximize the profit/loss per slot so guys hopefully can have fun and get something back in return. Everyone will have to get something and some will win, hopefully few loose.

We can easily do this as a draft break. Looking at the breaks it does look like there's at least 8 hits per box some have 9, but I wouldnt want to over estimate it -so I think 8 slots per box could be used - if we're shorted (say a box has 7), then that last slot could be a base/parallel slot. If we get 32 hits (auto or mem) and there are still extra hits I'd say those should be snaked which helps even out the lesser hits. If we do get a full 32 hits, then likely half of the slot holders would be getting a base/insert card (looks like 4 per box @ 4 boxes would be 16). If we hit a 1/1 parallel they could always just take that as the base slot in the draft (assuming we only get 31 hits and the base would be the 32nd hit), otherwise we'd have a full case worth of stuff that would be drafted at any time (typical assumption here is that the base would go last).

I originally did this based off of whats stated on the product info page which is 6 hits and 2 base. We could just make this a 32 slot draft (likely just auto/mem hits). If we can figure this out might be kind of fun as well but possibility of maybe doing this break live on Saturday in Jackson at the card show (I'm a 2 day ship from Blowout). But just for the record - if say we go with 32 hits - slot prices would drop to 60.75 and 58.75 (dropping 16 bucks a slot)
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I like the idea of the random hit. We could 33 spots, 32 hits and 1 base slot, any extra hits could be randomed. Just my thoughts. Thanks.
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I like the idea of the random hit. We could 33 spots, 32 hits and 1 base slot, any extra hits could be randomed. Just my thoughts. Thanks.
I think this makes the most sense and would be in for a slot if that's what happens.
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I like the idea of the random hit. We could 33 spots, 32 hits and 1 base slot, any extra hits could be randomed. Just my thoughts. Thanks.
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I think this makes the most sense and would be in for a slot if that's what happens.
This works for me - what about everyone else?
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Random hit is good with me. If you add spots and lower price, i will take another slot
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I am in. I love me some NT!
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3,15,23 please! thx roger
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