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Default New type of Case Break: 2007 Bowman Draft Baseball PLAYER DRAFT: PLEASE READ

Hi guys, I am new to these forums, but not new at all to online dealing. A little background. I was on beckett prior to the meltdown and did over 500 deals over there. I then moved to Sports Card Freaks and did 160 deals there. I now frequent 2 other boards with about 50 combined deals on there. I also have 100% eBay feedback with over 2600+ total ratings. So I am just new to this site, but not new at all. I have done 5 group breaks so far, all being successes. My favorite one being a new one someone helped create, a PLAYER DRAFT.

I know I am new here, but I am well experienced and I can tell you, from the 2 of these player drafts I have done, people want more! They say it is much more fun than just getting a random team, here you can control who you want, and even take some risks by grabbing an AU player who may or may not be pulled, or take a base guy who is a sure bet.

This set is IDEAL for a Player Draft. A deep auto list with some nice names, but the base set is incredible with players like Heyward, Price, Moustakas, Bumgarner, Freeman, Laporta, etc!

Let me know if you guys would have interest in this! FYI, I filled this within 3 days each time I posted it on a much less active site (only about 1500 members compared to 6000 you guys have!)

This is a HUGE break. 1 case, and each PLAYER is a DRAFT PICK, 185 slots. I break the boxes live on UStream but also record them and then upload them straight to Youtube incase people couldn't watch the break.

I am going to copy paste the thread from the other boards that I have run this exact break on.

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Hello all, thanks to all that participated in the first 2007 BDP Player group break. I am going to do it again since it was a nice hit! Everyone loves drafts, and this is a group break with a PLAYER DRAFT. This one is for 2007 BOWMAN CHROME DRAFT. This checklist is amazing and is perfect for this style of break. There are 30 Autos, no signs of the future, and a deep checklist including guys like Heyward, Price, LaPorta, Moustakas, the list goes on.

I am going to set in the details in stone now after seeing how the last one went.
Instead of doing a team break, this will be a PLAYER break. And instead of buying specific players for an amount proportionate to their current perceived value, every player would cost the same amount (awesome, right?). After enough slots are sold at a small, affordable price, instead of randomly assigning teams like other breaks, I will have a mod do a random drawing for a draft order via random.org. A draft will then be held, with the participants of the break being able to select whatever player they want from the checklist when it is their turn to pick (as long as that player has not already been drafted), and then they will get whatever cards of that player are pulled from the case (You may choose to only want the Chromes and hits of you player, in which case you can tell me that after the break. You can even do it for certain picks as well.)

So when you buy a slot in this break, you are not buying a player (although you will inevitably get one of your own choosing, whether good or bad), you are buying a DRAFT PICK. The players you get are to be determined during the draft.

The draft time has not been determined yet, that depends on when the break is full and by a poll of the participants. I want to accommodate as much as I can. If you cannot make it, or would like to submit a pre- ranking list of your players that will be fine as well. You may send me an email to eljohann1@msn.com with these lists with the subject line: Blowout Group Break Player Pre Ranking. This will ensure that I get it and read it. If you are not going to be at the draft and do not send me a list, then I will select a player using my preranked list (so you will still get someone who should be picked at your pick and not the worst guy available)

The draft will be LIVE and will be done in a chat room. When the live draft starts, each person will have 2 minutes to pick.

If anyone would like to volunteer to help out with the break, I will need somebody (a Mod) to run the random.org selection for the slots. That will determine the actual draft order. Then I would like to have 1 or 2 guys who are at the draft (may or may not be participants) to help out keeping track of players selected (who is taken / who is left) and someone to keep track of who gets what player. I will also be keeping track, but it will be good to have a backup in case any problems arise.

There are a lot of slots up for grabs in this break. 65 Prospects (base), 45 prospects (futures), 30 AU (prospects), and 55 green MLB RC Logo players. This makes for 185 slots up for grabs (7 players with Base/AU, 3 players with GREEN / Futures). As a bonus, I will give away some slots in a contest run on the hobby talk section (amount of slots to be determined). The Future games are normally not sought after, but be advised, this set has GU Jerseys, GU Bases and GU Patches of the Future Game Players, so do not forget that! Please also note that some prospects have a base and an Autographed card, these will be ONE SLOT. Example: Kyle Lotzkar has a base and AU card, that is one slot! There are only a few of these types of players. 7 players have both. There are also 3 players with GREEN / FUTURE RCs; they are Joba, Justin Upton, and Cameron Maybin; they will also each be their own slot.

You may trade draft picks prior to the draft (there will be ample time for this) and then also trade players after the draft is over.

Arod Road to 500 cards will be randomly selected to be given to one of the participants. Head of the Class Dual AU will go to the player with the AUTO on TOP of the card (Ex HEYWARD GILMORE, Gilmore is on TOP, Gilmore gets the card)

I will need to be notified of any deals so that I can update my records.
If you have any questions, please post here or send me an email to eljohann1@msn.com or an IM to AdHeSiVeNeSs1.

The pricing structure will be as followed.

$7.00 per slot if you get 1-4 slots
$5.50 per slot if you get 5-9 slots
$5.00 per slot if you get 10+

I did a special offer last time and am going to do a special offer this time as well!

Buy 3 slots, get 1 free!
Buy 6 slots get 1 free!
Buy 8 slots get 1 free!
Buy 10 slots get 2 free!
Buy 15 slots get 3 slots free!
Buy 20 slots get 4 slots free!

1 slot--$7.00
2 slots--$14.00
3 slots--$21.00
4 slots--$28.00
5 slots--$27.50
6 slots--$33.00
7 slots--$38.50
8 slots--$44.00
9 slots--$49.50
10 slots--$50.00
11 slots--$55.00
12 slots--$60.00
13 slots--$65.00
14 slots--$70.00
15 slots--$75.00
And so on… add $5.00 per slot extra.


185 TOTAL SLOTS TO FILL / 185 FILLED

ILUVFISH2 - 24 (20, 4 free) PAID
GURU - 18 (15, 3 free) PAID
Vintage Collector - 24 (20, 4 free) PAID
Endthecurse - 12 (10, 2 free) PAID
Casebreaker - 4 (3, 1 free) PAID
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crr9381 - 4 (3, 1 free) PAID
bigsmoot2 - 12 (10, 2 free) PAID
FINS4LIFE - 12 (10, 2 free) PAID
Super32 - 4 (3, 1 free) PAID
caltek3 - 12 (10, 2 free) PAID
papiis01 - 4 (3, 1 free) PAID
CODYJM - 12 (10, 2 free) PAID
Kelleys1 - 12 (10, 2 free) PAID
schumat73 - 12 (10, 2free) PAID
Canucksfan1812 - 5 PAID
bigsmoot2x - 10 - PAID

ALL PAID UP!

Product Details

TWO BOWMAN BRANDS IN ONE PACK!

* Each pack contains 2 Rookies, 2 Draft Picks/Future Game Prospects, 2 Bowman Chrome and 1 Bowman Gold Parallel Card!

2007 Bowman Draft Picks & Prospects Baseball gives collectors the best of two worlds – the tradition of Bowman and the ever-popular Bowman Chrome! 2007 Bowman Draft Picks & Prospects Baseball features more than 110 Rookies, Draft Picks and Futures Game Prospects!

PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS:
* 2 Brands In 1 Pack - Bowman and Bowman Chrome!
* One Autographed Draft Pick Card Per Box!
* Exclusive Prospect Cards Found Only in Bowman!
* Exclusive Futures Game Prospect Relic Cards!

In every pack of 2007 Bowman Draft Picks & Prospects Baseball cards, you’ll receive:
* 2 Bowman Rookie Cards
* 1 Bowman Chrome Rookie Card
* 2 Bowman Prospect Cards
* 1 Bowman Chrome Prospect Card
* 1 Parallel Card

BOWMAN BASE CARDS - 55 subjects - 2 PER PACK!
* Rookies (54)
* Barry Bonds (1) -- Card # 237 will complete the 2007 Bowman Base Set!

BOWMAN CHROME BASE CARDS - 55 subjects - 1 PER PACK!
* Rookies (54)
* Barry Bonds (1)

AUTOGRAPHED CARDS - 208 total cards

Autographed Bowman Chrome Prospects (25) - 1 PER BOX!
* SuperFractor (25) - each is a 1 of 1! Hobby Only!
* Red Refractor (25) - sequentially #'d to 5 - Hobby Only!
* Orange Refractor (25) - New! Sequentially #'d to 25
* Gold Refractor (25) - sequentially #'d to 50
* Blue Refractor (25) - sequentially #'d to 150
* X-Fractor )25) - sequentially #'d to 225
* Refractor (25) - sequentially #'d to 500

Head of the Class Dual Autograph (2 subs/1 card) - Hobby Only! #'d to 174!
* SuperFractor (2) - Each is a 1 of 1!
* Gold Refractor (2) - sequentially #'d to 25
* Refractor (2) - sequentially #'d to 50

BOWMAN CHROME PARALLELS - 1155 total variations - 2 PER BOX!
* SuperFractor (165) - Hobby Only! Each is a 1 of 1!
* Red Refractor (165) - sequentially #'d to 5
* Orange Refractor (165 - sequentially #'d to 25
* Gold Refractor (165) - sequentially #'d to 50
* Blue Refractor (165) - sequentially #'d to 199
* X-Fractor (165) - sequentially #'d to 299
* Refractor (165)

BOWMAN PARALLELS - 495 total variations - 1 PER PACK!
* Red (165) - Hobby Only! Each is a 1 of 1!
* Blue (165) - sequentially #'d to 325!
* Gold (165)

BOWMAN INSERT CARDS - 110 subjects - 3 PER BOX!
* Draft Picks (65) - 2 Bowman Draft Picks/Prospects per pack!
* Futures Game Prospects (45)
- Futures Game Prospects Patch & Base Relics (45/20 subjects) - Hobby Only! Sequentially #'d to 99/75. 1 PER CASE!

BOWMAN CHROME INSERT CARDS - 110 subjects - 1 Bowman * Chrome Draft Pick/Prospect PER PACK!
* Draft Picks (65)
* Futures Game Prospects (45)

1 OF 1 PRINTING PLATES - 355 total subjects - HOBBY EXCLUSIVE! Each is a 1 of 1!
* Printing Plates (330)
* Autographed Prospect Printing Plates (25)

A-ROD ROAD TO 500 BOX LOADER - 50 total cards - HOBBY EXCLUSIVE! 2 CARDS PER PACK! 1 PACK PER BOX!
* Autographed Cards (1 subject, 25 cards)
* Insert Cards (1 subject, 25 cards)

COMBINED INSERTION RATE FOR AUTOGRAPHS/RELICS - INSERTED 1 PER BOX!
Checklist:
BDPP1 Cody Crowell
-BDPP2 Karl Bolt
-BDPP4 Tyler Mach
-BDPP5 Trevor Pippen
-BDPP8 Darin Mastroianni
-BDPP9 Ryan Zink
-BDPP10 Brandon Hamilton
-BDPP12 Freddie Freeman
-BDPP13 Nicholas Barnese
-BDPP15 Eric Eiland
-BDPP16 John Ely
-BDPP17 Oliver Marmol
-BDPP18 Eric Sogard
-BDPP19 Lars Davis
-BDPP20 Sam Runion
-BDPP21 Austin Gallagher
-BDPP22 Matt West
-BDPP23 Derek Norris
-BDPP24 Taylor Holiday
-BDPP25 Dustin Biell
-BDPP26 Julio Borbon
-BDPP27 Brant Rustich
-BDPP28 Andrew Lambo
-BDPP29 Cory Kluber
-BDPP31 Scott Carroll
-BDPP32 Danny Rams
-BDPP33 Thomas Eager
-BDPP34 Matt Dominguez
-BDPP35 Steven Souza
-BDPP36 Craig Heyer
-BDPP37 Michael Taylor
-BDPP38 Drew Bowman
-BDPP39 Frank Gailey
-BDPP40 Jeremy Hefner
-BDPP41 Reynaldo Navarro
-BDPP42 Daniel Descalso
-BDPP43 Leroy Hunt
-BDPP44 Jason Kiley
-BDPP45 Ryan Pope
-BDPP46 Josh Horton
-BDPP47 Jason Monti
-BDPP48 Richard Lucas
-BDPP49 Jonathan Lucroy
-BDPP50 Sean Doolittle
-BDPP51 Mike McDade
-BDPP52 Charlie Culberson
-BDPP53 Mike Moustakas
-BDPP54 Jason Heyward
-BDPP55 David Price
-BDPP56 Brad Mills
-BDPP57 John Tolisano
-BDPP58 Jarrod Parker
-BDPP59 Wendell Fairley
-BDPP60 Gary Gattis
-BDPP61 Madison Bumgarner
-BDPP63 Jake Smolinski
-BDPP64 Matt LaPorta
-BDPP65 Jackson Williams

Futures Game Prospects
-BDPP66 Pedro Beato
-BDPP67 Collin Balester
-BDPP68 Carlos Carrasco
-BDPP69 Clay Buchholz
-BDPP70 Emiliano Fruto
-BDPP72 Deolis Guerra
-BDPP73 Kevin Mulvey
-BDPP74 Franklin Morales
-BDPP75 Luke Hochevar
-BDPP76 Henry Sosa
-BDPP77 Clayton Kershaw
-BDPP78 Rich Thompson
-BDPP79 Chuck Lofgren
-BDPP80 Rick Vanden Hurk
-BDPP81 Mike Madsen
-BDPP82 Robinzon Diaz
-BDPP83 Jeff Niemann
-BDPP84 Max Ramirez
-BDPP85 Geovany Soto
-BDPP86 Elvis Andrus
-BDPP87 Bryan Anderson
-BDPP88 German Duran
-BDPP89 J.R. Towles
-BDPP90 Alcides Escobar
-BDPP91 Brian Bocock
-BDPP92 Chin-Lung Hu
-BDPP93 Adrian Cardenas
-BDPP94 Freddy Sandoval
-BDPP95 Chris Coghlan
-BDPP96 Craig Stansberry
-BDPP97 Brent Lillibridge
-BDPP98 Joey Votto
-BDPP99 Evan Longoria
-BDPP100 Wladimir Balentien
-BDPP101 Johnny Whittleman
-BDPP102 Gorkys Hernandez
-BDPP103 Jay Bruce
-BDPP104 Matt Tolbert
-BDPP105 Jacoby Ellsbury
-BDPP106 Michael Saunders
-BDPP108 Carlos Gonzalez
-BDPP109 Colby Rasmus

Autographed Cards
-BDPP111 Daniel Moskos
-BDPP112 Ross Detwiler
-BDPP113 Tim Alderson
-BDPP114 Beau Mills
-BDPP115 Devin Mesoraco
-BDPP117 Blake Beavan
-BDPP118 Peter Kozma
-BDPP119 Chris Withrow
-BDPP121 Nick Schmidt
-BDPP122 Michael Main
-BDPP123 Aaron Poreda
-BDPP124 James Simmons
-BDPP125 Ben Revere
-BDPP126 Joe Savery
-BDPP127 Jonathan Gilmore
-BDPP128 Todd Frazier
-BDPP129 Matt Mangini
-BDPP130 Casey Weathers
-BDPP131 Nick Noonan
-BDPP132 Kellen Kulbacki
-BDPP133 Michael Burgess
-BDPP134 Nick Hagadone
-BDPP135 Clayton Mortensen

Multiple Cards for 1 player (1 Slot)
Kyle Lotzkar (AU / Base)
Travis d'Arnaud (AU / Base)
Danny Payne (AU / Base)
Cory Luebke (AU / Base)
Corey Brown (AU / Base)
Ed Easley (AU / Base)
Justin Jackson (AU / Base)
Joba Chamberlain (GREEN / FUTURES)
Justin Upton (GREEN / FUTURES)
Cameron Maybin (GREEN / FUTURES)

237 Barry Bonds

Green MLB RC Logo
BDP1 Travis Buck
BDP2 Matt Chico
BDP4 Chase Wright
BDP5 Kevin Kouzmanoff
BDP6 John Danks
BDP7 Alejandro De Aza
BDP8 Jamie Vermilyea
BDP9 Jesus Flores
BDP10 Glen Perkins
BDP11 Tim Lincecum
BDP13 Brandon Morrow
BDP14 Mike Rabelo
BDP15 Alex Gordon
BDP16 Zack Segovia
BDP17 Jon Knott
BDP19 Danny Putnam
BDP20 Matt DeSalvo
BDP21 Fred Lewis
BDP22 Sean Gallagher
BDP23 Brandon Wood
BDP24 Dennis Dove
BDP25 Hunter Pence
BDP26 JarrodSaltalamacchia
BDP27 Ben Francisco
BDP28 Doug Slaten
BDP29 Tony Abreu
BDP30 Billy Butler
BDP31 Jesse Litsch
BDP32 Nate Schierholtz
BDP33 Jared Burton
BDP34 Matt Brown
BDP35 Dallas Braden
BDP36 Carlos Gomez
BDP37 Brian Stokes
BDP38 Kory Casto
BDP39 Mark McLemore
BDP40 Andy LaRoche
BDP41 Tyler Clippard
BDP42 Curtis Thigpen
BDP43 Yunel Escobar
BDP44 Andy Sonnanstine
BDP45 Felix Pie
BDP46 Homer Bailey
BDP47 Kyle Kendrick
BDP48 Angel Sanchez
BDP49 Philip Hughes
BDP50 Ryan Braun
BDP51 Kevin Slowey
BDP52 Brendan Ryan
BDP53 Yovani Gallardo
BDP54 Mark Reynolds
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Sounds Interesting! Good luck with it.

Put me down for the Buy 20 slots get 4 slots free slot.
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I am in for 15 w/3 free
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Hey guys, glad to see this posted! I am new to the format on this site, so do I mark you down officially right now ? Or do I wait till it is in "Active"?

Thanks and let me know!

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Mark us down now. If the break fills, it will officially get posted.
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Great! I will make sure to edit this then.

Here was the last break I just did last night for this type of break: 2007 Bowman Draft Case Break! GOLD!!!
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Sounds fun and I would be in for a chunk of spots, but first off, no one with less than a month on the site and a couple posts has ever been allowed to start a group break in the history of this site. Usually there is a dozen posts telling them to chill and gain credibility first. If an blowout vet. or even someone with a six month track record was doing this you could count me in, but after seeing your other case hit three gold auto's I am even more paranoid to hand over cash no matter how much experience you have on other sites. No offense, I just tell them how I see them.
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Sounds fun and I would be in for a chunk of spots, but first off, no one with less than a month on the site and a couple posts has ever been allowed to start a group break in the history of this site. Usually there is a dozen posts telling them to chill and gain credibility first. If an blowout vet. or even someone with a six month track record was doing this you could count me in, but after seeing your other case hit three gold auto's I am even more paranoid to hand over cash no matter how much experience you have on other sites. No offense, I just tell them how I see them.
I respect your decision. I read the rules and saw that people may not want to join because of this. I am fine with this. If you would like me to provide some references, I can do so. Just let me know. I was just as surprised with the gold in the last case, I wish they could have been a base guy like Heyward or Price though since the Autos aren't the best.

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BO has cases for around $575. You get 18 people to buy 10 slots, that's $900. Shipping and materials cost that much?
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Interesting Concept, I would take 20 slots with 4 free.

With 14 posts I wouldn't normally join your break but for $100 for a bunch of Rookies its worth a shot. Good Luck.

Why are there card numbers missing, did topps do that on purpose?

No #3, 6, 7, 11 etc,,,

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Johan.

It may be worth posting up your youtube and ustream user names. I personally see no harm in posting the location/thread of the last group break you hosted as well.
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Interesting Concept, I would take 20 slots with 4 free.

With 14 posts I wouldn't normally join your break but for $100 for a bunch of Rookies its worth a shot. Good Luck.

Why are there card numbers missing, did topps do that on purpose?

No #3, 6, 7, 11 etc,,,

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They are there listed under "MULTIPLE PLAYERS". Since they count as one slot, I listed them all together near the middle.
Players like Corey Brown, Kyle Lotzkar, etc have an AU + Base card.
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My Youtube Channel

This is my ustream link: Group Breaks on USTREAM: 10 box Case 2007 BDP . Baseball But I don't think you can see the videos there, but they are on Youtube.

Last Break Draft Thread + Scans

Original Signup Thread

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While I'm a little apprehensive, given your relative lack of history (on this site), I love this product... please mark me down for 10 slots (plus 2 free). Thanks.
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Hey guys, I have an appointment till about 1215, and then I will be back to answer Q's and update the thread.

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BO has cases for around $575. You get 18 people to buy 10 slots, that's $900. Shipping and materials cost that much?
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Please answer this question.
I do not end up with 900, in the past ones I have ended with considerably less due to the special offers. Shipping and paypal fees add up. I would be making some $$ but it isn't 300 or 400 bucks that you may think.

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Put me down for 3 slots with 1 free THanks!
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BO has cases for around $575. You get 18 people to buy 10 slots, that's $900. Shipping and materials cost that much?
Prior to me joining, I did the math as well. Here is what I looked at. 575 for the case (not including any youtube/group break discount) direct cost per slot was 3.11. Thats not including sleeves, toploads, or shipping supplies (nor any paypal fees). Not to say he may not refund some extra money either if Chris gives him a break on pricing.

And he was charging 5 per slot (and my direct slot is 4.17 as I've got 24 slots). But if you figure best case scenerio..8 guys buy 20 slots (24 each with the freebees..granted this can't work as 24*8 is 192, and there are only 185 slots), thats only 800 in, and figuring paypal and shipping fees (figuring most will be shipped via Priority as weight could be high) , I didnt figure its that bad given what could be pulled, and there will be some sorting/time involved (almost 1700 cards).
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This was the rule from Group Breaks section which I was referring to. I was not trying to be a jerk, but if group breaks for three day old members are going to be approved the rule should be changed(since this board is all about the rules anymore). Thanks for your consideration>

- If host is relatively new to the board, your break will probably not get approved as most members will not join a break unless they are familiar with the host. Please join in on discussions and participate in other breaks and try again when you get to know more members.
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I'm doing the math and it doesn't appear that there's quite that much margin in this. If you assume that the average member purchases 15 slots, that leaves 10 of us with 180 ((15+3)*10) total positions at a total cost of $750... add in 5 one-offs at $5 each and that's 185 slots for $775.

Sounds fair at face value... plus, I've been jonesing for a baseball prospect break

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Prior to me joining, I did the math as well. Here is what I looked at. 575 for the case (not including any youtube/group break discount) direct cost per slot was 3.11. Thats not including sleeves, toploads, or shipping supplies (nor any paypal fees). Not to say he may not refund some extra money either if Chris gives him a break on pricing.

And he was charging 5 per slot (and my direct slot is 4.17 as I've got 24 slots). But if you figure best case scenerio..8 guys buy 20 slots (24 each with the freebees..granted this can't work as 24*8 is 192, and there are only 185 slots), thats only 800 in, and figuring paypal and shipping fees (figuring most will be shipped via Priority as weight could be high) , I didnt figure its that bad given what could be pulled, and there will be some sorting/time involved (almost 1700 cards).
If people buy less than 10 slots, the price is higher = higher profit. Just buyer beware.
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This was the rule from Group Breaks section which I was referring to. I was not trying to be a jerk, but if group breaks for three day old members are going to be approved the rule should be changed(since this board is all about the rules anymore). Thanks for your consideration>

- If host is relatively new to the board, your break will probably not get approved as most members will not join a break unless they are familiar with the host. Please join in on discussions and participate in other breaks and try again when you get to know more members.
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Every group break is up to the members. I approved this after checking his ebay feedback and for someone to post up a group break, this is one of the first "newbies" to have posted one that not only did I find interesting, but had the majority of things spelled out in it, and I did send Tom a PM prior to posting to clarify a few things. Given this is all being done on ustream, and he requested someone outside of the break to do the random.org, I felt this was on the up and up.

I hope Johan Santana does decide to contribute over here. I think we've got a pretty good forum here and the members can contribute quite a bit at times (yes spam threads are still here, but even then with the new rules, they've been cut down quite a bit).

And when all else fails, I can assure you my payment will be backed by a cc as will a few others to minimize my risk.
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If people buy less than 10 slots, the price is higher = higher profit. Just buyer beware.
Yep.

Hey Johan, how about in the end you figure all the $ out, post the breakdown, and if your profit is more than $XX, you issue partial refunds to slot holders via PayPal to keep this legit?
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Yep.

Hey Johan, how about in the end you figure all the $ out, post the breakdown, and if your profit is more than $XX, you issue partial refunds to slot holders via PayPal to keep this legit?
Well to me if you don't like the price don't buy it. The guy is proposing something that involve some work I don't see why he should provide any kind of refund IF the situation turns out in his favor.
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