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Old 10-05-2012, 03:29 PM   #351 (permalink)
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I volunteer to be excluded from receiving wrappers. If two more people do the same then we will be down to the 60 participant/60 lots of wrappers ratio.
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This is true, but I was thinking, it would be 5 times the work for me. If we give just 12 lucky people the Wrappers then I only have to create 12 packages each break instead of 60 each. You see? That is a freaking nightmare.
Before God and Country, I officially rescind my offer previously stated above.

Instead I now demand the #1 pick and a bucket of chick-fil-a waffle fries smothered in grape jelly.
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This is true, but I was thinking, it would be 5 times the work for me. If we give just 12 lucky people the Wrappers then I only have to create 12 packages each break instead of 60 each. You see? That is a freaking nightmare.
To prevent houdini from committing suicide over packaging 60 packages instead of 12, I would go with 12 lucky winners.
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i like the idea of 12 lucky winners.

either way, i agree not to hold you responsibile for any wrappers that don't result in packs being sent by Topps.

edited my other comment out since i see the random list for the other 10 case break.
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Op is updated!

Only 1 5-pack per participant (you cannot win twice even if you land 1 & 2).

Mods, please random this list 3 times. Thank you.

1 FLMARLIN (from ooosh)
2 Dbott1234 (from Trimarchi)
3 raidersfan1983
4 Trouts2 (from nordy22)
5 dimer10
6 Dbott1234
7 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)
8
FLMARLIN (from Mgugs46)
9 houdini
10 VWBUS1978
11
trouts2 (from FLMARLIN)
12 Andrew Jones (from ooosh)
13
mgugs46 (from poipounda)
14 dthimesch
15 dimer10
16 BucksBandit (2)
17 raidersfan1983 (free)
18 Chadc13
19 Dbott1234 (from bluemarlin528)
20 houdini
21 shanehw
22 jarhoops (4)
23
poipounda (from Mgugs46)
24 neahcrow (from JusRelax)
25 jarhoops
26 hoopster3977
27 Orangejello727
28 Chadc13
29 biged_0
30 boardermartin (1)
31 shanehw (from nordy22)
32
Jarhoops (from uberfatty, bigsmoot2)
33 chrismgiroux (2)
34 houdini
35 dodgytrousers (1)
36 hoopster3977 (10)
37 hobbiewt
38 hoopster3977
39 Bruvydsb (1)
40 hester72598 (from Andrew Jones)
41 hmmdecloth
42 Reid n Owen (3)
43 Dbott1234
44 vintage collector
45
Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)
46 JusRelax (from
poipounda, Mgugs46)
47 dimer10
48 jsmitty7 (1)
49 chrismgiroux
50 Greenjdo
51 dthimesch (5)
52 reddeer
53 jarhoops (from JusRelax)
54 JohnAndrew (1)
55 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)

56 hoopster3977
57 Gator993
58 Andrew Jones
59
bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
60 hoopster3977
61 Karaandmelliesdaddy
62 Axeldog15 (2)
63 dizzyduff13
64 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from Anderdale)
65 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from Anderdale)
66 dimer10
67 Karaandmelliesdaddy
68 KaraAndMelliesDaddy (from Zoop, uberfatty)
69 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from jarhoops, KB81)
70 tmgrnzx9r
71 hoopster3977
72 vintage collector (3)
73 thatkidbilly
74 nbalinks (1)
75 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)

76 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from jarhoops)
77 dimer10
78
greenjdo (from nordy22, trouts2)
79 raidersfan1983
80 raidersfan1983
81 houdini
82 Andrew Jones
83 bbuckert24 (4)
84 FLMARLIN
85 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from bigsmoot2)
86 Reid n Owen
87 Karaandmelliesdaddy
88 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)

89 raidersfan1983
90 Greenjdo
91 uberfatty (from Zoop)
92 endthecurse (from bigbaseballboy)
93 tai (2)
94 straw44 (2)
95
greenjdo (from nordy22, shanehw)
96 bbuckert24
97 Andrew Jones
98 Ooosh (from Andrew Jones)
99 tmgrnzx9r (3)
100 hoopster3977
101 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)

102 bjk4343 (2)
103 biged_0
104 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)

105 theacox (from kkmill)
106 endthecurse (from jarhoops)
107 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)

108 raidersfan1983
109 theacox
110 straw44
111
Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy, Anderdale)
112 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)

113 biged_0 (3)
114 houdini
115
nordy22 (from Greenjdo)
116 uberfatty (from Jarhoops, Karaandmelliesdaddy)

117 poipounda (2)
118 endthecurse (from nordy22)
119 endthecurse (from nordy22, trouts2)
120 VWBUS1978 (1)
121 endthecurse (from jarhoops, KB81)
122 reddeer (2)
123 Gator993 (5)
124 nordy22 (from Greenjdo)

125 houdini
126 dthimesch (from JusRelax)
127 endthecurse (from jarhoops)
128 Chadc13
129 vintage collector
130 hobbiewt
131 hmmdecloth
132 sportsamerica (2)
133 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)

134 Andrew Jones
135 nordy22 (from shanehw)

136 neahcrow (from JusRelax, jarhoops)
137 Abracadaver (1)
138 hmmdecloth
139 endthecurse (from 12bizzles)
140 theacox (from dizzyduff13)
141 Ryo1549 (1)
142 Chadc13
143 Ooosh (from Andrew Jones)
144 raidersfan1983
145 hobbiewt
146 theacox (from dizzyduff13)

147 dimer10
148 raidersfan1983
149 foreverLFC
150 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)

151 houdini
152 Poonchka (1)
153 tmgrnzx9r
154 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)

155 theacox (from KaraAndMelliesDaddy, Zoop)
156 foreverLFC
157 Mgugs46
158 andrew jones (free)
159 Chadc13 (5)
160 hoopster3977
161 endthecurse (from jarhoops, otmack2o)
162 Greenjdo
163 theacox (2)
164 auburn35 (1)
165 FLMARLIN
166 raidersfan1983
167 houdini
168 nordy22 (from shanehw)

169 houdini
170 theacox (from kkmill)

171 Gator993
172
bigbaseballboy (from endthecurse, 12bizzles)
173 Gator993
174 Ooosh (from Andrew Jones)
175 theacox (from dizzyduff13)

176 THE700LEVEL
177 dimer10 (10)
178 endthecurse (1)
179 bluemarlin528
180 bjk4343
181 hmmdecloth (5)
182 Axeldog15
183 grmbuilder (1)
184 thatkidbilly (2)
185 theacox (from KaraAndMelliesDaddy)

186 tai
187 hoopster3977 (free)
188 mcdo0423 (1)
189 hoopster3977
190 hobbiewt (6)
191 nordy22
192 Gator993
193 Meyer9977 (2)
194 carl2001 (1)
195 hoopster3977
196 sportsamerica
197 theacox (from KaraAndMelliesDaddy)

198 nordy22 (from shanehw)
199 theacox (from foreverLFC)
200 raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, dthimesch)
201 raidersfan1983 (10)
202 bbuckert24
203 Mgugs46
204 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)

205 jarhoops (from otmack2o)
206 jarhoops (from otmack2o)
207 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
208 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)
209 hobbiewt
210 BucksBandit
211 Meyer9977
212 Jfray (auto)
213
raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, jarhoops)
214
raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, Reljac)
215
raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, dthimesch)
216
raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, dthimesch)
217 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)

218 FLMARLIN
219
raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, jarhoops, KB81)
220 meat (1)
221 Andrew Jones
222 dimer10 (free)
223 dimer10
224 neahcrow (from JusRelax)

225 hester72598 (from nhsportsguy)
226 tgittings (from Trimarchi)
227
neahcrow (from JusRelax, jarhoops)
228 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)

229 raidersfan1983
230 bbuckert24
231 tai
232 dimer10
233 hobbiewt
234 nordy22
235
neahcrow (from JusRelax, Reljac)
236 dimer10
237
neahcrow (from JusRelax, jarhoops, KB81)
238 Reid n Owen
239 houdini
240 FLMARLIN
241 nordy22 (from shanehw)

242 tai
243 hmmdecloth
244 Andrew Jones (10)
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There were 244 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
  1. 233 hobbiewt
  2. 53 jarhoops (from JusRelax)
  3. 242 tai
  4. 218 FLMARLIN
  5. 18 Chadc13
  6. 8 FLMARLIN (from Mgugs46)
  7. 94 straw44 (2)
  8. 58 Andrew Jones
  9. 235 neahcrow (from JusRelax, Reljac)
  10. 42 Reid n Owen (3)
  11. 205 jarhoops (from otmack2o)
  12. 66 dimer10
  13. 172 bigbaseballboy (from endthecurse, 12bizzles)
  14. 137 Abracadaver (1)
  15. 115 nordy22 (from Greenjdo)
  16. 207 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
  17. 51 dthimesch (5)
  18. 203 Mgugs46
  19. 138 hmmdecloth
  20. 71 hoopster3977
  21. 226 tgittings (from Trimarchi)
  22. 148 raidersfan1983
  23. 36 hoopster3977 (10)
  24. 152 Poonchka (1)
  25. 214 raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, Reljac)
  26. 96 bbuckert24
  27. 225 hester72598 (from nhsportsguy)
  28. 95 greenjdo (from nordy22, shanehw)
  29. 224 neahcrow (from JusRelax)
  30. 173 Gator993
  31. 90 Greenjdo
  32. 72 vintage collector (3)
  33. 191 nordy22
  34. 60 hoopster3977
  35. 170 theacox (from kkmill)
  36. 19 Dbott1234 (from bluemarlin528)
  37. 67 Karaandmelliesdaddy
  38. 48 jsmitty7 (1)
  39. 32 Jarhoops (from uberfatty, bigsmoot2)
  40. 84 FLMARLIN
  41. 217 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
  42. 237 neahcrow (from JusRelax, jarhoops, KB81)
  43. 204 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)
  44. 76 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from jarhoops)
  45. 111 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy, Anderdale)
  46. 208 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)
  47. 89 raidersfan1983
  48. 126 dthimesch (from JusRelax)
  49. 158 andrew jones (free)
  50. 211 Meyer9977
  51. 22 jarhoops (4)
  52. 130 hobbiewt
  53. 194 carl2001 (1)
  54. 23 poipounda (from Mgugs46)
  55. 108 raidersfan1983
  56. 231 tai
  57. 125 houdini
  58. 124 nordy22 (from Greenjdo)
  59. 103 biged_0
  60. 143 Ooosh (from Andrew Jones)
  61. 150 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)
  62. 190 hobbiewt (6)
  63. 160 hoopster3977
  64. 187 hoopster3977 (free)
  65. 40 hester72598 (from Andrew Jones)
  66. 81 houdini
  67. 215 raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, dthimesch)
  68. 82 Andrew Jones
  69. 52 reddeer
  70. 29 biged_0
  71. 119 endthecurse (from nordy22, trouts2)
  72. 102 bjk4343 (2)
  73. 132 sportsamerica (2)
  74. 230 bbuckert24
  75. 57 Gator993
  76. 50 Greenjdo
  77. 133 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
  78. 177 dimer10 (10)
  79. 184 thatkidbilly (2)
  80. 210 BucksBandit
  81. 188 mcdo0423 (1)
  82. 182 Axeldog15
  83. 200 raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, dthimesch)
  84. 171 Gator993
  85. 167 houdini
  86. 159 Chadc13 (5)
  87. 156 foreverLFC
  88. 56 hoopster3977
  89. 33 chrismgiroux (2)
  90. 232 dimer10
  91. 161 endthecurse (from jarhoops, otmack2o)
  92. 86 Reid n Owen
  93. 153 tmgrnzx9r
  94. 209 hobbiewt
  95. 45 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)
  96. 219 raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, jarhoops, KB81)
  97. 162 Greenjdo
  98. 105 theacox (from kkmill)
  99. 99 tmgrnzx9r (3)
  100. 220 meat (1)
  101. 59 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
  102. 195 hoopster3977
  103. 181 hmmdecloth (5)
  104. 227 neahcrow (from JusRelax, jarhoops)
  105. 142 Chadc13
  106. 176 THE700LEVEL
  107. 164 auburn35 (1)
  108. 122 reddeer (2)
  109. 128 Chadc13
  110. 168 nordy22 (from shanehw)
  111. 93 tai (2)
  112. 26 hoopster3977
  113. 165 FLMARLIN
  114. 169 houdini
  115. 179 bluemarlin528
  116. 196 sportsamerica
  117. 9 houdini
  118. 73 thatkidbilly
  119. 24 neahcrow (from JusRelax)
  120. 15 dimer10
  121. 80 raidersfan1983
  122. 63 dizzyduff13
  123. 229 raidersfan1983
  124. 234 nordy22
  125. 78 greenjdo (from nordy22, trouts2)
  126. 129 vintage collector
  127. 44 vintage collector
  128. 121 endthecurse (from jarhoops, KB81)
  129. 104 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
  130. 75 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
  131. 244 Andrew Jones (10)
  132. 180 bjk4343
  133. 43 Dbott1234
  134. 11 trouts2 (from FLMARLIN)
  135. 97 Andrew Jones
  136. 85 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from bigsmoot2)
  137. 28 Chadc13
  138. 149 foreverLFC
  139. 123 Gator993 (5)
  140. 25 jarhoops
  141. 118 endthecurse (from nordy22)
  142. 236 dimer10
  143. 166 raidersfan1983
  144. 183 grmbuilder (1)
  145. 16 BucksBandit (2)
  146. 201 raidersfan1983 (10)
  147. 106 endthecurse (from jarhoops)
  148. 30 boardermartin (1)
  149. 55 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)
  150. 216 raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, dthimesch)
  151. 34 houdini
  152. 141 Ryo1549 (1)
  153. 2 Dbott1234 (from Trimarchi)
  154. 202 bbuckert24
  155. 12 Andrew Jones (from ooosh)
  156. 49 chrismgiroux
  157. 87 Karaandmelliesdaddy
  158. 38 hoopster3977
  159. 114 houdini
  160. 154 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
  161. 20 houdini
  162. 79 raidersfan1983
  163. 228 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)
  164. 41 hmmdecloth
  165. 39 Bruvydsb (1)
  166. 222 dimer10 (free)
  167. 243 hmmdecloth
  168. 14 dthimesch
  169. 31 shanehw (from nordy22)
  170. 146 theacox (from dizzyduff13)
  171. 157 Mgugs46
  172. 238 Reid n Owen
  173. 117 poipounda (2)
  174. 1 FLMARLIN (from ooosh)
  175. 197 theacox (from KaraAndMelliesDaddy)
  176. 144 raidersfan1983
  177. 178 endthecurse (1)
  178. 109 theacox
  179. 135 nordy22 (from shanehw)
  180. 37 hobbiewt
  181. 69 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from jarhoops, KB81)
  182. 62 Axeldog15 (2)
  183. 101 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)
  184. 155 theacox (from KaraAndMelliesDaddy, Zoop)
  185. 54 JohnAndrew (1)
  186. 77 dimer10
  187. 6 Dbott1234
  188. 65 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from Anderdale)
  189. 151 houdini
  190. 139 endthecurse (from 12bizzles)
  191. 74 nbalinks (1)
  192. 134 Andrew Jones
  193. 7 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)
  194. 240 FLMARLIN
  195. 175 theacox (from dizzyduff13)
  196. 10 VWBUS1978
  197. 199 theacox (from foreverLFC)
  198. 198 nordy22 (from shanehw)
  199. 185 theacox (from KaraAndMelliesDaddy)
  200. 206 jarhoops (from otmack2o)
  201. 147 dimer10
  202. 223 dimer10
  203. 112 Jarhoops (from Karaandmelliesdaddy)
  204. 239 houdini
  205. 5 dimer10
  206. 83 bbuckert24 (4)
  207. 91 uberfatty (from Zoop)
  208. 17 raidersfan1983 (free)
  209. 120 VWBUS1978 (1)
  210. 116 uberfatty (from Jarhoops, Karaandmelliesdaddy)
  211. 88 bluemarlin528 (from Dbott1234)
  212. 3 raidersfan1983
  213. 46 JusRelax (from poipounda, Mgugs46)
  214. 192 Gator993
  215. 131 hmmdecloth
  216. 193 Meyer9977 (2)
  217. 113 biged_0 (3)
  218. 70 tmgrnzx9r
  219. 92 endthecurse (from bigbaseballboy)
  220. 136 neahcrow (from JusRelax, jarhoops)
  221. 186 tai
  222. 127 endthecurse (from jarhoops)
  223. 107 endthecurse (from Orangejello727)
  224. 68 KaraAndMelliesDaddy (from Zoop, uberfatty)
  225. 140 theacox (from dizzyduff13)
  226. 61 Karaandmelliesdaddy
  227. 100 hoopster3977
  228. 21 shanehw
  229. 212 Jfray (auto)
  230. 163 theacox (2)
  231. 98 Ooosh (from Andrew Jones)
  232. 110 straw44
  233. 47 dimer10
  234. 35 dodgytrousers (1)
  235. 189 hoopster3977
  236. 213 raidersfan1983 (from JusRelax, jarhoops)
  237. 27 Orangejello727
  238. 64 KaraandMelliesDaddy (from Anderdale)
  239. 13 mgugs46 (from poipounda)
  240. 221 Andrew Jones
  241. 174 Ooosh (from Andrew Jones)
  242. 145 hobbiewt
  243. 241 nordy22 (from shanehw)
  244. 4 Trouts2 (from nordy22)
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Soooooooo close!!! #13
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:26 PM   #358 (permalink)
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I like the way houdini announced, and I agree not to hold houdini responsibile for any wrappers that don't result in packs being sent by Topps. I'm willing to pay as well for the shipment, and a little extra for houdini if I win a wrapper package.
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Soooooooo close!!! #13
You made it - only one slot per member and FLMARLIN is in Top 12 twice.
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Soooooooo close!!! #13
I think he said nobody could receive more than 1 pack, so I think you are good.
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233 hobbiewt
53 jarhoops (from JusRelax)
242 tai
218 FLMARLIN
18 Chadc13
8 FLMARLIN (from Mgugs46)
94 straw44 (2)
58 Andrew Jones
235 neahcrow (from JusRelax, Reljac)
42 Reid n Owen (3)
205 jarhoops (from otmack2o)
66 dimer10
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Soooooooo close!!! #13
Nope, you are in because FLMarlin and jarhoops won twice but there is a 'You can't win twice' clause.
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Nope, you are in because FLMarlin and jarhoops won twice but there is a 'You can't win twice' clause.
Sooooo yay!
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Shouldn't it just have been 1 entry per person? I don't see why you would get more entries based on spots? I thought he said it was 60 something slots?
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Shouldn't it just have been 1 entry per person? I don't see why you would get more entries based on spots? I thought he said it was 60 something slots?

OUTRAGE!!!!

Actually, when Houdini says you can only win once, then it makes it exactly the same odds. So instead of cutting and pasting only the 60 individual participants it is easier and quicker to post the whole list and then state that you can only win once.
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Not true at all.

Take 2 people: 1 has 1 slot, 1 has 20 slots.

Guy with 1 slot has 1 chance to make it into top 12, guy with 20 slots has 20 chances.

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OUTRAGE!!!!

Actually, when Houdini says you can only win once, then it makes it exactly the same odds. So instead of cutting and pasting only the 60 individual participants it is easier and quicker to post the whole list and then state that you can only win once.
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:50 PM   #367 (permalink)
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Winners:

1 Abracadaver
2 Andrew Jones
3 bigbaseballboy
4 Chadc13
5 dimer10
6 FLMARLIN
7 hobbiewt
8 jarhoops
9 neahcrow
10 Reid n Owen
11 straw44
12 tai

Ok, I know that 24 wrappers fit in a normal envelope, but 180 wrappers would probably go better in a flat rate for size and speed, yes?

I am thinking $5.15 shipping, < 50 cents supplies, < 40 cents paypal fees, and a few bucks to pack 180 wrappers into separate bundles of 36 and mail them next day to Topps.

If that sounds fair to you, call it $10? (That would pay me about $48 - to open all 10 cases immediately and sort, bundle, and ship all wrappers next day. I will have to work through the night as I will be opening 20 cases.)

Or you could also sell these to anyone in the break instead.

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$10 shipping total for the packs?
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:56 PM   #369 (permalink)
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I cannot please everyone - even with a free added bonus that not a single person knew about when they woke up this morning.

Look at it this way: These wrappers are mine. They are NOT part of this break in any way shape or form. I am happy to give them away, but I will do so in the fairest way I know how.

About 20% of my participants will win, but I chose to base the random off of the current draft order because I thought that was the fairest way. Does it favor someone with 10 spots over someone with 1, yes. Does it favor someone who has recently bought extra spots over someone who sold out, yes. That is just the way it is going to be.
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$10 shipping total for the packs?
I am thinking $5.15 shipping, < 50 cents supplies, < 40 cents paypal fees, and a few bucks to pack 180 wrappers into separate bundles of 36 and mail them next day to Topps.

If that sounds fair to you, call it $10? (That would pay me about $48 - to open all 10 cases immediately and sort, bundle, and ship all wrappers next day. I will have to work through the night as I will be opening 20 cases.)

Or you could also sell these to anyone in the break instead.
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I cannot please everyone - even with a free added bonus that not a single person knew about when they woke up this morning.

Look at it this way: These wrappers are mine. They are NOT part of this break in any way shape or form. I am happy to give them away, but I will do so in the fairest way I know how.

About 20% of my participants will win, but I chose to base the random off of the current draft order because I thought that was the fairest way. Does it favor someone with 10 spots over someone with 1, yes. Does it favor someone who has recently bought extra spots over someone who sold out, yes. That is just the way it is going to be.
That's fine. I was just stating to the other guy that what he said was incorrect. I stated I am getting my own anyhow and that you could do whatever you wanted.
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Not true at all.

Take 2 people: 1 has 1 slot, 1 has 20 slots.

Guy with 1 slot has 1 chance to make it into top 12, guy with 20 slots has 20 chances.
That is true, but they can only win once, so the other 19 chances would be disregarded. While this may give a mathematical edge to people with more spots I see no reason to make someone spend ages cutting and pasting just to appease people that didn't get in the top 12. In fact I would go as far as saying that people that have more spots should have a better chance of getting a top spot.
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OUTRAGE!!!!

Actually, when Houdini says you can only win once, then it makes it exactly the same odds. So instead of cutting and pasting only the 60 individual participants it is easier and quicker to post the whole list and then state that you can only win once.
Your statement is not true and I'm not commenting on it again. If you don't understand you don't understand.

I'm not mad as I have 3 cases myself. I'll have plenty of wrappers for my 5 packs.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:09 PM   #374 (permalink)
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paypal is burning a hole in my pocket...should i use one of your previous links to pay or do you want to post/PM us on how to send payment for the wrappers?
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Not true at all.

Take 2 people: 1 has 1 slot, 1 has 20 slots.

Guy with 1 slot has 1 chance to make it into top 12, guy with 20 slots has 20 chances.
Didn't work for me.
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