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Old 11-13-2012, 05:05 PM   #351 (permalink)
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I like both ideas - the issue with the 2nd idea is that not everyone is in all 10 cases.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:08 PM   #352 (permalink)
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I like both ideas - the issue with the 2nd idea is that not everyone is in all 10 cases.
Well it's a way of rewarding those who paid more with more chances to get them. Someone like swingman who bought 20 slots should have a much better chance than someone who only bought 1 slot

Sorry RL kind of invading your thread here, so what are your thoughts??
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Well it's a way of rewarding those who paid more with more chances to get them. Someone like swingman who bought 20 slots should have a much better chance than someone who only bought 1 slot

Sorry RL kind of invading your thread here, so what are your thoughts??
John - why not random per case? top 5 and give the rest to NHS
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:13 PM   #354 (permalink)
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Well it's a way of rewarding those who paid more with more chances to get them. Someone like swingman who bought 20 slots should have a much better chance than someone who only bought 1 slot

Sorry RL kind of invading your thread here, so what are your thoughts??
My 2 cents....I need to buy low number picks in the case's I am no longer in
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:14 PM   #355 (permalink)
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John - why not random per case? top 5 and give the rest to NHS
That's what I suggested, look back at my first post. I probably could have been more clear about top 5 getting them... what I mean't for that to be taken as is top 5 in another random, for each case
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:53 PM   #356 (permalink)
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Well it's a way of rewarding those who paid more with more chances to get them. Someone like swingman who bought 20 slots should have a much better chance than someone who only bought 1 slot
I feel it should be done by how many slots were purchased. Just 1 random for a 10 cases all at once. So if 20 slots purchased, 20 slots in the random. 1 slot purchased, 1 slot in the random. Keep it simple.
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Thanks for getting this discussion going, John. Here are my thoughts:

1) Re-random each case, and the top 5 people (no duplicates per case) get 9 codes each. I would keep whatever's left.

2) Give everybody the same number of codes that they purchased slots for (i.e. jusrelax would get 1...hobbiewt would get 9...Swingman would get 20), for a total of 300, then re-random each case and give the top 2 people 5 each. I would keep whatever's left.

Those are my top 2 choices, but I'm open to more suggestions.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:02 PM   #358 (permalink)
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Either option is fine with me. My personal vote would go for option #1. I think for those who purchased between 1-5 slots the 1st option would give them a better chance at codes so that might be the way to go. Also you need at least 8 cards for a full lineup, and the only way to guarantee that for anyone who purchased less than 3 slots is option #1. I don't see much of a point in getting codes if won't even be able to field a full team (except for the slight chance of winning the blue wave redemption).

Figure if someone bought 1 slot they would get 1 code (which 1 code by itself is useless in this), and they have a 2 (top 2 people)/30 or 6% chance of getting 5 more codes. In option 1 if they bought 1 slot they would have a 5 (top 5 people)/30 or a 17% chance of getting 9 codes (a full lineup). I think that should give everyone a good perspective
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Why is this so complicated? 300 slots, randomed once, by how many redemption slots?
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I like option 2. reward those that bought in to the break with more spots.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:32 PM   #361 (permalink)
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I like option 2. reward those that bought in to the break with more spots.
Personally I think option 1 does. I own 10 slots as well, in option 2 you'd be guaranteed 10 slots and then have a 2/30 chance in each case of getting just 5 more. With option 1 you dont have any guarantees but if you're in every case you have a 5/30 chance in each one of getting 9 codes. Better chance of hitting it big with the 1st option, especially if you have 20 slots. I'd say option 1 is a win win for all kinds of buyers... But my vote only counts for 1
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Why is this so complicated? 300 slots, randomed once, by how many redemption slots?
Not sure what you mean, but under no circumstances will I be inputting, sorting, and sending that many codes/PM's to people. Sorry to be blunt, but that is entirely too much effort.
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I vote for whatever is easiest for you. As far as I am concerned its just gravy.
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I vote for whatever is easiest for you. As far as I am concerned its just gravy.
+1 Whatever we do is good with me.
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Ok, I need to get up about 2 hours before sunrise tomorrow, so I'm hitting the sack.

Here is what I think I'm going to do:

1) Random all 10 cases again;
2) Top 4 names (no duplicates in each case) get 10 codes (400 codes);
3) Random the names of people that didn't get codes, and the top 5 people get 10 codes (50 codes);
this is where it may get confusing
4) (Should have 30 codes left) If any of the 30th pick people in any case did not get a lot of 10 codes, those people will be put into a random to receive a lot of 10 codes;
5) I'd like to hang on to the rest as compensation.

Feel free to discuss, but the only way I'm not going to go this route is if someone has a VERY strong reason and argument against it, and proposes an equally fair plan.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:40 PM   #366 (permalink)
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Sounds like a great plan to me, well thought out Ryan!

Also might help to place a rule that if you're gonna allow trading of the code cards that each person must keep at least 1-2 codes in their possession, just in case we get shorted from the odds with them so that it doesn't create a chaos of tracking down the traded ones... Topps first year doing this with bowman, something tells me to expect some flaws
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:43 PM   #367 (permalink)
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1 for 1 slot
3 for 2 slots
4 for 3 slots
6 for 4 slots
7 for 5 slots
9 for 6 slots
10 for 7 slots
12 for 8 slots
13 for 9 slots
15 for 10 slots
30 for 20 slots

random the left overs (bundles or singles)
oh and based on prerandom numbers
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Ok, I need to get up about 2 hours before sunrise tomorrow, so I'm hitting the sack.

Here is what I think I'm going to do:

1) Random all 10 cases again;
2) Top 4 names (no duplicates in each case) get 10 codes (400 codes);
3) Random the names of people that didn't get codes, and the top 5 people get 10 codes (50 codes);
this is where it may get confusing
4) (Should have 30 codes left) If any of the 30th pick people in any case did not get a lot of 10 codes, those people will be put into a random to receive a lot of 10 codes;
5) I'd like to hang on to the rest as compensation.

Feel free to discuss, but the only way I'm not going to go this route is if someone has a VERY strong reason and argument against it, and proposes an equally fair plan.
sounds good.
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Stole this from another thread, but figured I would share it here.

up on their facebook page as well as the rest of the checklist...



BOWMAN CHROME AUTO PROSPECTS
Albert Almora
Austin Aune
Andrew Heaney
Addison Russell
Brian Johnson
Bruce Maxwell
Courtney Hawkins
Corey Seager
Chris Stratton
David Dahl
D.J. Davis
Deven Marrero
Gavin Cecchini
Joey Gallo
James Ramsey
Keon Barnum
Kevin Gausman
Kevin Plawecki
Kyle Zimmer
Lewis Brinson
Lucas Sims
Max Fried
Mitch Haniger
Mitch Nay
Marcus Stroman
Matthew Smoral
Michael Wacha
Mike Zunino
Nolan Fontana
Nick Travieso
Nick Williams
Paul Blackburn
Pat Light
Richie Shaffer
Steve Bean
Stryker Trahan
Shane Watson
Ty Hensley
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:44 AM   #370 (permalink)
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Let the fun begin, at first glance I'm pretty darn happy with it. Surprised with a few key additions that I love
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:07 PM   #371 (permalink)
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For your drafting pleasure...

Player Team Position Age Pick
Addison Russell A's SS 18 11th overall
Bruce Maxwell A's C 22 62nd overall
Nolan Fontana Astros SS 21 61st overall
D.J. Davis Blue Jays OF 18 17th overall
Mitch Nay Blue Jays 3B 19 58th overall
Marcus Stroman Blue Jays SP 21 22nd overall
Matthew Smoral Blue Jays SP 18 50th overall
Lucas Sims Braves SP 18 21st overall
Mitch Haniger Brewers OF 22 38th overall
Tyrone Taylor Brewers OF 18 92nd overall
James Ramsey Cardinals OF 23 23rd overall
Michael Wacha Cardinals SP 21 19th overall
Steve Bean Cardinals C 18 59th overall
Albert Almora Cubs OF 18 6th overall
Paul Blackburn Cubs SP 18 56th overall
Stryker Trahan Diamondbacks C 18 26th overall
Corey Seager Dodgers 3B 18 18th overall
Chris Stratton Giants SP 22 20th overall
Tyler Naquin Indians OF 21 15th overall
Mike Zunino Mariners C 21 3rd overall
Andrew Heaney Marlins SP 21 9th overall
Gavin Cecchini Mets SS 19 12th overall
Kevin Plawecki Mets C 21 35th overall
Kevin Gausman Orioles SP 21 4th overall
Max Fried Padres SP 18 7th overall
Shane Watson Phillies SP 18 40th overall
Joey Gallo Rangers 3B 19 39th overall
Lewis Brinson Rangers OF 18 29th overall
Nick Williams Rangers OF 18 93rd overall
Richie Shaffer Rays 3B 21 25th overall
Brian Johnson Red Sox SP 22 31st overall
Deven Marrero Red Sox SS 22 24th overall
Pat Light Red Sox SP 21 37th overall
Nick Travieso Reds SP 18 14th overall
David Dahl Rockies OF 18 10th overall
Kyle Zimmer Royals SP 21 5th overall
Courtney Hawkins White Sox OF 19 13th overall
Keon Barnum White Sox 1B 19 48th overall
Austin Aune Yankees SS 19 89th overall
Ty Hensley Yankees SP 18 30th overall
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I'll be pre-ranking the draft order tonight, and the draft will officially start Friday 8pm EST.
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I'll be pre-ranking the draft order tonight, and the draft will officially start Friday 8pm EST.
i think monday would be better for offical start time
gives us time to go over the base checklist too
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i think monday would be better for offical start time
gives us time to go over the base checklist too
OK that's fine. There's no rush - it should only take 2 days to draft.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:29 PM   #375 (permalink)
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Yeah I was going to recommend Sunday night as the perfect time to start it.

My calculations have 25 teams with autos, plus the Nats having Harper with a RC auto making it 26 teams. Will update once I figure out who doesn't...

Teams that do not have autos- PIT, DET, MIN (Buxton Aflac autos), LAA
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