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Option 1 - 140 Hit Slots in Break and Randomize Base 7 46.67%
Option 2 - 160 Hits Slots in Break - 140 Hits and 20 Base 3 20.00%
Option 3 - 140 Hits in Break - Base Sold Off 2 13.33%
Other - Please vote here and post your idea 3 20.00%
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Discussion Thread - ITG Motown Madness - With EXPO Twist

looking for some input/discussion on this before I post up the actual thread just to try and eliminate some confusion on this.

2012/13 In The Game ITG Motown Madness Hockey 20 Box Case - $1,720.00 : Blowout Cards - Sports Cards and Trading Cards Wholesale Online Store

Per Box - PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS:
- 2 Authentic Game-Used Memorabilia Cards per box
- 4 Autograph Cards per box
- 5 Premium Base Cards per box
- 1 Patch of Honor Insert Card per box

I see this three ways – but open to other options:

7 hits with randomized base

7 hits (auto/mem) and one Base/Insert box per slot.

7 Hits with a reduced slot price as I'd just buy the base lots from all the cases at 10 a box ($2 a card across the board does include red and golds - I assume a full case will get me at least a full base set)

Below is projected pricing breakdown on the breaks

Option 1 - Just Hits with Randomized Base

1720 a case
140 slots (7 hits and 20 boxes)
12.29 Direct Slot Cost
0.78 for supplies (sleeves, toploads, padded mailer and shipping label)
1.69 to ship
0.74 Paypal Fees
15.50 Subtotal

15.50 for the first slot. 14.00 for additional slots. Everyone gets a hit and a 71.4% Chance you get a base card.

Option # 2 - 7 Hits and 1 Base Slot Per Box

1720 a case
160 slots (7 hits and 1 Base Slot per box and 20 boxes)
10.75 Direct Slot Cost
0.78 for supplies (sleeves, toploads, padded mailer and shipping label)
1.69 to ship
0.61 in Paypal Fees
13.91 Subtotal

Call it 14.00 for 1st slot - 12.50 for additional slots. 12.5% chance someone gets the base slot.

Option # 3 - 7 Slots per Box with Base being sold

1720 a case
-200 for Base
1520 Subtotal
140 slots (7 hits and 20 boxes)
10.86 Direct Slot Cost
0.78 for supplies (sleeves, toploads, padded mailer and shipping label)
1.69 to ship
0.70 in Paypal Fees
14.03 Subtotal

Call it 14.00 for 1st slot - 12.50 for additional slots. Looks like same price as Option 2 but everyone gets either an auto or relic (keeping in mind the Ring of Honors are Manufactured but think they'll look great).

Now more on the twist.

Per ITG's release all boxes opened at the show will get 1 Show Stamped Relic Card. Once format is selected we can figure out how many slots will come from a box. If you buy any factor of that number of slots you’d get one of the Promo Cards. For example I'm going with a break that has 7 slots. So if you buy 21 slots you'd get a guaranteed 3 Expo Cards. Your name will then be added to the Expo list.

My thoughts are that all 21 of the slot entry's would be removed from the randomization for the remaining cards. Eliminates the risk with random.org and guarantees you a card(s). Random.org could net you say 5 of these but you could also get none. Those left in the list would be randomized starting at the top of the list and going downwards till the Expo cards ran out. But we can scrap this whole idea as well if those participating don’t like it.

Example here based on a half case (10 boxes is 70 hits):

110 has 10 slots - 1 guaranteed Promo Card and 3 towards Promo Random
111 has 21 sots - 3 guaranteed Promo Cards
112 has 7 slots - 1 guaranteed Promo Card
113 has 4 slots - 4 Entries into Promo Random
114 has 3 slots - 3 Entries into Promo Random
115 has 7 slots - 1 guaranteed Promo Card
116 has 6 slots - 6 Entries into Promo Random
117 has 12 slots- 1 guaranteed Promo Card and 5 towards Promo Random

So we'd have 10 Guaranteed Promo Cards coming from this break.

Member 110 gets 1, 111 gets 3, 115 gets 1 and 117 gets 1. So 7 of the 10 are already determined. A list of the following names would be created and randomized: 110 (x3) 113 (x4), 114 (x3), 116 (x6), and 117 (x5). Top three on this list would then be added to a new list with the guaranteed Promo Card Holders and this list would then be randomized and the order of the cards that ITG gives us would be used for that.

Now extra bonus for those in Michigan. While the state screws you with sales tax that I must collect, if you want to meet up at the show when we do the break – all shipping charges can be removed from you payment – this way your slots are even cheaper!
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thought of another possible option

Option #4 (4 autos, 2 relics, 1 patch of honor, 5 base per slot)

1720 a case
20 slots (4 autos, 2 relics, 1 patch of honor, 5 base per slot)
86 Direct Slot Cost
xx.xx for supplies (sleeves, toploads, padded mailer and shipping label)
xx.xx to ship
xx.xx in Paypal Fees
xx.xx Subtotal


All auto's seperated and randomed so each slot gets 4 autos
All Relics sepearted and randomed so each slot get's 2 relics
All Patch of Honor inserts randomed so each slot get's 1 Patch of Honor
All Base randomed so each slot get's 5 base cards


Basically every slot will get the contents that 1 box would contain, but everything from the case is randomed.

Then every slot would also get a random expo card as well...

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I voted...lets get some more input on this
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Ok - still hoping for more input on this! I know I've wanted to try and get a Michigander Break Going for awhile now (will gladly include anyone else that's willing to drive from Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and of course Canada and maybe this can be the start to it.

Might have option # 5 on the table similar to what weedyalan was posting but a lot simpler. I think I've gotten blowout permission for this since to my knowledge this hasnt been done nor typically is it a cost effective way since your better off to just buy the box since you'd be factoring in paypal fees and shipping. But we're adding the promo card which should negate that especially if you can show up at the break and get your box.

What about we do say a 20 slot break - but each slot is a box? Everyone just gets a box and the contents? Slot price would go up some due to shipping (planning on shipping just the slide box and cards not the actual product box) - but if I went with the USPS padded Priority Mailers pretty sure I could put one per box if you wanted the box too.

Simpler for me as well as this only makes for say 2 randoms (box order and promo cards) - and very likely ships next day (maybe same day) - but still really want to make sure we can get the case contents posted as well as scans for everyone to see.
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So if I go in on 7 slots I would get one fall expo? Just making sure. If that is the case, I'd go option 3, no base
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I didn't vote,but i would do a few spots how ever you decide as long as i don't break the bank,and maybe make it to Gibraltar..
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I'll gladly take car poolers I assume Mike will be coming up from Jackson and Likely meet Jeff in route but that still leaves at least one open spot (comfortably).
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I do like the By the Box Concept on this. Makes things much easier to keep track of on this - especially since this will be a remote break. I'll wait another day for input but likely post this up tomorrow (I will also make sure the link posts in this thread - so if you subscribe to this you'll get the link to the actual break thread)
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I'll gladly take car poolers I assume Mike will be coming up from Jackson and Likely meet Jeff in route but that still leaves at least one open spot (comfortably).
I'll be more than happy to car pool with anyone along my trek.
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I do like the By the Box Concept on this. Makes things much easier to keep track of on this - especially since this will be a remote break. I'll wait another day for input but likely post this up tomorrow (I will also make sure the link posts in this thread - so if you subscribe to this you'll get the link to the actual break thread)
I'm all for that. I was going to get a box of this, anyway. I'm calling dibs on a box right now so I don't miss out later
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I like the car pool idea,and the wife would be more than happy to get me out of the house/yard..
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I may or may not car pool
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Keep your eyes open - break has been submitted!

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/t...x-special.html

Once its approved I will have this thread closed.
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