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Old 05-19-2013, 12:25 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I'm curious to how the 2010 platinum extra auto is going to work? It doesn't say the players name until you input it into the Topps redemption website so how will we know what player it is?
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I'm curious to how the 2010 platinum extra auto is going to work? It doesn't say the players name until you input it into the Topps redemption website so how will we know what player it is?
Do you or any one else know when these expire? The great Topps Company has made this hard for me to find. The only fair thing is to random it between all teams if we don't know prior.

(On the site here I have read people still waiting after two years on these redemptions.)

By the way if we do hit a expired redemption the team that hits it gets the points and can hope that it might still be honored.
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Do you or any one else know when these expire? The great Topps Company has made this hard for me to find. The only fair thing is to random it between all teams if we don't know prior.

(On the site here I have read people still waiting after two years on these redemptions.)

By the way if we do hit a expired redemption the team that hits it gets the points and can hope that it might still be honored.
These expired December 31, 2012. The regular autos are still good, I think, but I know these have expired.
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What product is being broken? 2010 Platinum?
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This will have to be a majority decision because the reason I stated the list will be random each time was because the last break like this I was in was done like the suggestion and I literally got the Tigers 4 out of 5 breaks.

I have no problem if the group would like it done like the suggestion below but there was a number of people that picked spots based on the way the OP was set up.

I am in it to have fun so the group gets to decide (Granted I would Like to hit a monster but fun is fun.)
to be clear -- this list that was just random for the first break of our Names - to rollover to be the list that gets random for next break . with no change to the original list of teams that is sent to random.

i know random is random . but if we use the same lists for random each time , kind of negates the random.

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Or leave the participant list in the original order for each random so people have certain numbers they want, and random the team's off from the previous months order.

Or change the number of times lists are randomized from month to month.

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This will have to be a majority decision because the reason I stated the list will be random each time was because the last break like this I was in was done like the suggestion and I literally got the Tigers 4 out of 5 breaks.

I have no problem if the group would like it done like the suggestion below but there was a number of people that picked spots based on the way the OP was set up.

I am in it to have fun so the group gets to decide (Granted I would Like to hit a monster but fun is fun.)
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Or leave the participant list in the original order for each random so people have certain numbers they want, and random the team's off from the previous months order.
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i like this aswell .

i just see things like this in the slot/draft breaks a lot. where guys buy into breaks and always choose the same spots . usually due to these spots landing in the top spots after random .. its a % and odds game . luck is like 5% of anything . but they always tend to land those good spots ,because after so many randoms the spots they pick more often than not land in the same place .
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Lol, looks like my Tigers fan friend might be getting some more free cards from me XD.

And on the random thing, I don't really care how it's done, but I really don't think it should matter as long as the random generator is working correctly. Random is random, it can bless you or screw you over. I think people choosing the same numbers are doing it off of superstition :P
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I really don't think it should matter as long as the random generator is working correctly. Random is random, it can bless you or screw you over. I think people choosing the same numbers are doing it off of superstition :P
Agreed. It doesn't really matter to me how we do the random as long as it's a random. I would like to see some sort of stats on why people think random.org is producing the same results for certain spots multiple times. That would really be eyebrow-raising.
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Agreed. It doesn't really matter to me how we do the random as long as it's a random. I would like to see some sort of stats on why people think random.org is producing the same results for certain spots multiple times. That would really be eyebrow-raising.
well , i was in the league before , several months of breaks. and the same lists were used for random every month . and i landed the same teams 3 out of 6 breaks.. that does not seem random to me .

just makes me more comfortable if we do change it . someone should try and run a test on if the random is truly random ..
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On The Left Same Random --------- Right = Random From Last Random
Spots Every Time
#1
1. 19: dirtydistance 1. 7. Cincinnati Reds 1. 21: metsy617
2. 25: pjray55 (B) 2. 3. Baltimore Orioles 2. 11: Lastminute73
3. 22: SteelPen2 (B) 3. 9. Colorado Rockies 3. 26: skillovermyluck
4. 29: aircharlotte 4. 22. Pittsburgh Pirates 4. 12: matt4486
5. 21: metsy617 5. 30. Washington Nationals 5. 25: pjray55 (B)
6. 26: skillovermyluck 6. 13. Kansas City Royals 6. 3: mhudso27
7. 5: TOMBB25 7. 23. San Diego Padres 7. 10: DaBaddestHic
8. 8: KB81 8. 15. Los Angeles Dodgers 8. 14: Mike Yoder
9. 14: Mike Yoder 9. 8. Cleveland Indians 9. 24: ChrisNTx
10. 16: jackal726 10. 16. Milwaukee Brewers 10. 29: aircharlotte
11. 13: SteelPen2 (A) 11. 27. Tampa Bay Rays 11. 28: sportsamerica
12. 20: flashdog5 12. 12. Houston Astros 12. 8: KB81
13. 15: Pete Schweddy 13. 19. New York Yankees 13. 5: TOMBB25
14. 6: JFray 14. 14. Los Angeles Angels 14. 2: ByronsCards
15. 1: Snowboy (A) 15. 2. Atlanta Braves 15. 16: jackal726
16. 7: pjray55 (A) 16. 20. Oakland Athletics 16. 7: pjray55 (A)
17. 9: 85GoCards 17. 5. Chicago Cubs 17. 20: flashdog5
18. 18: izybone 18. 25. Seattle Mariners 18. 30: Snowboy (B)
19. 3: mhudso27 19. 4. Boston Red Sox 19. 17: almeleles
20. 30: Snowboy (B) 20. 17. Minnesota Twins 20. 18: izybone
21. 10: DaBaddestHic 21. 21. Philadelphia Phillies 21. 4: lostpatrol
22. 23: theacox 22. 10. Detroit Tigers 22. 9: 85GoCards
23. 12: matt4486 23. 24. San Francisco Giants 23. 1: Snowboy (A)
24. 17: almeleles 24. 18. New York Mets 24. 27: mcdo0423
25. 2: ByronsCards 25. 1. Arizona Diamondbacks 25. 15: Pete Schweddy
26. 11: Lastminute73 26. 11. Miami Marlins 26. 22: SteelPen2 (B)
27. 28: sportsamerica 27. 28. Texas Rangers 27. 13: SteelPen2 (A)
28. 24: ChrisNTx 28. 26. St. Louis Cardinals 28. 23: theacox
29. 27: mcdo0423 29. 29. Toronto Blue Jays 29. 19: dirtydistance
30. 4: lostpatrol 30. 6. Chicago White Sox 30. 6: JFray

#2
1. 12: matt4486 1. 19. New York Yankees 1. 28: sportsamerica
2. 15: Pete Schweddy 2. 1. Arizona Diamondbacks 2. 4: lostpatrol
3. 29: aircharlotte 3. 17. Minnesota Twins 3. 8: KB81
4. 11: Lastminute73 4. 11. Miami Marlins 4. 1: Snowboy (A)
5. 26: skillovermyluck 5. 27. Tampa Bay Rays 5. 16: jackal726
6. 22: SteelPen2 (B) 6. 20. Oakland Athletics 6. 24: ChrisNTx
7. 10: DaBaddestHic 7. 16. Milwaukee Brewers 7. 23: theacox
8. 7: pjray55 (A) 8. 22. Pittsburgh Pirates 8. 30: Snowboy (B)
9. 3: mhudso27 9. 18. New York Mets 9. 29: aircharlotte
10. 17: almeleles 10. 21. Philadelphia Phillies 10. 22: SteelPen2 (B)
11. 1: Snowboy (A) 11. 6. Chicago White Sox 11. 11: Lastminute73
12. 4: lostpatrol 12. 30. Washington Nationals 12. 13: SteelPen2 (A)
13. 30: Snowboy (B) 13. 8. Cleveland Indians 13. 20: flashdog5
14. 28: sportsamerica 14. 2. Atlanta Braves 14. 26: skillovermyluck
15. 9: 85GoCards 15. 7. Cincinnati Reds 15. 6: JFray
16. 23: theacox 16. 5. Chicago Cubs 16. 14: Mike Yoder
17. 24: ChrisNTx 17. 14. Los Angeles Angels 17. 27: mcdo0423
18. 2: ByronsCards 18. 29. Toronto Blue Jays 18. 7: pjray55 (A)
19. 18: izybone 19. 3. Baltimore Orioles 19. 2: ByronsCards
20. 14: Mike Yoder 20. 23. San Diego Padres 20. 10: DaBaddestHic
21. 25: pjray55 (B) 21. 28. Texas Rangers 21. 25: pjray55 (B)
22. 27: mcdo0423 22. 25. Seattle Mariners 22. 5: TOMBB25
23. 6: JFray 23. 10. Detroit Tigers 23. 19: dirtydistance
24. 19: dirtydistance 24. 15. Los Angeles Dodgers 24. 3: mhudso27
25. 8: KB81 25. 4. Boston Red Sox 25. 17: almeleles
26. 16: jackal726 26. 9. Colorado Rockies 26. 21: metsy617
27. 20: flashdog5 27. 26. St. Louis Cardinals 27. 12: matt4486
28. 13: SteelPen2 (A) 28. 12. Houston Astros 28. 9: 85GoCards
29. 5: TOMBB25 29. 13. Kansas City Royals 29. 15: Pete Schweddy
30. 21: metsy617 30. 24. San Francisco Giants 30. 18: izybone Payment

#3
1. 30: Snowboy (B) 1. 3. Baltimore Orioles 1. 7: pjray55 (A)
2. 13: SteelPen2 (A) 2. 27. Tampa Bay Rays 2. 8: KB81
3. 25: pjray55 (B) 3. 17. Minnesota Twins 3. 11: Lastminute73
4. 29: aircharlotte 4. 26. St. Louis Cardinals 4. 20: flashdog5
5. 7: pjray55 (A) 5. 4. Boston Red Sox 5. 18: izybone Payment
6. 4: lostpatrol 6. 24. San Francisco Giants 6. 25: pjray55 (B)
7. 28: sportsamerica 7. 23. San Diego Padres 7. 30: Snowboy (B)
8. 8: KB81 8. 10. Detroit Tigers 8. 16: jackal726
9. 5: TOMBB25 9. 18. New York Mets 9. 4: lostpatrol
10. 23: theacox 10. 21. Philadelphia Phillies 10. 27: mcdo0423
11. 17: almeleles 11. 9. Colorado Rockies 11. 1: Snowboy (A)
12. 14: Mike Yoder 12. 30. Washington Nationals 12. 5: TOMBB25
13. 3: mhudso27 13. 15. Los Angeles Dodgers 13. 19: dirtydistance
14. 2: ByronsCards 14. 2. Atlanta Braves 14. 3: mhudso27
15. 12: matt4486 15. 8. Cleveland Indians 15. 21: metsy617
16. 19: dirtydistance 16. 29. Toronto Blue Jays 16. 10: DaBaddestHic
17. 16: jackal726 17. 22. Pittsburgh Pirates 17. 26: skillovermyluck
18. 6: JFray 18. 25. Seattle Mariners 18. 12: matt4486
19. 21: metsy617 19. 12. Houston Astros 19. 23: theacox
20. 26: skillovermyluck 20. 7. Cincinnati Reds 20. 28: sportsamerica
21. 11: Lastminute73 21. 5. Chicago Cubs 21. 22: SteelPen2 (B)
22. 15: Pete Schweddy 22. 20. Oakland Athletics 22. 14: Mike Yoder
23. 27: mcdo0423 23. 13. Kansas City Royals 23. 13: SteelPen2 (A)
24. 1: Snowboy (A) 24. 6. Chicago White Sox 24. 6: JFray
25. 20: flashdog5 25. 19. New York Yankees 25. 15: Pete Schweddy
26. 9: 85GoCards 26. 14. Los Angeles Angels 26. 29: aircharlotte
27. 18: izybone 27. 11. Miami Marlins 27. 2: ByronsCards
28. 24: ChrisNTx 28. 16. Milwaukee Brewers 28. 24: ChrisNTx
29. 22: SteelPen2 (B) 29. 1. Arizona Diamondbacks 29. 17: almeleles
30. 10: DaBaddestHic 30. 28. Texas Rangers 30. 9: 85GoCards

#4
1. 1: Snowboy (A) 1. 13. Kansas City Royals 1. 3: mhudso27
2. 7: pjray55 (A) 2. 22. Pittsburgh Pirates 2. 23: theacox
3. 5: TOMBB25 3. 24. San Francisco Giants 3. 2: ByronsCards
4. 4: lostpatrol 4. 18. New York Mets 4. 12: matt4486
5. 2: ByronsCards 5. 25. Seattle Mariners 5. 16: jackal726
6. 3: mhudso27 6. 8. Cleveland Indians 6. 10: DaBaddestHic
7. 16: jackal726 7. 21. Philadelphia Phillies 7. 19: dirtydistance
8. 18: izybone 8. 5. Chicago Cubs 8. 26: skillovermyluck
9. 26: skillovermyluck 9. 20. Oakland Athletics 9. 17: almeleles
10. 8: KB81 10. 23. San Diego Padres 10. 6: JFray
11. 25: pjray55 (B) 11. 1. Arizona Diamondbacks 11. 15: Pete Schweddy
12. 21: metsy617 12. 10. Detroit Tigers 12. 20: flashdog5
13. 12: matt4486 13. 19. New York Yankees 13. 8: KB81
14. 15: Pete Schweddy 14. 7. Cincinnati Reds 14. 29: aircharlotte
15. 30: Snowboy (B) 15. 17. Minnesota Twins 15. 1: Snowboy (A)
16. 11: Lastminute73 16. 12. Houston Astros 16. 5: TOMBB25
17. 24: ChrisNTx 17. 28. Texas Rangers 17. 9: 85GoCards
18. 22: SteelPen2 (B) 18. 30. Washington Nationals 18. 28: sportsamerica
19. 6: JFray 19. 15. Los Angeles Dodgers 19. 21: metsy617
20. 29: aircharlotte 20. 3. Baltimore Orioles 20. 25: pjray55 (B)
21. 10: DaBaddestHic 21. 14. Los Angeles Angels 21. 11: Lastminute73
22. 13: SteelPen2 (A) 22. 26. St. Louis Cardinals 22. 18: izybone
23. 23: theacox 23. 11. Miami Marlins 23. 24: ChrisNTx
24. 28: sportsamerica 24. 2. Atlanta Braves 24. 22: SteelPen2 (B)
25. 17: almeleles 25. 29. Toronto Blue Jays 25. 14: Mike Yoder
26. 14: Mike Yoder 26. 6. Chicago White Sox 26. 13: SteelPen2 (A)
27. 20: flashdog5 27. 16. Milwaukee Brewers 27. 27: mcdo0423
28. 27: mcdo0423 28. 27. Tampa Bay Rays 28. 4: lostpatrol
29. 9: 85GoCards 29. 4. Boston Red Sox 29. 30: Snowboy (B)
30. 19: dirtydistance 30. 9. Colorado Rockies 30. 7: pjray55 (A)


The Moral of the story: Randoms I guess do what they want, I did not get the same team on either side Twice so everyone can decide what they want. Anyone could do this and the outcome would be totally different.
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What does everyone think about a Wednesday 6:00 PM Eastern Break?
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Good with me. I'm also fine with any of the random options, including using the original list everytime.
I ended up with the D'Backs 3 times in your example, once on the left and twice on the right, so using the previous random doesn't seem to help anymore.
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I say we random the same original list every time. The outcome will always be different.

Wed break is cool with me
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Good with me. I'm also fine with any of the random options, including using the original list everytime.
I ended up with the D'Backs 3 times in your example, once on the left and twice on the right, so using the previous random doesn't seem to help anymore.
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I say we random the same original list every time. The outcome will always be different.

Wed break is cool with me
The random gods have their on thing and there will be the times a team you want/don't want seem to follow you no matter what you try.
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TRADE

Pjray55 trades the Braves to Jackal for the Cardinals

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Pjray55 trades the Braves to Jackal for the Cardinals

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It does not matter to me which way we random, I will go with whatever is choosen.. Random gods don't like me anyways.
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Sounds good to me
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