Fake Patches on Ebay

iamjoecollector · 09-08-2009, 01:47 AM

This guy is selling the altered patches that he bought as lesser patches under this username.

This may have been posted already.

JDThaRealist · 09-08-2009, 02:57 AM

WOW!!!!!!
Same SN different patches

Nice crack down

moestavern10 · 09-08-2009, 03:04 AM

nice catch joe!! i was looking at that AP with the viking logo on ebay and i said to myself "that dont look right?" what a stupid scammer!!

GoClips! · 09-08-2009, 04:43 AM

I can't believe he ruined such a sweet OJ patch. What a tool.

vatechhokiefan · 09-08-2009, 07:20 AM

Looks like he is gonna make a profit on that Peterson card. The more I see of this, the less likely I am to buy some of these cards off of eBay. The card companies need to find a solution to this problem quickly.

ddearing · 09-08-2009, 07:55 AM

I have always wondered why the card companies don't offer a picture of the whole run of high end cards available on their website. Not for every product, but for the really high end stuff like Exquisite, SPA & Ultimate. COMC has shown that it is not prohibitively expensive to scan and database the images. For example, I would click on Upper Deck's website and view all 99 of the Exquisite AP rookie patches. This process would certainly slow down production by 1-2 days, but it would all but eliminate the fake patch business. In addition, it would actually add excitement to guys who can view the cards online, pick out their favorite patch and then go hunting for it. It could create its own craze of card hunting. Maybe I could even register my card on the site so if I had a card that someone wanted - they could contact me about it. This actually sounds like a good idea for a partnership between COMC and the manufacturers. . . . . .

37Jetson · 09-08-2009, 08:03 AM

How stupid can buyer's be? This clown shows up on Ebay with 85 total feedback all of which is from buying cards. He has only four cards for sale and they are the most incredible looking patch cards that you have ever seen. People are willing to risk $1,250+ to buy from this guy? Wow!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddearing

I have always wondered why the card companies don't offer a picture of the whole run of high end cards available on their website. Not for every product, but for the really high end stuff like Exquisite, SPA & Ultimate. COMC has shown that it is not prohibitively expensive to scan and database the images. For example, I would click on Upper Deck's website and view all 99 of the Exquisite AP rookie patches. This process would certainly slow down production by 1-2 days, but it would all but eliminate the fake patch business. In addition, it would actually add excitement to guys who can view the cards online, pick out their favorite patch and then go hunting for it. It could create its own craze of card hunting. Maybe I could even register my card on the site so if I had a card that someone wanted - they could contact me about it. This actually sounds like a good idea for a partnership between COMC and the manufacturers. . . . . .

iamjoecollector · 09-08-2009, 09:48 AM

I don't deserve much credit, I tracked down a couple of the pics but one of his ripped off buyers posted an auction that exposed the Matt Ryan sp authentic patch.

I would never buy a crazy logo patch off eBay. Too good to be true and even if it is true not worth the cash to take the chance.

papajim · 09-08-2009, 10:15 AM

Pretty funny listing

A few members have reported seller to Ebay and I sent the auction to UD. I asked them to look into it and help fight internet fraud. We shall see

Vintage Collector · 09-08-2009, 10:18 AM

why are all his seller feedback items marked "private"?

nephinfan · 09-08-2009, 10:19 AM

I'm wondering if companies are going to have to start placing something over the jersey/patch area to cover it up and make it harder for scum bags to get away with this. For example, Allen & Ginter cards have a sort of plastic "border" around the swatches. If companies started placing plastic over the whole swatch, I would think it would slow down some of these guys. Yes, it would take away from the attractiveness of the cards, but it's better than being ripped off with a fake patch. Just my opinion.

iamjoecollector · 09-08-2009, 07:57 PM

What the seller doesn't know is that as soon as I win the auctions, I am going to get his contact information and file a police report in his jurisdiction. I will tell him as soon as he sends me an invoice. The crime is, in Oregon anyway, attempted theft by deception in the first degree. I'll keep everyone filled in on his reaction. Awesome!

Update: He cancelled my bids

Quote:

Originally Posted by nephinfan

I'm wondering if companies are going to have to start placing something over the jersey/patch area to cover it up and make it harder for scum bags to get away with this. For example, Allen & Ginter cards have a sort of plastic "border" around the swatches. If companies started placing plastic over the whole swatch, I would think it would slow down some of these guys. Yes, it would take away from the attractiveness of the cards, but it's better than being ripped off with a fake patch. Just my opinion.

brett06 · 09-08-2009, 10:54 PM

what a complete tool. Hey maybe its that biotool guy that was on here.

mwheeler27 · 09-08-2009, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamjoecollector

I would never buy a crazy logo patch off eBay. Too good to be true and even if it is true not worth the cash to take the chance.

What sucks the most about this is what you just said. It's how a lot of people feel. So when real patches get pulled and sold on EBay, they don't bring anywhere near what they should because of all the scammers out there.

matts_cardz · 09-09-2009, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintage Collector

why are all his seller feedback items marked "private"?

so you wouldnt be able to contact the buyer of the fake cards he sells...I noticed this by looking at the bidder's for each of his cards he put up, they are all marked private also

matts_cardz · 09-09-2009, 07:55 AM

wait for this one to show up, he just bought this on ebay:

05 Absolute TOTT Swatch Single Jumbo Cal Ripken Jersey - eBay (item 220407083713 end time Aug-27-09 14:36:57 PDT)

tattooelement · 09-10-2009, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nephinfan

I'm wondering if companies are going to have to start placing something over the jersey/patch area to cover it up and make it harder for scum bags to get away with this.

This is what I would like to see happen. That would be the best solution for everyone. Buyers would have the knowledge that the card is legit, and that would benefit ($$) the sellers. That is, until the scammers figure a way around this as well...

HoustonCollectr · 03-25-2010, 02:40 PM

It'd also work if they'd show the jersey that the item comes from on the card, like they did 5-6 years ago.

nuggetsman28 · 03-25-2010, 04:59 PM

DAN MARINO 09 TOPPS PLATINUM 4CLR LOGO AUTO PATCH /25 - eBay (item 110511590777 end time Mar-29-10 20:32:49 PDT)

This guy should be locked up... Any success on the police report man?

sportscards1013 · 03-25-2010, 07:38 PM

Look at the Mo Rivera one he has up now. That's not what the Rivera ultimate patches look like, someone on here pulled one.

This guy is a scammer, and a horrible excuse for a seller. I hope he gets what he deserves and all of his victims get their $$ back.

Do you think someone should send messages to all of his buyers telling them they bought fakes?? This would ruin him for sure.

miller45452003 · 03-25-2010, 08:43 PM

^^^All the buyers are kept private. I just sent him a piece of my mind. F'ing a-hole. I'll probably get suspended from ebay. It's jackoffs like this guy and this other guy (link below) that makes a guy not trust ebay. Ebay needs to get something done...what a crock!!!!

RAY RICE 2008 BOWMAN STERLING GOLD AUTO PATCH RC /100 - eBay (item 110509700198 end time Mar-25-10 19:36:51 PDT)

This idiot wont reply to me either!!!!!!!!!!

sportscards1013 · 03-25-2010, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miller45452003

^^^All the buyers are kept private. I just sent him a piece of my mind. F'ing a-hole. I'll probably get suspended from ebay. It's jackoffs like this guy and this other guy (link below) that makes a guy not trust ebay. Ebay needs to get something done...what a crock!!!!

RAY RICE 2008 BOWMAN STERLING GOLD AUTO PATCH RC /100 - eBay (item 110509700198 end time Mar-25-10 19:36:51 PDT)

This is idiot wont reply to me either!!!!!!!!!!

I feel bad for the people who bid $51 on this fake. Don't they see the warning signs of a private listing? What did you say to him? Did he respond?

37Jetson · 03-25-2010, 08:53 PM

Yall are just jealous that he has the most ridiculous pulls in the industry! His pulls are so great that he lights his cigarettes with Chris Johnson Base Rookie Cards. He sorts his Exquisite over the garbage can with #/99 not worth the bother.

miller45452003 · 03-25-2010, 08:53 PM

^^^Yeah...nothing over the top. I emailed him on seperate occasions(same email) with no response back.

EMAIL TO LARRYHOLMESSICKNESS
Hello,,

Very interested in bidding on this card. Just curious of the authenticity of this patch. Do you know the where abouts of this card before you?

Thanks in advance for the help
Matt

alexlazarevich · 04-25-2010, 09:43 PM

I was about to bid on one of this guys (larryholms dude) cards, did a quick search on his Ebay name here, and boom, found out that he's selling cranked up sh*t! Even if the card I wanted to bid on is legit, I still wont buy anything from someone that is know to sell cranked up sh*t.

Again, this forum proves itself invaluable to me. Thanks!

Alex

09-08-2009, 01:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
iamjoecollector Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 639 iamjoecollector	Fake Patches on Ebay This guy is selling the altered patches that he bought as lesser patches under this username. This may have been posted already. Last edited by iamjoecollector; 09-08-2009 at 01:52 AM.

09-08-2009, 02:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
JDThaRealist Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 425 JDCards	WOW!!!!!! Same SN different patches Nice crack down __________________ laclipperscollection.webs.com ^^^Check Out My Collection^^^

09-08-2009, 04:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
GoClips! Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: California Posts: 1,722	I can't believe he ruined such a sweet OJ patch. What a tool. __________________ Looking for:08-09 Topps Hardwood Sketches, , 08-09 UD Black on-patch autos #/15, THREADS Patch/Autos #/25, and Court Kings 5x7 Box Topper Autos. PM me if you have any! To avoid any confusion, I don't pay by "gift". WINNER of Blowout Survivor Season 2

09-08-2009, 10:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
papajim Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,570 retiredafgi	Pretty funny listing A few members have reported seller to Ebay and I sent the auction to UD. I asked them to look into it and help fight internet fraud. We shall see __________________ LOOKING FOR EDDIE ROYAL MAYO RED INK AUTOS

09-08-2009, 10:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Vintage Collector Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,986 mitcards	why are all his seller feedback items marked "private"? __________________ Vintage Collector's Ebay ID is - Mitcards I always start them at 99 cents and there is never a reserve. I will Purchase your Vintage Cards, Poor to Pristine! I will also trade My Cards for your Silver or Gold! Never Forget 9/11, Be Diligent and Safe!

09-08-2009, 03:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
moestavern10 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MINNESOTA Posts: 787	nice catch joe!! i was looking at that AP with the viking logo on ebay and i said to myself "that dont look right?" what a stupid scammer!!

09-08-2009, 07:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
vatechhokiefan Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dublin, VA Posts: 1,971 admiral50	Looks like he is gonna make a profit on that Peterson card. The more I see of this, the less likely I am to buy some of these cards off of eBay. The card companies need to find a solution to this problem quickly.

09-08-2009, 07:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
ddearing Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,314 vintage-dan ddearing	I have always wondered why the card companies don't offer a picture of the whole run of high end cards available on their website. Not for every product, but for the really high end stuff like Exquisite, SPA & Ultimate. COMC has shown that it is not prohibitively expensive to scan and database the images. For example, I would click on Upper Deck's website and view all 99 of the Exquisite AP rookie patches. This process would certainly slow down production by 1-2 days, but it would all but eliminate the fake patch business. In addition, it would actually add excitement to guys who can view the cards online, pick out their favorite patch and then go hunting for it. It could create its own craze of card hunting. Maybe I could even register my card on the site so if I had a card that someone wanted - they could contact me about it. This actually sounds like a good idea for a partnership between COMC and the manufacturers. . . . . .

09-08-2009, 09:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
iamjoecollector Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 639 iamjoecollector	I don't deserve much credit, I tracked down a couple of the pics but one of his ripped off buyers posted an auction that exposed the Matt Ryan sp authentic patch. I would never buy a crazy logo patch off eBay. Too good to be true and even if it is true not worth the cash to take the chance.

09-08-2009, 10:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
nephinfan Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nebraska Posts: 3,584 nephinfan	I'm wondering if companies are going to have to start placing something over the jersey/patch area to cover it up and make it harder for scum bags to get away with this. For example, Allen & Ginter cards have a sort of plastic "border" around the swatches. If companies started placing plastic over the whole swatch, I would think it would slow down some of these guys. Yes, it would take away from the attractiveness of the cards, but it's better than being ripped off with a fake patch. Just my opinion.

09-08-2009, 10:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
brett06 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,755 brett0622	what a complete tool. Hey maybe its that biotool guy that was on here. __________________ looking for whatever catches my eye.

09-09-2009, 07:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
matts_cardz Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Graytown, OH Posts: 4,824 matts_cardz	wait for this one to show up, he just bought this on ebay: 05 Absolute TOTT Swatch Single Jumbo Cal Ripken Jersey - eBay (item 220407083713 end time Aug-27-09 14:36:57 PDT) __________________ - My name is Matt and I am a cardboard addict ****Collecting your Anderson Varejao cards...Send me a PM if you have any Patch/Autos/Jerseys/SP Parallels of him!****

03-25-2010, 02:40 PM	#18 (permalink)
HoustonCollectr Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 637 fieldlevelview	It'd also work if they'd show the jersey that the item comes from on the card, like they did 5-6 years ago.

03-25-2010, 04:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
nuggetsman28 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charlotte, N.C Posts: 3,939 kencharlotte704	DAN MARINO 09 TOPPS PLATINUM 4CLR LOGO AUTO PATCH /25 - eBay (item 110511590777 end time Mar-29-10 20:32:49 PDT) This guy should be locked up... Any success on the police report man? __________________ Wild'n Cuz I'm Young... The True Cudder Stan.

03-25-2010, 07:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
sportscards1013 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,780 maddog10golf	Look at the Mo Rivera one he has up now. That's not what the Rivera ultimate patches look like, someone on here pulled one. This guy is a scammer, and a horrible excuse for a seller. I hope he gets what he deserves and all of his victims get their $$ back. Do you think someone should send messages to all of his buyers telling them they bought fakes?? This would ruin him for sure.

03-25-2010, 08:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
miller45452003 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,043 miller4545	^^^All the buyers are kept private. I just sent him a piece of my mind. F'ing a-hole. I'll probably get suspended from ebay. It's jackoffs like this guy and this other guy (link below) that makes a guy not trust ebay. Ebay needs to get something done...what a crock!!!! RAY RICE 2008 BOWMAN STERLING GOLD AUTO PATCH RC /100 - eBay (item 110509700198 end time Mar-25-10 19:36:51 PDT) This idiot wont reply to me either!!!!!!!!!! Last edited by miller45452003; 03-25-2010 at 08:57 PM.

03-25-2010, 08:53 PM	#23 (permalink)
37Jetson Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Central PA Posts: 5,357 Tigers1984WS	Yall are just jealous that he has the most ridiculous pulls in the industry! His pulls are so great that he lights his cigarettes with Chris Johnson Base Rookie Cards. He sorts his Exquisite over the garbage can with #/99 not worth the bother. __________________ Checkoutmycards.com ID = Tigers1984WS

03-25-2010, 08:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
miller45452003 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,043 miller4545	^^^Yeah...nothing over the top. I emailed him on seperate occasions(same email) with no response back. EMAIL TO LARRYHOLMESSICKNESS Hello,, Very interested in bidding on this card. Just curious of the authenticity of this patch. Do you know the where abouts of this card before you? Thanks in advance for the help Matt

04-25-2010, 09:43 PM	#25 (permalink)
alexlazarevich Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Champaign, Illinois Posts: 2,506 alexlazarevich*cardboardaddict	I was about to bid on one of this guys (larryholms dude) cards, did a quick search on his Ebay name here, and boom, found out that he's selling cranked up sht! Even if the card I wanted to bid on is legit, I still wont buy anything from someone that is know to sell cranked up sht. Again, this forum proves itself invaluable to me. Thanks! Alex

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