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Old 04-29-2009, 11:29 AM   #2571 (permalink)
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When I sell on eBay I use a tiered free structure for shipping because I'm trying to charge buyers what it costs to ship and not make a huge profit on overpriced shipping.

1 to 5 cards = $3.00 (your baseline price)
6 to 10 cards = $4.00
11 to 25 cards = $5.00
26 to 50 cards = $6.00
51+ is purely calculated and most times it's no more than $6 anyway.

What I suggested earlier in this post is that COMC adopt EXACTLY this type of structure. It would make more sense, make them much more competitive over eBay (because again, the benefit of COMC is you can aggregate cards from MULTIPLE sellers into one combined shipping rate), and it would allow them to actually SHIP more cards, clear out their inventory and reduce their carrying costs.

Hello! COMC! Are you listening?!?!?
I don't think you are understanding the difference between sellers selling their own cards on Ebay, and what COMC is doing. It's completely different. Let me explain again:

If I own 1Million cards and I want to sell them on Ebay, I can organize them by year, product, card number, etc. It will be very easy for me to find the exact cards people buy.

However, I would assume COMC cannot do it this way because they have many different sellers, a lot of the same cards, and you get the exact card you buy. It takes a LOT of time to find that specific card you bought. Their shipping fees have "searching and locating" fees built in.

I'll say it again, the sellers can do nothing but put the cards in a box and ship to COMC if they want. COMC does all the work for them, and it's great. The sellers should help pay for the shipping costs of the buyers. It's a no-brainer.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:44 AM   #2572 (permalink)
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CMC is still good. Say there is a card for $2.50 and you buy it for 25 cents. Get like 10 of these cards ship them and it will cost you like $6+ the $2.50 so about $9 for $25 worth of cards. About $1 a card, its about the same amount if you went to a card store. Now go ahead and get some better cards and the shipping doesn't really matter. This site is still better then Ebay, don't know why so many people complain. If a card isn't worth shipping it to you, then don't buy it. After the first card its only a quarter, that is not bad, take the quarter and say you want this card for $1, its on sell for $1.25, offer $1 and you are set.
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COMC simply can't compete with sportlots in terms of buyers purchasing base cards under their current shipping pricing strategy. Sportlots is hands down the best site on the internet for set builders based on the volume of cards on the site and their cheapness in shipping costs. So if COMC wants to compete with Sportlots from the buyers perspective, they need for their shipping prices to be competitive. A shipping cap accomplishes that.

I 100% agree with mwheeler's take on the sellers paying a little more to allow this to happen. There are a variety of ways this could be done which would be fair for sellers, and allow buyers to pay a flat $3.00 or $3.00 + $0.10 per card or some other variation that would be WAAAAAY less than what buyers pay now.

The site exists to sell cards. Buyers are the instrument that makes the objective happen. For them to pass their overhead burdens on to the buyer is completely asinine from a business perspective. Especially considering those overhead expenses would be paid whether an order is placed or not.
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The site exists to sell cards. Buyers are the instrument that makes the objective happen. For them to pass their overhead burdens on to the buyer is completely asinine from a business perspective. Especially considering those overhead expenses would be paid whether an order is placed or not.
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I guess I'm not supposed to disagree with you now that I know you sell cars?

Obviously changes needed to be made with how COMC was doing business. More changes will be needed in the future as with all growing companies. Please don't compare your business with theirs and pretend you "know" what they are going through. You know the old adage, "comparing apples to oranges", right?

I'm not happy with their changes either, but I can and will adapt. Hopefully the rest of you can as well.
Sorry i dont sell cars, I own the business and a couple of posts about COMC have offers to "invest" in COMC.

Someone OWNS Comc. There are some relationship to ownership. I have started and sold a card shop(hence looking into the card market again), started and sold a jewerly shop, still run 3 businesses. I AM NOT AN EXPERT, but i see COMC as having huge potential. I would hate to see them miss a chance to capitalize on something that doesnt happen daily........ A GREAT IDEA!

When younger i had many good ideas but was to young and inexperienced to understand timing,customers are more important then ME.... an opportunity doesnt wait for anyone.

They are eliminating the lower end customers with the structure fee . A card business needs the lower end younger customers to groom into the future of their own business. Kinda like McDonalds "kids meals", they 'hook" the kids into mcdonalds by losing money on kids meals but "groom" and instill the "need" of mcdonalds for LIFE!

High end cards are for old farts(like me) and they will tapper off in the long run(OLD PEOPLE DONT ALL USE COMPUTERS YET). The younger generation ALL depend on computers and are the user market that should be targeted now so when they are high rollers COMC will ROCK, not the old fazing out analog high end user.

COMC is a great idea!

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I agree H4auto, although there's more to the McD's Happy Meal analogy you used. I believe the main reason McDonalds has happy meals with toys is so the parents "have" to take their kids there and in turn, buy meals themselves.

This has always been a good discussion on how we think COMC could be better. Let's keep it up and hopefully the powers that be still visit here and listen.
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I agree H4auto, although there's more to the McD's Happy Meal analogy you used. I believe the main reason McDonalds has happy meals with toys is so the parents "have" to take their kids there and in turn, buy meals themselves.

This has always been a good discussion on how we think COMC could be better. Let's keep it up and hopefully the powers that be still visit here and listen.

I totally understand where You and other High end users are coming from. When i first found COMC a few months ago, i thought that the prices for amount of work was a great value and I personally would never do that much work for that low price.

I was going to utilize COMC for low end stuff. But with the fee changes it is not worth me sending in lower end cars(BV $2-10). Also, when buying on COMC i had a first shippent sent of about 400 cards, before shipment i was buying all types of cards because the shipment cost was capped and it wouldnt hurt buying a .10 card if the shipment was already absorbed by the other cards. But now, buying a .10 card wouldnt make sense if it cost more to ship it. Currently i am using up my account money and have about 350 cards ready to ship, if a shipping cap was the same, i would be buying anything and just adding the lower end cards to my order. I will be using COMC at the current fee structure but not for selling and my buying will be much less.

Nice discussion, and hope COMC reads all of this and finds a balanced fee structure to keep all the members and consumers.

AGAIN, COMC IS A AWESOME IDEA. I WOULD INVEST IN THIS COMPANY!

COMC, if your bored,tired or need investment capitol. I am interested!
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I totally understand where You and other High end users are coming from. When i first found COMC a few months ago, i thought that the prices for amount of work was a great value and I personally would never do that much work for that low price.

I was going to utilize COMC for low end stuff. But with the fee changes it is not worth me sending in lower end cars(BV $2-10). Also, when buying on COMC i had a first shippent sent of about 400 cards, before shipment i was buying all types of cards because the shipment cost was capped and it wouldnt hurt buying a .10 card if the shipment was already absorbed by the other cards. But now, buying a .10 card wouldnt make sense if it cost more to ship it. Currently i am using up my account money and have about 350 cards ready to ship, if a shipping cap was the same, i would be buying anything and just adding the lower end cards to my order. I will be using COMC at the current fee structure but not for selling and my buying will be much less.

Nice discussion, and hope COMC reads all of this and finds a balanced fee structure to keep all the members and consumers.

AGAIN, COMC IS A AWESOME IDEA. I WOULD INVEST IN THIS COMPANY!

COMC, if your bored,tired or need investment capitol. I am interested!
Go ahead and send them in, I'd be happy to buy one of these $10 cars you mention...
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Maybe they should have two separate companies...COMC.high-end, and COMC.low-end. They could charge the "tax" on the higher-end site and run things just like now on the lower-end card site. Then they could see which system runs better and makes their bottom line more attractive.

Can you imagine having a site that has cards with a minimum worth/asking price of $25 and only having to pay a flat shipping fee of $3.00? All cards being sent to the high-end site would have a higher listing fee, but would take priority over the low-end cards being listed on the other site.

I honestly believe that if they don't do all they can to make people happy, a competitor will come along that will ONLY specialize in higher-end cards. Patent pending technology or not, someone will find a way to compete more efficiently I'm sorry to say.
The higher-end company is called Ebay I think it is safe to say that you and EELindy have the high dollar market cornered. With all the horror stories on the way they ship the cards I will never send them any high end cards. I can simply sell them on Ebay and make more. I primarily sell Baseball and Hockey so I do not have as many concerns with the crazy buyers on Ebay.
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This has always been a good discussion on how we think COMC could be better. Let's keep it up and hopefully the powers that be still visit here and listen.
I must say his reply back to me was not very promising!

"We have been throwing around some ideas for a budget shipping service. I will probably discuss that on the blowout cards forum in the next month or so.



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