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Old 10-05-2012, 10:17 AM   #101 (permalink)
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SHOCKING that a zero FB winner won it.

What are the chances on that.

Looks as if the 2nd hi bidder might have been legit.

Hope he tells seller to pound sand when the 2nd hi bidder offer comes
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:18 AM   #102 (permalink)
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The bidder before him has a bid rating of 1649....For 2755.....He'll sell it to one of those 2.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:18 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Shilled much?
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:19 AM   #104 (permalink)
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It's crazy how much it jumped. If I were him and it was sitting at 1,300 and I was looking for 2,100 or 2,500 or whatever, I would've ended it with 12 hours left. Aint no way I would've let that sit at that low amount.

If nothing else, let the local card store sell it online. As least they would have some positive feedback. But he got what he wanted (or looks to get what he wanted provided the winner pays). So it's all good for him.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:21 AM   #105 (permalink)
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STOP looking at the numbers.

the LAST real, actual bid was $1525. If 2nd place pays 1 more cent than that he/she should be committed.

The 0 shill bidder probably bid $3,000 because that was what OP wanted.
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STOP looking at the numbers.

the LAST real, actual bid was $1525. If 2nd place pays 1 more cent than that he/she should be committed.

The 0 shill bidder probably bid $3,000 because that was what OP wanted.
There was a $2,755 bid also. Otherwise the card wouldn't have jumped. BTW, why are you claiming this to be shill bidding? I looked at the numbers and none of the bidders have more than like 2% with this seller, except for one. He has 11%, but only has 16 bids in his lifespan.

This could've been someone that created a username last night because they wanted this card. If you look at his history, he's already bidding on other cards too.
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The $2755 was 2nd's max bid, so he shouldn't pay $2755, he should only pay the minimum to beat the 3rd bidder since the last bid from the 0 feedback sure seems pretty flimsy.

The fact that he's bidding on other stuff doesn't really say much... as anyone wanting to hide a shill would just go bid on other things.
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There was a $2,755 bid also. Otherwise the card wouldn't have jumped. BTW, why are you claiming this to be shill bidding? I looked at the numbers and none of the bidders have more than like 2% with this seller, except for one. He has 11%, but only has 16 bids in his lifespan.

This could've been someone that created a username last night because they wanted this card. If you look at his history, he's already bidding on other cards too.

The person who "won" the card, in my opinion, involved with the OP.

The last LEGIT bis was $1525 placed at 10:13.44 EST. He had a Max of $2755 so when the 0 bidder shills it up to probably $3,000 it stops at the next highest increment os $2805.

If the 0 FB bidder does not bid it ends at $1525

If you read any of OP ranting about what the card is "worth" you will see why I believe the 0 FB is a shill for OP.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:32 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Assuming you don't get paid, do the smart thing and list this BIN/OBO - odds are some zero feedback idiot will continue to ensure you don't get paid.

I agree this was most likely shilled at the last second.

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Congrats the OP probably won his own card. Great snipe at the end.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:51 AM   #111 (permalink)
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who would end an auction at 10:00 on a friday morning on a big money card? total failure
Still baffled by this as well.
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Still baffled by this as well.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:56 AM   #113 (permalink)
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We will see it re listed very soon! Either the (2755) was a legit supercollector and the OP had someone bid (0) at last minute trying to get 3000 or both are not legit and 2755 was the shill and (0) was just someone messing around. I guess will never know, but the seller is a moron! He first listed without Finest in the title then had to end and re list and then he ends at 10am on a Friday. This seller seems to not know what he is doing and he the seller gets 15% so they probably had it jacked up. OP wanted to get 2500 so he jacks it to 3000 so Op still gets his 2500 after commission.
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Even 2k for a non auto would be lucky, 2800 lol, nope do not believe it for one second

Ebay is really dead right now, bad as I have seen in the 5 years I have dealt there. and those buying are mainly resellers on big ticket items who wanna flip. And most big ticket buyers snipe or hold their bid until the last second to maximize their return. With that said there is not one high end buyer i know who would throw down 2800 on this card, do a screen shot of where he made payment and shut me up OP, or else you got BUSTED lol

2800 for that card is as ignorant if not worse than the 4,100/2days left for the one below. STUPID people OMG lol

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Old 10-05-2012, 02:26 PM   #115 (permalink)
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's re-listed by this seller or re-listed under another ID...looks like a $2700 "legit" offer got bumped because this idiot just couldn't stop being greedy and $1500 just wasn't enough.
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The person who "won" the card, in my opinion, involved with the OP.

The last LEGIT bis was $1525 placed at 10:13.44 EST. He had a Max of $2755 so when the 0 bidder shills it up to probably $3,000 it stops at the next highest increment os $2805.

If the 0 FB bidder does not bid it ends at $1525

If you read any of OP ranting about what the card is "worth" you will see why I believe the 0 FB is a shill for OP.
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:09 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Let me throw this conspiracy at you...

The winning bidder is not a newly registered account. If it were there would be a little gold star thingy by the id. IMO the OP is to nieve to have a 2nd account. (nothing wrong with multiple ids as long as they aren't interfering with the other ids.)

I'm thinking somone is purposely messing with the auction to make it appear shilled so when it comes back up for sale the sellers name is tarnished, and he can get it cheaper.

The card receive a lot of publicity on this site. Everyone was watching to see what happened since the seller "got greedy". Now everyone thinks it was "shilled" when in reality the OP may have nothing at all
to do with it. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a member so devious as to pull something like this.

I smell a rat, but I don't think it's OP.

Who knows. It could turn out legit as well.

And if I'm wrong oh well. Wouldn't be the first time. It just irks me when conclusions are jumped to.
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Let me throw this conspiracy at you...

The winning bidder is not a newly registered account. If it were there would be a little gold star thingy by the id. IMO the OP is to nieve to have a 2nd account. (nothing wrong with multiple ids as long as they aren't interfering with the other ids.)

I'm thinking somone is purposely messing with the auction to make it appear shilled so when it comes back up for sale the sellers name is tarnished, and he can get it cheaper.

The card receive a lot of publicity on this site. Everyone was watching to see what happened since the seller "got greedy". Now everyone thinks it was "shilled" when in reality the OP may have nothing at all
to do with it. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a member so devious as to pull something like this.

I smell a rat, but I don't think it's OP.

Who knows. It could turn out legit as well.

And if I'm wrong oh well. Wouldn't be the first time. It just irks me when conclusions are jumped to.
this wouldnt suprise me one bit
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this wouldnt suprise me one bit
I mean seriously. How many shillers snipe at 7 seconds? If OP were using that bid as a "reserve" it would've been placed earlier.
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I mean seriously. How many shillers snipe at 7 seconds? If OP were using that bid as a "reserve" it would've been placed earlier.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:50 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Id add this conspiracy theory in there...The 0 feedback " winner" is a member from these very boards, who is just trying to piss the OP off because of all his repeated threads about this card????

HHHMMM..may even be posting in this thread right now...how about that for "Magic Bulllett" ?????
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Id add this conspiracy theory in there...The 0 feedback " winner" is a member from these very boards, who is just trying to piss the OP off because of all his repeated threads about this card????

HHHMMM..may even be posting in this thread right now...how about that for "Magic Bulllett" ?????
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Hmmmmm.....I wonder who here would have any motivation to try and make the seller look bad.........
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Still baffled by this as well.
I actually think this was a genius move; I saw the ending time as well, and quickly thought I could get a steal! I'm sure everyone else that saw the ending time thought the same thing I did, and watched it closely to get a good snipe. Idk. Weird move, but kind of out of the box thinking. I would love to hear thoughts about the ending time.
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I actually think this was a genius move; I saw the ending time as well, and quickly thought I could get a steal! I'm sure everyone else that saw the ending time thought the same thing I did, and watched it closely to get a good snipe. Idk. Weird move, but kind of out of the box thinking. I would love to hear thoughts about the ending time.
I'm guessing it wasn't planned. I wouldn't try it myself, but I think with this high caliber of a card that it really didn't make that much of a difference. There were enough people that noticed it. I would guess there were a few snipes set at 3 or 4 seconds that didn't show up because the 7 second snipe beat them.
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