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Old 02-04-2011, 03:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Contemplating getting ud black or playoff contenders, 2009. For black, I love the on card auto concept, and no redemptions, worried about paying 100 bucks for four scrubs... For contenders I love that you get more autos and inserts, but worried about the quality of the product, again at 100 bucks (all after shipping).

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UD Black - Most boxes yield two rookie autos (in their college unis, to boot). Yeesh.
'09 Contenders - Terrible design. 'Nuff said.

Pass on both products.
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Cool... Good to know. So as an addendum, if not either of those, anyone else have a suggestion on what to bust for a hundred bucks? Looking for opportunity to pull cool looking cards... 2009 preferrable... Maybe bowman chrome? Or maybe 2008 spx?
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i actually liked contenders football from 09 only problem some of the autos bubbled from the type of marker used. never busted 09 black but you can get some nice cards from it.

just remember when buying your box don't expect to get a huge hit everytime. every product is hit and miss there is not one product where they dont put scrubs in.

i say if your first inclination was one of the 2 boxes you listed above just flip a coin and pick your box. last but not least good luck!
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UD Black - Most boxes yield two rookie autos (in their college unis, to boot). Yeesh.
'09 Contenders - Terrible design. 'Nuff said.

Pass on both products.
i actually liked 09 contenders design alot guess that all just depends on the person
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Once you go Black you never go back.
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I've been contemplating the same thing. I missed out on the last two years and wanted to catch up. Black looks amazing and Contenders is always a solid product. BO has a lot of solid 09 boxes still available so I'm trying to determine the best route to go.
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
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UD Black by far because even tho the odds arent in your favor to not hit a rookie (there are only 2 or 3 boxes per 10-box case that wont yield a rookie auto), the hits are absolutely gorgeous when you DO hit a vet/legend. Black cards simply look nicer and the base flag patches sell. of course the risk is there for a massive loss but which box isnt these days. if you want the fun of rippin tho, go with contenders since there are more packs

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Once you go Black you never go back.
I actually laughed when I saw that.
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Contemplating getting ud black or playoff contenders, 2009. For black, I love the on card auto concept, and no redemptions, worried about paying 100 bucks for four scrubs... For contenders I love that you get more autos and inserts, but worried about the quality of the product, again at 100 bucks (all after shipping).

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Black didn't have any redemptions?
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Old 02-04-2011, 05:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Leaning towards ud black right now... It'll be my first hit-or-miss style break (a la exquisite or ultimate)... i just dont think i'm feelin the foilboard on the contenders or the hard-to-read autos i hear about. ill decide by tonight and buy from blowout (assuming they still have stock!)

Last chance to convince me otherwise!!

Ps, as far as I know, the "no redemptions" fact was one of the key selling points of black... Plus all on-card autos
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Black for me...if I ever wanted to rip any 09.
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Old 02-04-2011, 11:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'd say black even though I haven't busted either. Even though I like quantity over quality when it comes to amount of packs, I like black's design.
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:14 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I have really like the Black product. I like the design and look of the card, the only issue I have with it is that a majority of the boxes have 2 rookie autos. I would like to see them with a rookie auto and a different sort of auto paired with it.
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Done! Ordered a box of black... And since two packs will just NOT do, I've also got a box of 2010 chrome on the way too. Will post in the breaks section regardless of if I get anything legit or bums!
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I think you made a good choice! Quality and quantity!
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the encouragement guys! Got my boxes in and posted the break and photos on the breaks forum. The highlights quickly:

Ud black:
- dwayne bowe lustrious auto ( /50)
- mike wallace rookie auto ( /399)

Chrome
- tebow base, bradford base
- tony dorsett refractor ( /99)
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sweet! you dodged a double rookie box of Black,a nd hit a nice rookie and a vet hit. is the lustrous dual patch as well?

also, did your box of chrome not yield an auto?
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah man, I'm pretty stoked that there was a vet auto, after hearing they were few and far between... And yes, it is a dual patch! Even better they are both two-color red-and-gold... I've seen some on ebay that have single color patches, which are a bummer. The wallace was a nice second pull too, for sure! I was totally expecting like a 5th round kicker, with my usual luck.

Also, yes, the chrome did have an auto of dez... Briscoe. I think, unfortunately, that's not a super great hit... Oh well, can't win em all I guess.
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Yeah man, I'm pretty stoked that there was a vet auto, after hearing they were few and far between... And yes, it is a dual patch! Even better they are both two-color red-and-gold... I've seen some on ebay that have single color patches, which are a bummer. The wallace was a nice second pull too, for sure! I was totally expecting like a 5th round kicker, with my usual luck.

Also, yes, the chrome did have an auto of dez... Briscoe. I think, unfortunately, that's not a super great hit... Oh well, can't win em all I guess.
Nice break I'd say. Post some scans or pics!
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MI Rob! Here ya go, bud... I also figured I'd throw in a hit from a random Contenders Pack... REALLY hoping he's one of the SP's, but judging from rumors, I'm thinking probably not.

Let me know what you think. I think the patches are pretty nice.. good mix of gold and red!
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Great looking cards. That Dwayne Bowe has to be one of the nicest looking cards I've seen ever.
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I love those lustrous cards, I wish I had the money to put a set together. I managed to get a Manning from the one box of Black I got and it's easily one of my five favorite PC cards
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