Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco?

ManInTheMirror · 06-10-2011, 08:10 PM

I was going to make another "With the next pick in the ____ draft..." thread but going over the QB class of 2008 it pretty much comes down to only two guys. You need a QB so who would you rather have?

38stud · 06-10-2011, 08:12 PM

Wow! This is a good one. I still can't decide who to vote for.

joan1173 · 06-10-2011, 08:12 PM

Id have to go flacco on this one. Im impressed with the way he has played the past few years and he has shown that he can be a threat in the playoffs each year.

I really like Matt Ryan as well, but i would have to choose flacco.

cromartie3145 · 06-10-2011, 08:17 PM

You really can not go wrong with either one of them, so I voted for Ryan since he had less votes.

Cades · 06-10-2011, 08:18 PM

Matt Ryan, representing BC

49erFan · 06-10-2011, 08:26 PM

Ryan for me. He has that killer instinct and is called Matty Ice for a reason. He's one of the best pure pocket passers in league. I do like Flacco too and think he's vastly under rated, but I'd take Ryan over him.

jamuser304 · 06-10-2011, 08:39 PM

Matt Ryan in the regular season, and Joe Flacco in the post season.

Kent Clements · 06-10-2011, 08:46 PM

Matty Ice is the one !!!

Kent

ManInTheMirror · 06-10-2011, 09:06 PM

I really thought the voting would be closer than it is. Other QBs from this class: Brian Brohm, Chad Henne, Kevin O'Connell, John David Booty, Dennis Dixon, Josh Johnson, Erik Ainge, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, Matt Flynn, Alex Brink, Caleb Hanie.

49erFan · 06-10-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ManInTheMirror

I really thought the voting would be closer than it is. Other QBs from this class: Brian Brohm, Chad Henne, Kevin O'Connell, John David Booty, Dennis Dixon, Josh Johnson, Erik Ainge, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, Matt Flynn, Alex Brink, Caleb Hanie.

Really wish the Packers would be more willing to trade Flynn, I like what he showed when he got the nod.

taffaej · 06-10-2011, 11:28 PM

IMO Flacco is a little better and has a better shot at getting deeper in the playoffs any year and this is from a Steelers fan.

Razorsharp79 · 06-10-2011, 11:44 PM

Flacco has never shown me anything, one of the most overrated QBs I can think of to date. Not to mention one of the most over valued QBs in the hobby. Put Tom Brady on that team and they are a legit contender with that D.

dew0514 · 06-11-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Razorsharp79

Flacco has never shown me anything, one of the most overrated QBs I can think of to date. Not to mention one of the most over valued QBs in the hobby. Put Tom Brady on that team and they are a legit contender with that D.

I totally agree!

stang8689 · 06-11-2011, 01:00 AM

I think Ryan is better, Flacco has more sucess because his team is better especially defense. You put Ryan on the Ravens I bet they wouldn't of blown a 3 TD lead against the Steelers in the playoffs. I still like Joe and think he has big upside and he's from DE where I live lol

Nehmer187 · 06-11-2011, 01:43 AM

Ryan hands down...he rarely loses at home, is good in pressure situations, and has a lot better accuracy when throwing the ball long thats for sure

Ravens_Cards · 06-11-2011, 09:34 AM

Their stats are similar. Ryan is better in some categories, Flacco is better in others. What it comes down to is winning. Can anyone tell me off the top of their head how many TD passes Peyton Manning threw the year they won the SB? Probably not. Flacco has gotten better each year he's been in the league and has taken the Ravens to the playoffs and won at least 1 game in each of his first 3 seasons while Ryan has failed to win 1 playoff game. Being a Ravens fan of course I'm going to say Flacco but honestly they are both great QB's and will both be in the top 10 in the league for years to come.

Just wanted to say that the Ravens defense is not what it once was. The argument that the 'D' is the reason behind Flacco's success is not valid. Hell, look at the game vs. Atlanta last year, Flacco goes on a long drive and hits Heap for a TD with just over a minute left and the defense blows it even though it should have been a penalty on Roddy White.

MasterPattie · 06-11-2011, 10:41 AM

Ryan hands down.

But they're both overrated.

Razorsharp79 · 06-11-2011, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterPattie

Ryan hands down.

But they're both overrated.

I completely agree with this statement. Their prices in the hobby vs what they have accomplished is highly over priced as well IMO.

MasterPattie · 06-11-2011, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorsharp79

I completely agree with this statement. Their prices in the hobby vs what they have accomplished is highly over priced as well IMO.

Oh yeah. I'd rather have Brady, Rodgers, Vick, P.Manning, Brees, Big Ben, E.Manning, Schaub, Rivers, or Romo rather than Ryan or Flacco. Thus, Ryan and Flacco aren't even in my top 10 NFL QBs (they are just outside the top 10, however).

I also think Bradford will be better than both Ryan and Flacco as well.

YanksBillsFan · 06-11-2011, 11:15 AM

As much as I love Flacco (watched him at UD), I'd rather have Ryan. Both are impressive talents and should have solid careers.

barberromo2008 · 06-11-2011, 01:45 PM

I love Flacco, but I truly think that Ryan is a player that can get me to the playoffs, or that will come through in a crunch.

wheeler281 · 06-11-2011, 07:24 PM

The broadacst team in Baltimore really defines flacco They really lay into Flacco. It really starts at 1:41 and 5:37

That being said Matt Ryan hands down

tolrobb · 06-11-2011, 07:26 PM

both overrated. give me ryan if you're gonna make me pick.

ManInTheMirror · 06-14-2011, 11:48 PM

Wow, not even close at all.

ckcardz · 06-15-2011, 12:30 AM

you should make a with the first pick in the draft for the 2009 draft with the top 10 players from that year and see who people now would of taken first overall

View Poll Results: Who would you rather have?
Matt Ryan	94	71.21%
Joe Flacco	38	28.79%
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06-10-2011, 08:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
ManInTheMirror Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 23,353	Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco? I was going to make another "With the next pick in the ____ draft..." thread but going over the QB class of 2008 it pretty much comes down to only two guys. You need a QB so who would you rather have?

06-10-2011, 08:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
joan1173 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Coppell, Texas Posts: 2,836 joan1173	Id have to go flacco on this one. Im impressed with the way he has played the past few years and he has shown that he can be a threat in the playoffs each year. I really like Matt Ryan as well, but i would have to choose flacco. __________________ Buying Super Bowl Ticket Autos from the 2010 Contenders Set!!! http://s1213.beta.photobucket.com/user/joank1173/library/

06-10-2011, 08:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
cromartie3145 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Catonsville, Maryland Posts: 5,398 cromartie3145	You really can not go wrong with either one of them, so I voted for Ryan since he had less votes. __________________ TOP PRIORITY (PC): Brock Osweiler and Contenders Autos My Bucket: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62033527@N04/?saved=1

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06-10-2011, 08:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
38stud Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,383	Wow! This is a good one. I still can't decide who to vote for.

06-10-2011, 08:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
49erFan Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: California Posts: 1,178	Ryan for me. He has that killer instinct and is called Matty Ice for a reason. He's one of the best pure pocket passers in league. I do like Flacco too and think he's vastly under rated, but I'd take Ryan over him. __________________ http://s800.photobucket.com/home/49erFan8280

06-10-2011, 08:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
jamuser304 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,367	Matt Ryan in the regular season, and Joe Flacco in the post season.

06-10-2011, 08:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kent Clements Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brockport , New York Posts: 1,616	Matty Ice is the one !!! Kent

06-10-2011, 09:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
ManInTheMirror Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 23,353	I really thought the voting would be closer than it is. Other QBs from this class: Brian Brohm, Chad Henne, Kevin O'Connell, John David Booty, Dennis Dixon, Josh Johnson, Erik Ainge, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, Matt Flynn, Alex Brink, Caleb Hanie.

06-10-2011, 11:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
taffaej Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 248	IMO Flacco is a little better and has a better shot at getting deeper in the playoffs any year and this is from a Steelers fan. __________________ Collecting low numbered autos / patches of Roethlisberger, Brady, Flacco, Romo, Steelers, Ravens. Occationally an icon pickup (i.e. Aikman, Bradshaw). Prefer /50 or less

06-10-2011, 11:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Razorsharp79 Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,752	Flacco has never shown me anything, one of the most overrated QBs I can think of to date. Not to mention one of the most over valued QBs in the hobby. Put Tom Brady on that team and they are a legit contender with that D.

06-11-2011, 01:00 AM	#14 (permalink)
stang8689 Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 165	I think Ryan is better, Flacco has more sucess because his team is better especially defense. You put Ryan on the Ravens I bet they wouldn't of blown a 3 TD lead against the Steelers in the playoffs. I still like Joe and think he has big upside and he's from DE where I live lol

06-11-2011, 01:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
Nehmer187 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Valdosta, GA Posts: 1,733 ryd0gg187	Ryan hands down...he rarely loses at home, is good in pressure situations, and has a lot better accuracy when throwing the ball long thats for sure __________________ CHECK MY BUCKET http://s72.photobucket.com/home/nehmer187/index

06-11-2011, 09:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
Ravens_Cards Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 119	Their stats are similar. Ryan is better in some categories, Flacco is better in others. What it comes down to is winning. Can anyone tell me off the top of their head how many TD passes Peyton Manning threw the year they won the SB? Probably not. Flacco has gotten better each year he's been in the league and has taken the Ravens to the playoffs and won at least 1 game in each of his first 3 seasons while Ryan has failed to win 1 playoff game. Being a Ravens fan of course I'm going to say Flacco but honestly they are both great QB's and will both be in the top 10 in the league for years to come. Just wanted to say that the Ravens defense is not what it once was. The argument that the 'D' is the reason behind Flacco's success is not valid. Hell, look at the game vs. Atlanta last year, Flacco goes on a long drive and hits Heap for a TD with just over a minute left and the defense blows it even though it should have been a penalty on Roddy White. __________________ Ravens & Baltimore Colts in NFL's Top 100: Lenny Moore-Jim Parker-Raymond Berry-John Mackey-Ed Reed-Jonathan Ogden-Rod Woodson-Ray Lewis-Johnny Unitas

06-11-2011, 07:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
tolrobb Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,017 Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose!	both overrated. give me ryan if you're gonna make me pick. __________________ "A Satellite laser? We just might have a chance. The targeting device is on the roof. Come on, there is no time to lose!" http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h157/tolrobb/For%20Sale/?start=all

06-11-2011, 10:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
MasterPattie Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ohio (but originally from Michigan) Posts: 6,239 1stroundpick	Ryan hands down. But they're both overrated.

06-11-2011, 11:15 AM	#20 (permalink)
YanksBillsFan Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,614	As much as I love Flacco (watched him at UD), I'd rather have Ryan. Both are impressive talents and should have solid careers. __________________ Collecting: Brett Gardner (26) latest add - 2011 Marquee Museum auto /10 Ian Kennedy (31) latest add - 2011 Marquee Museum auto /10

06-11-2011, 01:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
barberromo2008 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 5,709 sportscloset12	I love Flacco, but I truly think that Ryan is a player that can get me to the playoffs, or that will come through in a crunch. __________________ Collecting 2008 Select Inscriptions and Dallas Cowboys

06-11-2011, 07:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
wheeler281 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,131 wheeler281 wheeler281	The broadacst team in Baltimore really defines flacco They really lay into Flacco. It really starts at 1:41 and 5:37 That being said Matt Ryan hands down __________________ Collecting- Rod Woodson, Troy Polamalu, Greg Lloyd, & James Harrision

06-14-2011, 11:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
ManInTheMirror Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 23,353	Wow, not even close at all.

06-15-2011, 12:30 AM	#25 (permalink)
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