better upside? stevan ridley or shane vereen?

LeonfromNC · 04-08-2012, 01:07 AM

both saw limited playing time last year, but i expect at least one of these two to have a breakout year in 2012. question is which one and why? imo im thinking ridley because from the games i did see him play he looked great AND i have pulled more of his cards out of 2011 product than anyone else, lol.

cruiserdaddy7 · 04-08-2012, 01:09 AM

I think Ridley played well when he got the time. The Patriots backfield seems like the ultimate coin flip. And who is to say someone else doesn't further cloud the situation.

jamuser304 · 04-08-2012, 01:17 AM

Depending on what you mean by "breakout," I'm going to go with neither. With a depleted receiving corp, the leading rusher for the Pats had <700 yards. Now that they loaded up with receivers even before the draft, chances remain slim that any of the backs will break 1k in rushing.

bjge_42 · 04-08-2012, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jamuser304

Depending on what you mean by "breakout," I'm going to go with neither. With a depleted receiving corp, the leading rusher for the Pats had <700 yards. Now that they loaded up with receivers even before the draft, chances remain slim that any of the backs will break 1k in rushing.

Gronkowski, Hernandez, Welker, and Branch is a depleted receiving corps?

lol.

newton615 · 04-08-2012, 01:42 AM

vereens gonna kill it, hes blazing fast and wicked elusive, but ridleys not going to be a scrub theyll have a deangelo williams/ jonathan stuart circa 3 years ago thing goin on

jamuser304 · 04-08-2012, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bjge_42

Gronkowski, Hernandez, Welker, and Branch is a depleted receiving corps?

lol.

Depth is a key factor. Who stepped in for Branch when he was injured at the end of the regular season? No one. They even struggled offensively with Gronkowski injured. If no one can step in when a player gets injured or needs a rest, I consider it depleted. This is why they loaded up on receiver this offseason. To add depth.

ninjacookies · 04-08-2012, 04:28 AM

Ridley, imo. Strong, tough as nails, and can bowl people over.

fisk-factor75 · 04-08-2012, 04:34 AM

I think Belichek will use Ridley and Vareen as a Thunder/Lightning approach. From a hobby angle the Lightning usually gets the most props.

hugh · 04-08-2012, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bjge_42

Gronkowski, Hernandez, Welker, and Branch is a depleted receiving corps?

lol.

2 of them are TE's

pats4dawin · 04-08-2012, 10:53 AM

I think that Belichick likes Ridley more, he has used him more with BJGE on the team and Vereen didn't see much time so I think that says something. The only downside to Ridley is the couple of fumbles he had late in the year...personally I think Ridley has a better chance but it could go either way.

ssbledsoe · 04-08-2012, 12:05 PM

Vereen had a hamstring injury at the beginning of camp and nagged him all year long. Ridley performed well when given opportunities, but doesn't carry the ball "high and tight" and gives plenty of opportunities to get stripped.
Ultimately, it's BB and who knows who he'll feature from week to week. Vereen has the big play ability with his speed and elusiveness. Ridley will get the goal line touches. The hobby tends to reward the big playmakers over the TD vulchers. However, as someone else stated, it could be a "thunder and lightning" approach. I think they both will have good games and see some hobby love. I've bought plenty of both

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bjge_42 · 04-08-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hugh

2 of them are TE's

Yes... and?

LeonfromNC · 04-09-2012, 12:18 AM

well for my sake i hope ridley pans out... i saw this and just had to have it. got it for $87 delivered it'd #d out of 49... good deal or did i pay too much?

gottagitdemjs · 04-09-2012, 12:39 AM

I'd say neither. You watch. Somehow Belichik will get the Vikings to trade a gimpy Adrian Peterson to New England for some magic beans or no longer used video equipment.

longhrncardshop · 04-09-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LeonfromNC

well for my sake i hope ridley pans out... i saw this and just had to have it. got it for $87 delivered it'd #d out of 49... good deal or did i pay too much?

nice card man!

LeonfromNC · 04-10-2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gottagitdemjs

I'd say neither. You watch. Somehow Belichik will get the Vikings to trade a gimpy Adrian Peterson to New England for some magic beans or no longer used video equipment.

lol, i hope not. I'm a Vikings fan!

gonzagacubs · 04-10-2012, 01:27 PM

Patriots are not a running team. I imagine it will be difficult for either to have a "breakout" year for a team who is likely to throw the ball 40 times a game.

MasterPattie · 04-10-2012, 01:29 PM

I'd say Ridley.

Cactuspies · 04-10-2012, 01:49 PM

I am also on the Neither bandwagon. Watching them week in and week out you just don't know who is going to carry the ball or how many times. Since they lost dillon and drafted maroney, it's been a musical chair of running backs. I thought LawFirm was solid and was shocked they didn't keep him for the little amount of money it would have taken to keep him. If everyone on offsense is healthy, I see them passing and passing and passing like the 18-1 season, and running at the end when it's needed for the cold or stonger defensive teams.

LeonfromNC · 04-10-2012, 03:33 PM

well with BenJarvus Green-Ellis gone, it opens the door for both backs to play a lot more and although BJGE only had 667 yards last year with 11 TDs, he did have 1,008 yards with 13 TDs the year before, so if either Ridley or Vereen can bring that production this year, I'd be happy with those numbers...

04-08-2012, 01:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
LeonfromNC Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 1,637 leonssportscardsandmore	better upside? stevan ridley or shane vereen? both saw limited playing time last year, but i expect at least one of these two to have a breakout year in 2012. question is which one and why? imo im thinking ridley because from the games i did see him play he looked great AND i have pulled more of his cards out of 2011 product than anyone else, lol.

04-08-2012, 01:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
newton615 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: boston Posts: 3,169 newton6151	vereens gonna kill it, hes blazing fast and wicked elusive, but ridleys not going to be a scrub theyll have a deangelo williams/ jonathan stuart circa 3 years ago thing goin on __________________ In Bill We Trust

04-08-2012, 04:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
fisk-factor75 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 790	I think Belichek will use Ridley and Vareen as a Thunder/Lightning approach. From a hobby angle the Lightning usually gets the most props. __________________ I work midnight shift, so please understand if I do not respond to pms in the mornings Bucket:http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x259/astromutt/

04-08-2012, 10:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
pats4dawin Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,762 vicnorth27	I think that Belichick likes Ridley more, he has used him more with BJGE on the team and Vereen didn't see much time so I think that says something. The only downside to Ridley is the couple of fumbles he had late in the year...personally I think Ridley has a better chance but it could go either way. __________________ http://s1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb390/pats4dawin/Football%20FT_FS/?start=0 Lmk if you have any PATRIOTS (current) FT/FS!

04-08-2012, 12:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
ssbledsoe Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,332 ssbledsoe	Vereen had a hamstring injury at the beginning of camp and nagged him all year long. Ridley performed well when given opportunities, but doesn't carry the ball "high and tight" and gives plenty of opportunities to get stripped. Ultimately, it's BB and who knows who he'll feature from week to week. Vereen has the big play ability with his speed and elusiveness. Ridley will get the goal line touches. The hobby tends to reward the big playmakers over the TD vulchers. However, as someone else stated, it could be a "thunder and lightning" approach. I think they both will have good games and see some hobby love. I've bought plenty of both . __________________ Current Needs: Drew Bledsoe 2009 BTL Auto's O,T,S; Buybacks; Butler Bulldogs (Gordon Hayward, Shelvin Mack, Matt Howard); Looking for the following: Alfonzo Dennard '12 TC Superfractor; Chandler Jones '12 TC and Bowman Sterling Superfractors; Please PM me with details

04-08-2012, 01:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
cruiserdaddy7 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,011 Panini makes garbage products	I think Ridley played well when he got the time. The Patriots backfield seems like the ultimate coin flip. And who is to say someone else doesn't further cloud the situation.

04-08-2012, 01:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
jamuser304 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,368	Depending on what you mean by "breakout," I'm going to go with neither. With a depleted receiving corp, the leading rusher for the Pats had <700 yards. Now that they loaded up with receivers even before the draft, chances remain slim that any of the backs will break 1k in rushing.

04-08-2012, 04:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: West Coast, formerly Mother Russia Posts: 3,908	Ridley, imo. Strong, tough as nails, and can bowl people over.

04-09-2012, 12:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
LeonfromNC Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 1,637 leonssportscardsandmore	well for my sake i hope ridley pans out... i saw this and just had to have it. got it for $87 delivered it'd #d out of 49... good deal or did i pay too much?

04-09-2012, 12:39 AM	#14 (permalink)
gottagitdemjs Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,531 tigerwoods3423	I'd say neither. You watch. Somehow Belichik will get the Vikings to trade a gimpy Adrian Peterson to New England for some magic beans or no longer used video equipment. __________________ My Bucket: http://s528.photobucket.com/albums/dd324/gottagitdemjs/

04-10-2012, 01:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
gonzagacubs Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 670 gonzagacubs	Patriots are not a running team. I imagine it will be difficult for either to have a "breakout" year for a team who is likely to throw the ball 40 times a game. __________________ Photobucket: http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/gonzagacubs/

04-10-2012, 01:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
MasterPattie Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ohio (but originally from Michigan) Posts: 6,242 1stroundpick	I'd say Ridley.

04-10-2012, 01:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
Cactuspies Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: A Sand Castle in the Arizona Desert Posts: 4,580 azpatssox09 azsoxpatriots	I am also on the Neither bandwagon. Watching them week in and week out you just don't know who is going to carry the ball or how many times. Since they lost dillon and drafted maroney, it's been a musical chair of running backs. I thought LawFirm was solid and was shocked they didn't keep him for the little amount of money it would have taken to keep him. If everyone on offsense is healthy, I see them passing and passing and passing like the 18-1 season, and running at the end when it's needed for the cold or stonger defensive teams. __________________ #Teamconnor #BostonStrong Doubront/Pierre Thomas/Nate Thurmond Thread/Post Grading is back!!! http://www.comc.com/Users/azsoxpatriots -->20% auto accept everyday! http://www.sportlots.com/inven/invenbin/dealerpage.tpl?dealer=AzPats10 RIP Mom 10/8/09, PAPAJIM 11/22/10, Madbacker 4/3/13 & CBO (banned not passed)

04-10-2012, 03:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
LeonfromNC Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 1,637 leonssportscardsandmore	well with BenJarvus Green-Ellis gone, it opens the door for both backs to play a lot more and although BJGE only had 667 yards last year with 11 TDs, he did have 1,008 yards with 13 TDs the year before, so if either Ridley or Vereen can bring that production this year, I'd be happy with those numbers...

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