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Old 09-19-2012, 04:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So, I see a FS/FT thread and there is a card that I want. I am first to post in the thread saying i'll take it, 2 mins after he posts thread with a PM immediately following; saying i'll take it as well. I receive a PM telling me it's sold on youtube on already, sorry?? Now, he did have a youtube video up first, but my only complaint is why make the thread if the card is already gone. So, he is claiming in that two mins. the card already sold. Not saying it's not possible, just seemed very unlikely.

What i believe happened was that he had listed the card well under ebay and he was aware of it at some pt. as he made the statement how long do you think the card would last %50 under ebay...and now he wants to back out of the deal realizing his mistake. If i'm wrong I do apologize, but he could come up no other proof other than saying that his "friend on youtube" had purchased it. Now I inquired his "friend" about him saying I was trying to work out a deal and he was using him for a ref. His friend replies back yes, we have done many deals and the card was sold to me?!?

First off, I didn't even ask about the card, so obviously they have been going back and forth about it as well. Secondly all I asked for was the conversation between the two of them working out the deal before me...Now he could pm me back and forth and give me the tubers info and what not, but could not give me that conversation saying, "It was too much trouble." I have all PM's and thread saved. You be the judge, is member trying to pull a fast one?
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Um........so you "inquired" to his friend saying he was using him as a reference? Was this true or just a way for you get more information. IMO, who cares? He sold the card or changed his mind. Just because you post that you will buy it and PM him does not make the deal complete. Give up and move on.
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ummmm did you leave him a neg? is that how you got yours? he sold the card move on no reason for a neg
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What is most shady?

"Scammer, Backed out of deal to sell card for more!"

That is your neg to him. He did not deserve a neg. He did not deserve being called a scammer either (based off this situation). You are basing your words on assumptions and that is an incorrect thing to do.
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ok, i'll gladly remove it,if i was wrong, i let him that i would be making the thread,I Just felt like he was pulling a fast one, I also told him I apologized if I was wrong, but just asked him why make the FS thread if it was gone, in to which he could not give me an answer just saying sorry your not fast enough.
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Um........so you "inquired" to his friend saying he was using him as a reference? Was this true or just a way for you get more information. IMO, who cares? He sold the card or changed his mind. Just because you post that you will buy it and PM him does not make the deal complete. Give up and move on.
All I asked was if he had dealt with this guy before and if he was of good character, to which he responds, yes i have dealt with him many times and card was sold to me for $20.
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ummmm did you leave him a neg? is that how you got yours? he sold the card move on no reason for a neg
I see negs left all time for much less...hence your feedback.
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yeah, either way no deal was set in stone bud. just move on to the next card
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I made a Shady Move yesterday..

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yeah, either way no deal was set in stone bud. just move on to the next card
I've moved on, don't care about the card, it's the principal here peoples...Do we not have any morals anymore just cause it's the interwebs? So if someone lists an ebay listing way under value and you click buy it now, then they back out of the sale...would you leave a neg?
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if he sold it before you pm'd him that is not a scam that is just him being honest,
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OP, you deserve that card and the seller deserves a neg. you post a deal like that and the first post always takes it. thats how it works. stupid that these newbs come in and tries to do things differently...not how it works.
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if he sold it before you pm'd him that is not a scam that is just him being honest,
Like I said i let him know that I'd be making the thread and apologized if the sale was legit all I asked was the guy confirming he bought it before me, but it was too much trouble...
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OP, you deserve that card and the seller deserves a neg. you post a deal like that and the first post always takes it. thats how it works. stupid that these newbs come in and tries to do things differently...not how it works.
You apparently didn't read in detail. There is no proof what the seller is saying is not true. I have a hard time seeing it as okay to leave a neg based on speculation.

The seller might be lying, but you don't know for sure so a neg is a questionable move.
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OP, you deserve that card and the seller deserves a neg. you post a deal like that and the first post always takes it. thats how it works. stupid that these newbs come in and tries to do things differently...not how it works.
Good thing you aren't a mod...and I love you calling others newbs. When I saw you say that I went to look at your join date expecting 2010.......
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OP, you deserve that card and the seller deserves a neg. you post a deal like that and the first post always takes it. thats how it works. stupid that these newbs come in and tries to do things differently...not how it works.
TY, all i asked him is why make the thread if, card was gone...to which he had no response except be faster next time LOL.
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Good thing you aren't a mod...and I love you calling others newbs. When I saw you say that I went to look at your join date expecting 2010.......
difference is, i dont come on the forums and offer something for sale and deny the first person to accept the deal.
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TY, all i asked him is why make the thread if, card was gone...to which he had no response except be faster next time LOL.
Please don't use his post to justify your stance, his comment isn't even fully thought out based on the facts you've presented.
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Whatever I'm clearly wrong here and all I wanted to do was have the confirmation, tried to remove the neg, but not sure how.
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F-ing crybaby kids. Isn't school back in session yet?
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Whatever I'm clearly wrong here and all I wanted to do was have the confirmation, tried to remove the neg, but not sure how.
PM a mod they will take care of it. Hopefully yours can get removed as well and both sides can move on and just let this one go.
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difference is, i dont come on the forums and offer something for sale and deny the first person to accept the deal.
I have the right to deny the first person to accept, for whatever reason. That does not make me a newb. That makes me a seller in control. They are my cards afterall and I will sell them to whom I please.
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Whatever I'm clearly wrong here and all I wanted to do was have the confirmation, tried to remove the neg, but not sure how.
Exactly- and that is why leaving unwarrented negs is such a no-no. Nice going.
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TY, all i asked him is why make the thread if, card was gone...to which he had no response except be faster next time LOL.
so be faster i have had people message me when i post a sale and not write on the board, i have also had folks post at the same time having to take the lesser auto because of who posted first. Just dont see where neg. was warranted in opinion.
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How can anyone post a video of a card on youtube and 2 minutes later its sold on youtube? That doesn't sound right to me
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