Future HoF members...

bern024 · 10-07-2012, 01:19 PM

If you had to put money down and wanted to start hoarding future HoF'ers for collection or investment, who would it be?

Ray27Ray52 · 10-07-2012, 01:20 PM

Offense- Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Ladainian Tomlinson

Defense- Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Brian Urlacher

Josh611 · 10-07-2012, 01:30 PM

Tebow....………

Quigley24 · 10-07-2012, 01:48 PM

O-Brady, P. Manning, Moss, Tomlinson
D-Urlacher, Reed, Lewis, Jason Taylor, Peppers

Ray27Ray52 · 10-07-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Quigley24

O-Brady, P. Manning, Moss, Tomlinson
D-Urlacher, Reed, Lewis, Jason Taylor, Peppers

Is there an echo in here, haha.

BostonNut · 10-07-2012, 01:50 PM

Julius Peppers?!?

What am I missing?

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Originally Posted by Quigley24

O-Brady, P. Manning, Moss, Tomlinson
D-Urlacher, Reed, Lewis, Jason Taylor, Peppers

TheBurg · 10-07-2012, 01:52 PM

I'd say Eli or Roethlisberger. Both will get in on their current numbers alone, and that doesn't seem to have registered with collectors yet.

BostonNut · 10-07-2012, 01:53 PM

Wha?!?

Neither would get in on their current numbers. Boarder line at best for both.

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Originally Posted by TheBurg

I'd say Eli or Roethlisberger. Both will get in on their current numbers alone, and that doesn't seem to have registered with collectors yet.

Ray27Ray52 · 10-07-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Wha?!?

Neither would get in on their current numbers. Boarder line at best for both.

Agreed. If they were both to retire today, I don't think they should get in.

However, if they continue to put up numbers for several more seasons then they are both no brainers.

TheBurg · 10-07-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Wha?!?

Neither would get in on their current numbers. Boarder line at best for both.

2 Superbowl QBs get in, unless you play for the Raiders. I promise you both get in.

Ray27Ray52 · 10-07-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBurg

2 Superbowl QBs get in, unless you play for the Raiders. I promise you both get in.

I am not in the SB Rings= HOF merit camp, so I can't be on board with this.

Sb Rings are a team achievement not a player achievement.

chasacar86 · 10-07-2012, 01:55 PM

Let's get riskier...aj green and Trent.

BostonNut · 10-07-2012, 01:56 PM

So if Doug Williams or Trent Dilfer won one more Super Bowl they would be in the Hall of Fame?

Ooooooookay........

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Originally Posted by TheBurg

2 Superbowl QBs get in, unless you play for the Raiders. I promise you both get in.

TheBurg · 10-07-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

So if Doug Williams or Trent Dilfer won one more Super Bowl they would be in the Hall of Fame?

Ooooooookay........

No, and there's probably a reason they didn't win a second one. I feel like winning 2 does require an elite QB. And neither of those players should be mentioned in the same sentence as Ben and Eli.

BostonNut · 10-07-2012, 02:03 PM

So you go from saying two Super Bowl quarterbacks=HOF to never mind when I give two examples of terrible Super Bowl winning quarterbacks.

We get it...you are a PittsHomer...but the realistic truth is that Roethisberger is borderline who has had a great running game and superb defenses his entire career.

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Originally Posted by TheBurg

No, and there's probably a reason they didn't win a second one. I feel like winning 2 does require an elite QB. And neither of those players should be mentioned in the same sentence as Ben and Eli.

TheBurg · 10-07-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

So you go from saying two Super Bowl quarterbacks=HOF to never mind when I give two examples of terrible Super Bowl winning quarterbacks.

We get it...you are a PittsHomer...but the realistic truth is that Roethisberger is borderline who has had a great running game and superb defenses his entire career.

There is a big difference between possibly getting lucky and doing it once or doing it twice. I agree with that on the first one. But the second and third SBs (I know we didn't win the 3rd one) We had a very bad secondary and NO running game. Ben carried us to both of those. Same with Eli. He was supported for the first one and everything clicked, but he deserves a lot of credit for the second one. This is what I'm saying. There's a huge leap between getting lucky and winning one, or winning two.

dfr52 · 10-07-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Julius Peppers?!?

What am I missing?

Over 100 sacks and and a dominant player against the run.

dfr52 · 10-07-2012, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonNut

So you go from saying two Super Bowl quarterbacks=HOF to never mind when I give two examples of terrible Super Bowl winning quarterbacks.

We get it...you are a PittsHomer...but the realistic truth is that Roethisberger is borderline who has had a great running game and superb defenses his entire career.

And Brady has had the benefit of a great pass blocking OL and during their run of Super Bowl victories he had a back go over 1,000 yards 2/3 years and a dominating defense to support him.

bradsholly · 10-07-2012, 02:43 PM

for investment....none of them, their prices are only going to drop after retirement!!

HBMC · 10-07-2012, 02:44 PM

Tony Gonzalez, Jason Witten, Demarcus Ware, Jared Allen, Troy Polamalu

Metsfan1121 · 10-07-2012, 03:12 PM

Woodson and bailey, Fitzgerald are the only ones I can think of that haven't been said. Maybe megaton, Rodgers or Willis.

trixstar · 10-07-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I am not in the SB Rings= HOF merit camp, so I can't be on board with this.

Sb Rings are a team achievement not a player achievement.

well you may not be but anyone who has a HOF vote is

yankeesfan24 · 10-07-2012, 03:15 PM

Ware, Charles Woodson, Ray Lewis, Tony G, Witten, Vinatieri (reach, but has a shot), Brady, Peyton, and Randy Moss

Ray27Ray52 · 10-07-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by trixstar

well you may not be but anyone who has a HOF vote is

I have never understood the reasoning.

Dan Marino is universally considered a Top 5 QB of all time. He never won a SB. Why should he be penalized personally for not accomplishing a team victory. By extension, why should he receive more acclaim if he had 4 rings. Doesn't make any sense to me.

marinocollector · 10-07-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Wha?!?

Neither would get in on their current numbers. Boarder line at best for both.

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Agreed. If they were both to retire today, I don't think they should get in.

However, if they continue to put up numbers for several more seasons then they are both no brainers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I am not in the SB Rings= HOF merit camp, so I can't be on board with this.

Sb Rings are a team achievement not a player achievement.

Both of those QBs were major components in their teams wins while being considered one of the top QBs in their eras. Dilfer and Williams were never held in such esteem.

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chasacar86 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,815	Let's get riskier...aj green and Trent. __________________ I want to see the "gameday bucket go BOOM" girl get punched in the face.

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Quigley24 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,036 Quigley2324	O-Brady, P. Manning, Moss, Tomlinson D-Urlacher, Reed, Lewis, Jason Taylor, Peppers

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bradsholly Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wyocena, WI Posts: 3,987	for investment....none of them, their prices are only going to drop after retirement!!

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Metsfan1121 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: long island Posts: 1,870	Woodson and bailey, Fitzgerald are the only ones I can think of that haven't been said. Maybe megaton, Rodgers or Willis.

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