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Old 09-13-2009, 01:06 PM   #76 (permalink)
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no, OSU isn't worse than USC. Yes, they beat them, but let's be real here--did usc deserve to win the game? take away the field goal in the end of the first half, and give osu the td on usc's goalline stand and OSU wins the game easy. I am not trying to rid of the loss, but am looking at things on a rationality standpoint, if you know what that means. just cuz a team beats another, that doesn't mean they're better than them--is BYU better than OU? houston over OK St.?

and my last messaage said don't send antoher without facts. You got me with the barkley thing, I was wrong, (cuz you never were) but I, unlike you, will hold strong by my word that pryor is leagues better than barkley
The way barkley played ohio state should of won. i agree with you 100 % with everything you wrote.
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:47 PM   #78 (permalink)
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no, OSU isn't worse than USC. Yes, they beat them, but let's be real here--did usc deserve to win the game? take away the field goal in the end of the first half, and give osu the td on usc's goalline stand and OSU wins the game easy. I am not trying to rid of the loss, but am looking at things on a rationality standpoint, if you know what that means. just cuz a team beats another, that doesn't mean they're better than them--is BYU better than OU? houston over OK St.?

and my last messaage said don't send antoher without facts. You got me with the barkley thing, I was wrong, (cuz you never were) but I, unlike you, will hold strong by my word that pryor is leagues better than barkley
Take away USC's 17 points and OSU would have won! Wow you OSU homers are great!!! Your right OSU is the best team on the planet they just happen to beat themselves!!

USC went into a hostile stadium and WON - the better team won in the 4th Quarter when it counts. The Suckeyes were unable to score on the goal line because their fat unathletic OLine could not block a BETTER USC defense!!

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if you weren't such an a**h***(fill in the blanks) you would have read through my comment saying I'm not trying to take away their victory, just stating my thoughts and if you read it you would have realized it was a credible thought, not an attack. And please come up with something better than fat and unathletic you're making points that have nothing to do with facts

and homers? really?

I also love it when you drop any point you make iof more than one people are against your point hint: matt barkley
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are you illiterate, or just ignorant?
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are you illiterate, or just ignorant?
Spoken like a true Buckeye!
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or both I guess. Now, maybe I'm wrong here, but I'd like to bring up the fact again that I'm 13. You're like 30. And I think you just can't accept the fact that a young teen knows more than you about football and is more mature
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or both I guess. Now, maybe I'm wrong here, but I'd like to bring up the fact again that I'm 13. You're like 30. And I think you just can't accept the fact that a young teen knows more than you about football and is more mature
You are the one who lowered yourself to personal attacks! Way to be mature! Also a sure sign of maturity is someone consistently telling everyone how mature they are. Thank you for letting me know how mature you are and how much you know about football. You are a Buckeye fan and both are prerequisites!

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you're righ twith the personal thing, I did go there first. But when people only listen to their own ideas and no one elses I feel a need to push my ideas more.

and also, let's stop this feud, it's no longer about football
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I don't think osu is even that good before the game. They also lossed too much talent. Penn state is the team to beat in the big ten this year.
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danimal, you're obviously one of those homers who likes to start things with teams and fans you don't like. Let me break it down for you, I only read the last 5 pages and saw the title of your thread, so I'll start with the title. Big 10 hasn't been on par for the past couple of years, I'll admit that. They have a few good teams, but they can't seem to win the big games. As far as the Big East goes, they are a pretty good conference (see UC Bearcats). The Cincinnati Bearcats could beat USC by 21 points after watching the game last night. No contest.

USC did surprise me last night. They were nowhere near as good as I thought they would be. Barkley did pretty good for being a freshman QB in a very hostile environment, but like the Buckeye poster above me said, McKnight was the savior of USC last night. Tressel, IMO, absolutely blew that game with his conservative playcalling. OSU should've won that game by 10. Pryor didn't play that well, but he played well enough to win the game IF Tressel would've been more aggressive at the right moments. The only thing that happened last night was Pete Carroll outcoaching Jim Tressel. The Buckeye players won the physical and mental game for 3 1/2 quarters. The Buckeyes DOMINATED the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. The last drive USC had should've been a desperation drive by the Trojans, trailing by more than a touchdown, but Tressel coached a terrible game. Tressel lost the game for the Buckeyes.

Oh, and for the record, Notre Dame is considered an independent team in football, which means they don't belong to a conference, and they belong in the Big East conference in the other sports. Please look up your information before you type it. You don't sound very knowledgeable with statements like "Notre Dame is in the Big 10".
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danimal, you're obviously one of those homers who likes to start things with teams and fans you don't like. Let me break it down for you, I only read the last 5 pages and saw the title of your thread, so I'll start with the title. Big 10 hasn't been on par for the past couple of years, I'll admit that. They have a few good teams, but they can't seem to win the big games. As far as the Big East goes, they are a pretty good conference (see UC Bearcats). The Cincinnati Bearcats could beat USC by 21 points after watching the game last night. No contest.

USC did surprise me last night. They were nowhere near as good as I thought they would be. Barkley did pretty good for being a freshman QB in a very hostile environment, but like the Buckeye poster above me said, McKnight was the savior of USC last night. Tressel, IMO, absolutely blew that game with his conservative playcalling. OSU should've won that game by 10. Pryor didn't play that well, but he played well enough to win the game IF Tressel would've been more aggressive at the right moments. The only thing that happened last night was Pete Carroll outcoaching Jim Tressel. The Buckeye players won the physical and mental game for 3 1/2 quarters. The Buckeyes DOMINATED the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. The last drive USC had should've been a desperation drive by the Trojans, trailing by more than a touchdown, but Tressel coached a terrible game. Tressel lost the game for the Buckeyes.

Oh, and for the record, Notre Dame is considered an independent team in football, which means they don't belong to a conference, and they belong in the Big East conference in the other sports. Please look up your information before you type it. You don't sound very knowledgeable with statements like "Notre Dame is in the Big 10".
You don't sound very knowledgeable saying Cincinnati would beat USC by 21 - that is about as homer a statement anyone can possibly make! Even OSU fans will agree with me on that point. And if you read my later post you will see where I realized my mistake about ND. I just get my mid-major conferences like the Big 10 and Big East confused sometimes!

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Ok where is my popcorn and my pretty cookie?

Alright now SEC is the best confrence and the best team is the Arkansas Razorbacks WOOPIGSOOIE.
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Ok where is my popcorn and my pretty cookie?

Alright now SEC is the best confrence and the best team is the Arkansas Razorbacks WOOPIGSOOIE.


I agree with you that the SEC is the best conference and i hope your right about the Razorbacks. Looking forward to the Georgia game this week.

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danimal, you're obviously one of those homers who likes to start things with teams and fans you don't like. Let me break it down for you, I only read the last 5 pages and saw the title of your thread, so I'll start with the title. Big 10 hasn't been on par for the past couple of years, I'll admit that. They have a few good teams, but they can't seem to win the big games. As far as the Big East goes, they are a pretty good conference (see UC Bearcats). The Cincinnati Bearcats could beat USC by 21 points after watching the game last night. No contest.

USC did surprise me last night. They were nowhere near as good as I thought they would be. Barkley did pretty good for being a freshman QB in a very hostile environment, but like the Buckeye poster above me said, McKnight was the savior of USC last night. Tressel, IMO, absolutely blew that game with his conservative playcalling. OSU should've won that game by 10. Pryor didn't play that well, but he played well enough to win the game IF Tressel would've been more aggressive at the right moments. The only thing that happened last night was Pete Carroll outcoaching Jim Tressel. The Buckeye players won the physical and mental game for 3 1/2 quarters. The Buckeyes DOMINATED the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. The last drive USC had should've been a desperation drive by the Trojans, trailing by more than a touchdown, but Tressel coached a terrible game. Tressel lost the game for the Buckeyes.

Oh, and for the record, Notre Dame is considered an independent team in football, which means they don't belong to a conference, and they belong in the Big East conference in the other sports. Please look up your information before you type it. You don't sound very knowledgeable with statements like "Notre Dame is in the Big 10".
You should check the stats for the game, USC beat OSU in every stat including the only one that really counts. Also to those claiming Barkley did nothing on the final drive: 3 for 5 passing for 55 of the 95 yards.
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You should check the stats for the game, USC beat OSU in every stat including the only one that really counts. Also to those claiming Barkley did nothing on the final drive: 3 for 5 passing for 55 of the 95 yards.
Thank you! Finally someone else who is not looking at the world through scarlet and gray glasses!
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You should check the stats for the game, USC beat OSU in every stat including the only one that really counts. Also to those claiming Barkley did nothing on the final drive: 3 for 5 passing for 55 of the 95 yards.
what were the rest of his stats?
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what were the rest of his stats?
They were better than Pryor's!
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no, danimal, they weren't

passing, pryor had a higher average and about the same coompletion rate. secondly, your forgetting the rushing stats, where barkley had 7 rushes for 8 yards and pryor had 10 rushes for 36 yards
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Let's end this debate... Forcier had better stats than both of them combined (sans total yards)!
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Let's end this debate... Forcier had better stats than both of them combined (sans total yards)!
Agreed. Forcier was the most impressive Freshman (or Sophmore for that matter) QB this past Saturday.
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that's not the debate--it's who was better of barkley and pryor
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that's not the debate--it's who was better of barkley and pryor
Neither. Pryor looked like a kid who has not figured it out yet when it comes to big games,and Barkley had a running back to lean on,which OSU didn't have
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I agree, but that's stil not the debate. The debate is who played better
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