Big 10 = Big East = Suck!!

[bmc398]

Originally Posted by solt0131

1) Every conference puts good players in the NFL, don't act like the Big 10 is the main source for successful NFL players because the SEC, Big 12, Pac 10 and Big East all have their share too.

2) It wasn't just one year. The Big 10 has been struggling in bowl games now for the last 3 years.

3) The Big 10 doesn't suck, it's just not very good. They have a very weak non conference schedule for one and two, see number one.

4) How do you think Iowa would have done if they played Alabama's schedule or maybe even Tennessee's?

#1. Look at Big Ten Qbs in the NFL. Look at their starting records. Look at every other conference. That should say a lot. Purdue QBs by themselves are 11-0 this year...
#2. The issue with the Big Ten looking impotent in bowls has a lot to do with Matchups. It hurts us in 2 ways. #1 we usually get 2 teams in the BCS (which is the mark of a bad conference right?) so our bowl slots are off by one vs. our competitors conferences. #2 our idiot comissioners have us in bowls playing teams better ranked than us. Most of our matchups look like Big Ten #5 vs. Big 12#3-4 or something of that nature. In actuality it would be our #6 vs. their 3 or 4 because of the BCS taking an extra Big Ten team and everybody sliding up. That's why Northwestern was playing Mizzou in the Alamo bowl (which was a good game) when they probably should have been in the insight bowl, a game which would have been easier to win.

Instead of having Iowa play UGA (which would have been a hell of a game) and Michigan St. play s. carolina they switched those so that UGA had a cakewalk as did Iowa. Penn St. was disappointing in the Rose Bowl but NOBODY was going to beat that USC team late last year. Ohio State played an awesome game down to the wire with a Texas team everybody thought should be in the NC game. You act like we are getting blown out by sub-par teams. We are competing in most cases in games that are mismatches. Not the teams faults tho...thats why the BigTen has recent reset their bowl ties. Not for easier games but to get in with equal competition in an era where the BCS takes 2 BigTen teams more often than not.

#3 Tell me how our OOC schedule is any worse than most other conferences? We have 3 teams who play ND!!! I see you're a ND fan....is ND bad? I mean, look at Florida's OOC schedule. At least Ohio State goes and plays one OOC game out of its own state more than once a century.

#4. If Iowa played Bama's schedule they MIGHT have one loss right now. Va Tech is a team that is easily beatable if you have a good defense...oh and Iowa does. Arkansas, South Carolina and Ole Miss are average and incomplete teams that Iowa would beat as well. Outside of that the only ? on Bama's schedule is LSU and its not like LSU is beating down their opponents convincingly.

[WaxDestroyer]

GO GATORS!!! we are NOT peaking early, you ARE doubting us, we will peak at the perfect time, SEC Championship game VS Alabama!!!

[bmc398]

Originally Posted by WaxDestroyer

GO GATORS!!! we are NOT peaking early, you ARE doubting us, we will peak at the perfect time, SEC Championship game VS Alabama!!!

Still haven't been able to challenge anybody down the field. I don't think anybody says you're peaking early...I don't even think Urban Meyer knows who this team is yet. Good luck but it will take a heck of a game to beat Bama. I'd love to see one of my Alma Maters upset you in Jacksonville next week!!!

[WaxDestroyer]

it will take our best game and Alabama's slightly less than best game for us to win IMO. That Alabama RB ain't to be messed w/ !!

[danimal]

I think the reason a lot of people think the Big 10 is bad is because over the last 3 years their top teams have been horrid in BCS bowl games.

Big 10: 0-6
Big 12: 2-3
SEC: 5-1
PAC 10: 3-0

The Big 10 top teams appear to not be as good as the other top conferences top teams because they continue to lose year after year. One year could be a fluke but 3 straight is a trend. If the Big 10 loses it's BCS game again this year that would mean going into next year not a single player in the Big 10 would have a BCS win unless they are an OSU or PSU player who got a medical redshirt.

[solt0131]

Hell, even the Big East has won a BCS game. Pat White and WVU destroyed Georgia that year.

[wcbraun]

Originally Posted by solt0131

Hell, even the Big East has won a BCS game. Pat White and WVU destroyed Georgia that year.

The Big East is 3-2 in BCS games over the last five years since Miami, Va. Tech and BC left for the ACC.

Two of those wins were from WVU and the other was from Louisville.

[danimal]

I just looked a little more in depth at the Big 10 in BCS Bowl games this decade (2000 season to present) and the numbers seem to show the Big 10 is probably only the 4th best conference.

In that time span they are 4-11 with wins only against the Big 12, Big East, ND and the ACC.

PAC 10: 0-6 (wow!)
SEC: 0-3 (uh-oh)
Big 12: 1-2
ACC: 1-0
Big East: 1-0
ND: 1-0