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crazycards1981 · 10-22-2012, 08:50 AM

I honestly think that Brandon Weeden is a better QB than Andrew Luck. Ive watched both all season now and I think in the long run Weeden will have the most success. Discuss.

armyatc22 · 10-22-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycards1981

I honestly think that Brandon Weeden is a better QB than Andrew Luck. Ive watched both all season now and I think in the long run Weeden will have the most success. Discuss.

I think in the long run Weeden will retire before Luck

asujbl · 10-22-2012, 08:55 AM

I think Weeden is underappreciated. He is playing really well considering TRich has sucked so far (if you’ve watched the games you’ll realize he has) and that Greg Little has been Greg Little and Josh Gordon is just figuring it out.

The problem is you’ll never be able to compare the two as Weeden will retire as Luck is probably hitting his prime in 6 years.

crazycards1981 · 10-22-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

I think Weeden is underappreciated. He is playing really well considering TRich has sucked so far (if you’ve watched the games you’ll realize he has) and that Greg Little has been Greg Little and Josh Gordon is just figuring it out.

The problem is you’ll never be able to compare the two as Weeden will retire as Luck is probably hitting his prime in 6 years.

He really has. I had high hopes for the guy but it seems like every time he carries the ball he is stopped behind the line or only picks up a few yards.

And yes I agree it is hard to compare the 2 QB's but what I can say is that Cleveland did well in drafting Weeden.

Srt42004n · 10-22-2012, 09:27 AM

Weeden is 5 years older...Id say weeden will be like Weinke...

RamRage · 10-22-2012, 10:32 AM

Luck: 23
Weeden: 29
Luck Comp %: 53.6
Weeden Comp %: 56.6
Luck INT: 7
Weeden INT: 10
Luck TD: 7
Weeden TD: 9

Both solid considering the rubbish they have around them, but Luck will climb higher.

slappybag · 10-22-2012, 10:53 AM

Better? Don't really think so. Doing more with less? Definitley.

metsplaya123 · 10-22-2012, 10:53 AM

Well ur wrong but thanks for sharing

metsplaya123 · 10-22-2012, 10:54 AM

Don't be suprised if the colts get 8-10 wins and sneak into the playoffs

asujbl · 10-22-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by metsplaya123

Well ur wrong but thanks for sharing

What a great way to spark conversation...

I agree it will end up being "wrong" but it's certainly worth a debate.

metsplaya123 · 10-22-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

What a great way to spark conversation...

I agree it will end up being "wrong" but it's certainly worth a debate.

Well I sparked thick conversation with my next comment

EricInCT · 10-22-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by metsplaya123

Don't be suprised if the colts get 8-10 wins and sneak into the playoffs

What flavor kool-aid?

Haiku · 10-22-2012, 12:18 PM

Andrew Luck has been very good so far.He is good as advertise.
Weeden is solid as well and look at all the RC QB's they have all been pretty good thus far.

freethrowtommy · 10-22-2012, 12:32 PM

Brandon Weeden coming out party!

But seriously, I think Weeden is a stop gap for the Browns and they will be grabbing another QB soon. I definitely don't think that is Weeden's fault because he has played well considering the garbage he has to work with... but with a regime change that will be coming soon (I am guessing), the QB will go with the rest of them.

Imac7065 · 10-22-2012, 12:38 PM

My predictions... Weeden and RG3 are 5 year or less NFL players

Russell Wilson will be above average but never great...

Andrew Luck will only get better with age...

Ryan Tannehill might be the sleeper best QB of this draft though. If you watched him in week 1 vs. week 6.. you would think you were watching 2 different players. The guy has "it"... and has played less than 30 games at QB in his life.

A lot like Dan Marino was the forgotten QB in 1983... Roethlisberger in 2004...Aaron Rodgers in 2005...Flacco in 2008... I think Tannehill will be that guy in this draft.

freethrowtommy · 10-22-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

My predictions... Weeden and RG3 are 5 year or less NFL players

Russell Wilson will be above average but never great...

Andrew Luck will only get better with age...

Ryan Tannehill might be the sleeper best QB of this draft though. If you watched him in week 1 vs. week 6.. you would think you were watching 2 different players. The guy has "it"... and has played less than 30 games at QB in his life.

A lot like Dan Marino was the forgotten QB in 1983... Roethlisberger in 2004...Aaron Rodgers in 2005...Flacco in 2008... I think Tannehill will be that guy in this draft.

Flacco is still forgotten... and probably won't ever be remembered.

WalterAZ31 · 10-22-2012, 01:06 PM

i think its a bit unfair to say Trent Richardson sucks

his rib injury is pretty bad, and its had quite an impact on him the last 2 games

look at his first 5 games, before his injury, pretty damn respectable for a rookie RB on a bad team. 4 TD's (5 total), with about 300 yards rushing

He was on pace for about 800-850 yards, which i think is where everyone had him projected to be

tamar3504 · 10-22-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

My predictions... Weeden and RG3 are 5 year or less NFL players

Russell Wilson will be above average but never great...

Andrew Luck will only get better with age...

Ryan Tannehill might be the sleeper best QB of this draft though. If you watched him in week 1 vs. week 6.. you would think you were watching 2 different players. The guy has "it"... and has played less than 30 games at QB in his life.

A lot like Dan Marino was the forgotten QB in 1983... Roethlisberger in 2004...Aaron Rodgers in 2005...Flacco in 2008... I think Tannehill will be that guy in this draft.

dustin9900 · 10-22-2012, 01:31 PM

Luck is Peyton Manning Part Deux in Indy....he will have a very good if not great career if they commit to building around him like they did Peyton. I mean Reggie Wayne can attest to the kids ability he has had a great rebound.

Weeden I liked the Weinke comparison made earlier. He has a pretty good arm but his age is a negative. No he's not a 30 year old rookie like Weinke but he's not getting any younger. And the browns always seem to screw it up. His WR core is horrible and he is still doing well for that he's playing respectable but by no means is he better than Luck in the long run.

Tannehill though is the one to watch. From day one (if you watched hard knocks) he has always looked confident and composed. Runs a smart game and if they commit to getting good players (like they apparently plan on doing by booting Ocho and not signing Braylon Edwards) around him he might go far. That team is a few players away from being a lot better. WR or two and some defensive help and see what he can do.

Russell wilson come on man. Give Flynn the reigns and end this craziness. Midget can't even see over the offensive line.

RGIII well I am biased on this one but I might agree his career length is in question. He plays hard but not very smart sometimes. Take too many hits and it will end sooner rather than later. However if they can keep him upright and playing smarter he will last a while. No Canton career but still a decent career if he can avoid hits.

Razorsharp79 · 10-22-2012, 02:57 PM

RG3 is better than both of them combined...Canton has been put on notice..

Phenomenal TJ · 10-22-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by freethrowtommy

Flacco is still forgotten... and probably won't ever be remembered.

Flacco isn't forgotten, every time the Ravens win the media hosts a show to argue whether or not the guy is an elite QB.

addicted36 · 10-22-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by metsplaya123

Don't be suprised if the colts get 8-10 wins and sneak into the playoffs

So the Colts are 3-3 today and you think 8-8 or 10-6? Never going to happen

10/28 - vs Titans - Loss
11/04 - vs Dolphins - Loss
11/08 - vs Jaguars - Win
11/18 - vs Patriots - Loss
11/25 - vs Bills - Loss
12/02 - vs Lions - Loss
12/09 - vs Titans - Win
12/16 - vs Texans - Loss
12/23 - vs Chiefs - Win
12/30 - vs Texans - Loss

6-10 is where they are at and could be worse. 8-8 won't win that division so the only way they are getting in the playoffs is with the WildCard and that's not happening either.

As for Weeden vs Luck, I think Weeden is doing much more with less then Luck but Luck is the better QB between the two

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Originally Posted by Razorsharp79

RG3 is better than both of them combined...Canton has been put on notice..

Not sure about Canton just yet, but RG3 is better then both for sure

addicted36 · 10-22-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

My predictions... Weeden and RG3 are 5 year or less NFL players

Wager on RG3 being out of the league in 5 years? PM me, I would love to take you on that bet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Russell Wilson will be above average but never great...

Andrew Luck will only get better with age...

Ryan Tannehill might be the sleeper best QB of this draft though. If you watched him in week 1 vs. week 6.. you would think you were watching 2 different players. The guy has "it"... and has played less than 30 games at QB in his life.

A lot like Dan Marino was the forgotten QB in 1983... Roethlisberger in 2004...Aaron Rodgers in 2005...Flacco in 2008... I think Tannehill will be that guy in this draft.

Dan Marino was the first ever player drafted in the USFL (hardly over looked), and like Randy Moss who's stock also fell in the draft, Marino's stock fell to 27th because of rumors of drug use and because Marino threw more picks then TD's in his senior year. He had plenty of question marks but being the 1st ever player drafted in the USFL a league that had Jim Kelly, Steve Young, Reggie White playing to just name a few screams he wasn't over looked

Roethlisberger was the 11th picked player in the 2004 draft with only Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers going before him. Forgotten? Hardly

WalterAZ31 · 10-28-2012, 03:08 PM

can i bump this thread, regarding the guy that said TRICH sucks so far?

when hes been healthy, as evidenced again today, hes been a very, very good rookie RB

Razorsharp79 · 11-04-2012, 03:34 PM

Joe Flacco is not an elite QB, how many times you see Brady throw for 110 yards? haha...guy is a joke and should never be considered a top QB in the NF ever again or even close to it

10-22-2012, 08:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
crazycards1981 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 447	I'm Ready to Take Heat for This I honestly think that Brandon Weeden is a better QB than Andrew Luck. Ive watched both all season now and I think in the long run Weeden will have the most success. Discuss.

10-22-2012, 08:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9,296 ohiosundevils	I think Weeden is underappreciated. He is playing really well considering TRich has sucked so far (if you’ve watched the games you’ll realize he has) and that Greg Little has been Greg Little and Josh Gordon is just figuring it out. The problem is you’ll never be able to compare the two as Weeden will retire as Luck is probably hitting his prime in 6 years. __________________ http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk269/ohiosundevils Want to save 5-15% on your purchase? Check my feedback and pay via Check/MO/Cash I do not ACCEPT or SEND Gift Payments - Thanks

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RamRage Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 636	Luck: 23 Weeden: 29 Luck Comp %: 53.6 Weeden Comp %: 56.6 Luck INT: 7 Weeden INT: 10 Luck TD: 7 Weeden TD: 9 Both solid considering the rubbish they have around them, but Luck will climb higher.

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Haiku Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,492 Mr.Me Too I collect slave owners	Andrew Luck has been very good so far.He is good as advertise. Weeden is solid as well and look at all the RC QB's they have all been pretty good thus far.

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freethrowtommy Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Packerland, US Posts: 9,961 freethrowtommy	Brandon Weeden coming out party! But seriously, I think Weeden is a stop gap for the Browns and they will be grabbing another QB soon. I definitely don't think that is Weeden's fault because he has played well considering the garbage he has to work with... but with a regime change that will be coming soon (I am guessing), the QB will go with the rest of them. __________________ Jordy Nelson PC: http://tinyurl.com/nelson87 Aaron Rodgers PC: http://tinyurl.com/rodgers12 And the Lord said unto John, "come forth and ye shall receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.

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Imac7065 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 4,635 Imac7065	My predictions... Weeden and RG3 are 5 year or less NFL players Russell Wilson will be above average but never great... Andrew Luck will only get better with age... Ryan Tannehill might be the sleeper best QB of this draft though. If you watched him in week 1 vs. week 6.. you would think you were watching 2 different players. The guy has "it"... and has played less than 30 games at QB in his life. A lot like Dan Marino was the forgotten QB in 1983... Roethlisberger in 2004...Aaron Rodgers in 2005...Flacco in 2008... I think Tannehill will be that guy in this draft. __________________ For My Up to Date Inventory Please Check My Ebay Store: http://stores.ebay.com/Jeremys-Sports-Cards-and-Coins

10-22-2012, 01:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
WalterAZ31 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,307 79stuffaz	i think its a bit unfair to say Trent Richardson sucks his rib injury is pretty bad, and its had quite an impact on him the last 2 games look at his first 5 games, before his injury, pretty damn respectable for a rookie RB on a bad team. 4 TD's (5 total), with about 300 yards rushing He was on pace for about 800-850 yards, which i think is where everyone had him projected to be

10-22-2012, 01:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
dustin9900 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,242	Luck is Peyton Manning Part Deux in Indy....he will have a very good if not great career if they commit to building around him like they did Peyton. I mean Reggie Wayne can attest to the kids ability he has had a great rebound. Weeden I liked the Weinke comparison made earlier. He has a pretty good arm but his age is a negative. No he's not a 30 year old rookie like Weinke but he's not getting any younger. And the browns always seem to screw it up. His WR core is horrible and he is still doing well for that he's playing respectable but by no means is he better than Luck in the long run. Tannehill though is the one to watch. From day one (if you watched hard knocks) he has always looked confident and composed. Runs a smart game and if they commit to getting good players (like they apparently plan on doing by booting Ocho and not signing Braylon Edwards) around him he might go far. That team is a few players away from being a lot better. WR or two and some defensive help and see what he can do. Russell wilson come on man. Give Flynn the reigns and end this craziness. Midget can't even see over the offensive line. RGIII well I am biased on this one but I might agree his career length is in question. He plays hard but not very smart sometimes. Take too many hits and it will end sooner rather than later. However if they can keep him upright and playing smarter he will last a while. No Canton career but still a decent career if he can avoid hits. __________________ need to update but here's my bucket: s595.photobucket.com/albums/tt37/dustin9900/ Teams I collect: Atlanta Braves, South Carolina Gamecocks Players I collect: Sidney Rice, Chipper Jones, Cal Ripken Jr., Nolan Ryan

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Razorsharp79 Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,752	RG3 is better than both of them combined...Canton has been put on notice..

10-28-2012, 03:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
WalterAZ31 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,307 79stuffaz	can i bump this thread, regarding the guy that said TRICH sucks so far? when hes been healthy, as evidenced again today, hes been a very, very good rookie RB

11-04-2012, 03:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
Razorsharp79 Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,752	Joe Flacco is not an elite QB, how many times you see Brady throw for 110 yards? haha...guy is a joke and should never be considered a top QB in the NF ever again or even close to it

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