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Old 11-04-2012, 08:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why does everyone think the 2012 draft is weak?

I keep reading how this draft is so weak. Compared to which draft? Luck has lived up to and surpassed his hype. RG3 has been red hot and consistently sold at Luck prices if not higher. Tannehill performing much better then expected. Russell Wilson takes over in pre-season and never looks back. Trent Richardson has looked great when healthy on a bad team, plus Doug Martin has skyrocketed in the last 2 weeks. Receiver the only dissapointing position as far as a breakout player yet, but several are starting to come into their own and might just make some hobby noise yet. Would you rather have a case of football from this year or last of your favorite product?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm biased and would gladly take a case of my favorite product, but for raw prospective purposes, this class is pretty solid.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't recall many saying the class was weak? maybe I just missed those threads.
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I don't recall many saying the class was weak? maybe I just missed those threads.
Yeah I didn't see that either. If anything it's pretty solid compared to other recent classes.
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I dont think its weak... i just think last years class was better
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think early on some thought it looked weak because there wasn't much beyond Griffin and Luck to get excited about. That point is obviously now moot and one could argue that this draft class is one of the best with so many becoming starters in their rookie year and having early success.
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Ive heard of the 2013 class being weak, but from what I remember 2012 was one of the most hyped classes in recent memory.
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crazy how Luck and RG3 have done a complete swap the past 4 games.
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Ive heard of the 2013 class being weak, but from what I remember 2012 was one of the most hyped classes in recent memory.
agreed compared to where everyone was supposed to be, this class is much weaker than expected. I personally still think this class is weak......rg3 is going downhill fast, luck lives up, doug martin is starting to look good, t rich plays for the browns, wilson really isn't doing much anymore, so all you are left with is

luck,
recently doug martin,
rg3 to an extent,
tannehill to a great extent,
t rich who is worth 1/10th of what he started at
after that its all scrubs, guys who barely make the roster on a good team!!
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I don't recall many saying the class was weak? maybe I just missed those threads.
uh check the 2012 topps chrome thread lol
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agreed compared to where everyone was supposed to be, this class is much weaker than expected. I personally still think this class is weak......rg3 is going downhill fast, luck lives up, doug martin is starting to look good, t rich plays for the browns, wilson really isn't doing much anymore, so all you are left with is

luck,
recently doug martin,
rg3 to an extent,
tannehill to a great extent,
t rich who is worth 1/10th of what he started at
after that its all scrubs, guys who barely make the roster on a good team!!
I dont know why but the bolded part made me chuckle.
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agreed compared to where everyone was supposed to be, this class is much weaker than expected. I personally still think this class is weak......rg3 is going downhill fast, luck lives up, doug martin is starting to look good, t rich plays for the browns, wilson really isn't doing much anymore, so all you are left with is

luck,
recently doug martin,
rg3 to an extent,
tannehill to a great extent,
t rich who is worth 1/10th of what he started at
after that its all scrubs, guys who barely make the roster on a good team!!
??????

He's gotten better every game. Don't make posts with assumptions.
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2012 is a very solid class but the 2011 class is better overall long term.
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2012 is a very solid class but the 2011 class is better overall long term.
Ok, I think AJ Green, Julio Jones, and Randall Cobb are solid long term. Also, Von Miller and Aldon Smith. But the QB's from this class continue to take down turns I believe and aren't quarterbacks what drive any product?
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He's gotten better every game. Don't make posts with assumptions.
What about week 7? He hasn't gotten better every game. His only "good" game was against the Pats, which isn't saying much considering their great passing defense.
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Ok, I think AJ Green, Julio Jones, and Randall Cobb are solid long term. Also, Von Miller and Aldon Smith. But the QB's from this class continue to take down turns I believe and aren't quarterbacks what drive any product?
let's see how it plays out long term. 2011 for sure has more impact type players across the board and is much deeper.
both 2011 & 2012 have great possibilities for some real hobby love down the road

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What about week 7? He hasn't gotten better every game. His only "good" game was against the Pats, which isn't saying much considering their great passing defense.
Going against a tough defense that none of the other rookie QBs have had to face.. but aight man, no need to jump on me. You're right? Is that what you're looking for? I didn't make this topic claiming he's an elite quarterback.. I made a comment on his statement "wilson really isn't doing much anymore".
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Going against a tough defense that none of the other rookie QBs have had to face.. but aight man, no need to jump on me. You're right? Is that what you're looking for? I didn't make this topic claiming he's an elite quarterback.. I made a comment on his statement "wilson really isn't doing much anymore".
Aight man, you said he is getting better every game, when he hasn't but it's aight man, I understand what your saying?
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Aight man, you said he is getting better every game, when he hasn't but it's aight man, I understand what your saying?
Repetitive statements are IGNANT. Not to mention you totally missed the whole purpose of my response to you, but IT'S AIGHT MAN.
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Repetitive statements are IGNANT. Not to mention you totally missed the whole purpose of my response to you, but IT'S AIGHT MAN.
Aight I'll answer your last post now? Yes 49er's have a great defense that doesn't change that Wilson played horrible. Doesn't really matter if any other Rookie QB's had faced the 49er's yet. No one said you were claiming Wilson was Elite. Is this Aight man?
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Aight I'll answer your last post now? Yes 49er's have a great defense that doesn't change that Wilson played horrible. Doesn't really matter if any other Rookie QB's had faced the 49er's yet. No one said you were claiming Wilson was Elite. Is this Aight man?
You still missed the purpose.... The purpose was to respond to the other poster's comment. That's all. Didn't require response from anybody else. Thank you.
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You still missed the purpose.... The purpose was to respond to the other poster's comment. That's all. Didn't require response from anybody else. Thank you.
Aight.....!
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