Why is ebay constantly trying to f**k with us?!?!?!?!??!

calbearsfan · 11-05-2012, 04:07 PM

I got this message today when doing a search:

"Search using the wildcard symbol (*) is no longer supported."

WHAT THE F****************K?!?!?!?!??!?!

Why the hell isn't it supported anymore?

So now we have to search for "autograph" to get autograph listings?

.....great

(Note: if this doesn't seem like a big deal, wait till you miss out on a great card, or your card goes for wayyyy less money because people can't find it--and then you'll feel my anger/pain)

calbearsfan · 11-05-2012, 04:11 PM

How is not allowing us to search for MORE listings a way to IMPROVE the search experience?

If people don't want to use the wildcard symbol--THEN DON'T.

The wildcard symbol is a BASIC AND FUNDAMENTAL TOOL in the search-engine process, one meant to HELP BOTH BUYERS AND SELLERS!!!!

This is going to lead me to BUY LESS since I won't be able to find the items that I want, it is going to lead to me SELLING LESS because people won't be able to find my items--and IS EVENTUALLY GOING TO LEAD ME TO LEAVE EBAY ALTOGETHER!!!!

crd1224 · 11-05-2012, 04:12 PM

Just curious, what does the wild card symbol do? I've never heard of that...

Deathgate · 11-05-2012, 04:13 PM

I agree with everything said so far in this thread! This sounds like Adobe or Microsoft - "Let's remove functionality, and call it a feature!"

calbearsfan · 11-05-2012, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crd1224

Just curious, what does the wild card symbol do? I've never heard of that...

You used to be able to type in auto* and it would give you any listings that said auto, autograph, autographs, autographed, etc....

Now you have to write in "autograph"--which kills the character limit and prevents you from putting in other pertinent information which would allow people to search for your listing.

trixstar · 11-05-2012, 04:17 PM

Have to admit I've never used this feature. I do however use the - to remove words I don't want i.e -break -box -group when im trying to search for new releases and dont want to have to sift through 10,000 box break listings.

dpwoodford · 11-05-2012, 04:19 PM

I got a warning about this a few days ago because my saved searches had *'s in them, had to go through and add (au,auto,autograph,autographed) to them and move players to new searches to fit the character limit.

matt roberson · 11-05-2012, 04:29 PM

I just search "auto" ....

Ray27Ray52 · 11-05-2012, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt roberson

I just search "auto" ....

Exactly. If you search using auto it brings up all listings that have auto OR autograph in the title.

alexlazarevich · 11-05-2012, 04:36 PM

The * was essential for any buyer using the search to find poorly titled auctions, such as those with misspellings in them. Removing the * is going to make life difficult for all those "deal" seekers.

For those buyers that just want to find what they really want, and aren't worried so much about finding auctions with poor titles, then removing the * isn't really going to hurt you that much. Like has been said above, you can search for (au,auto,autograph,autographed) and find 99% of the auto's you'll be looking for.

I have no idea why eBay would remove the * from the searches, that is weird. If they think it'll make poorly titled auctions end higher (so they make more money in fees) they are wrong. The auctions will actually end lower because there will be less people finding those auctions by using the * in a search.

dpwoodford · 11-05-2012, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Exactly. If you search using auto it brings up all listings that have auto OR autograph in the title.

I tried that based on the verbage in the e-mail that they were searching for similar text. Compared to the bracket version above I was getting ~5% less results, but didn't go through in detail to see what it was missing. The bracket version was getting about 2% less than the au* version, whilst that still worked, which were mainly misspellings I guess.

addicted36 · 11-05-2012, 04:52 PM

Makes you wonder what the best keywords are in auction titles to ensure the most possible looks. Anyon ever do the research on that?

pierrethomasfan · 11-05-2012, 05:05 PM

Works on the app for iPhone

Never knew you could do this but ill do it now sweet!

dpwoodford · 11-05-2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierrethomasfan

Works on the app for iPhone

Never knew you could do this but ill do it now sweet!

The iOS apps tend to lag in features by a few days. I'll be surprised if it still works on there in a week.

ncluett · 11-05-2012, 06:05 PM

change is scary....

Wildcard searches hit the database servers hard. I'm sure this factor went into eBay's decision to make the change. Life goes on.

bazinga · 11-05-2012, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calbearsfan

I got this message today when doing a search:

"Search using the wildcard symbol (*) is no longer supported."

WHAT THE F****************K?!?!?!?!??!?!

Why the hell isn't it supported anymore?

So now we have to search for "autograph" to get autograph listings?

.....great

(Note: if this doesn't seem like a big deal, wait till you miss out on a great card, or your card goes for wayyyy less money because people can't find it--and then you'll feel my anger/pain)

step slowly away from the comp,,,,,,

mindbinge · 11-05-2012, 06:41 PM

they also seem to have taken away the check box under the search button for "title and description"...but, you can still get there if you click on advanced search...but...why take the check box away??? it was much easier

nabzy28 · 11-05-2012, 07:17 PM

Ugh.... first they made 'started between' disappear which was awesome for finding newly listed items... now this trash. believe me, I knew about it almost instantly. I run searches for tons of older autograph cards from the early 2000's. Now, I guess I'll just miss out on the poorly titled ones, etc. that the * search was good for.

nvious23 · 11-05-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addicted36

Makes you wonder what the best keywords are in auction titles to ensure the most possible looks. Anyon ever do the research on that?

Don't have to its ebay 1/1. Lol

ssbledsoe · 11-06-2012, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nabzy28

Ugh.... first they made 'started between' disappear which was awesome for finding newly listed items... now this trash. believe me, I knew about it almost instantly. I run searches for tons of older autograph cards from the early 2000's. Now, I guess I'll just miss out on the poorly titled ones, etc. that the * search was good for.

This news is not welcome, but whatever.
I run the following search while I'm "indisposed" at work: "drew bledsoe". It returns > 5000 on average, but I've had too much luck finding poorly listed auctions for cards I REALLY dig.

pfb11 · 11-06-2012, 01:43 AM

yep, it was one of my favorite methods as well. Glad to see that people are finally noticing that they took it away.

darklodus · 11-06-2012, 01:56 AM

It sounds like to me they have some lazy programmers that don't want to properly plug SQL Injection attacks. Most of what I have heard from the techs is that what they removed could have been used to do attacks but could have easily been prevented without having to rip out functionality.

darklodus
(Programmer by day, card ripper by night

)

dwest13cavs · 11-06-2012, 02:14 PM

If you search auto i think it pulls up autograph as well. I think that this is the change

11-05-2012, 04:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
calbearsfan Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 123	Why is ebay constantly trying to fk with us?!?!?!?!??!** I got this message today when doing a search: "Search using the wildcard symbol () is no longer supported." WHAT THE F***************K?!?!?!?!??!?! Why the hell isn't it supported anymore? So now we have to search for "autograph" to get autograph listings? .....great (Note: if this doesn't seem like a big deal, wait till you miss out on a great card, or your card goes for wayyyy less money because people can't find it--and then you'll feel my anger/pain)

11-05-2012, 04:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
crd1224 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 912	Just curious, what does the wild card symbol do? I've never heard of that... __________________ Bucket-http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/crd1224/

11-05-2012, 04:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Deathgate Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bolivia, NC Posts: 962 GoatCollector2012	I agree with everything said so far in this thread! This sounds like Adobe or Microsoft - "Let's remove functionality, and call it a feature!" __________________ Currently collecting sketch cards, Sarah Kaufman and Sara McMann cards. Will be adding Cat Zingano whenever Topps adds her to a set. Get better soon, Cat! I am a network admin. If you see me laughing, pray you have a recent backup.

11-05-2012, 04:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
trixstar Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,794 stunner316	Have to admit I've never used this feature. I do however use the - to remove words I don't want i.e -break -box -group when im trying to search for new releases and dont want to have to sift through 10,000 box break listings. __________________ Follow me on twitter @bigtrix36 I PC Da Bears, Seahawks, Mariners, Pirates

11-05-2012, 04:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
matt roberson Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,796 robeythe1	I just search "auto" .... __________________ PCing....2012 Nick Toon and Russell Wilson, 2005 Aaron Rodgers and any Jerry Rice.... that I like. GO Packers, GO Badgers! http://s1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii625/robeythe1/

11-05-2012, 04:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
calbearsfan Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 123	How is not allowing us to search for MORE listings a way to IMPROVE the search experience? If people don't want to use the wildcard symbol--THEN DON'T. The wildcard symbol is a BASIC AND FUNDAMENTAL TOOL in the search-engine process, one meant to HELP BOTH BUYERS AND SELLERS!!!! This is going to lead me to BUY LESS since I won't be able to find the items that I want, it is going to lead to me SELLING LESS because people won't be able to find my items--and IS EVENTUALLY GOING TO LEAD ME TO LEAVE EBAY ALTOGETHER!!!!

11-05-2012, 04:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
dpwoodford Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 107 dpwoodfordcom dpwoodford	I got a warning about this a few days ago because my saved searches had *'s in them, had to go through and add (au,auto,autograph,autographed) to them and move players to new searches to fit the character limit.

11-05-2012, 04:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
alexlazarevich Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Champaign, Illinois Posts: 3,133 alexlazarevich*cardboardaddict	The * was essential for any buyer using the search to find poorly titled auctions, such as those with misspellings in them. Removing the * is going to make life difficult for all those "deal" seekers. For those buyers that just want to find what they really want, and aren't worried so much about finding auctions with poor titles, then removing the * isn't really going to hurt you that much. Like has been said above, you can search for (au,auto,autograph,autographed) and find 99% of the auto's you'll be looking for. I have no idea why eBay would remove the * from the searches, that is weird. If they think it'll make poorly titled auctions end higher (so they make more money in fees) they are wrong. The auctions will actually end lower because there will be less people finding those auctions by using the * in a search.

11-05-2012, 04:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
addicted36 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 9,135 addicted36 addicted36	Makes you wonder what the best keywords are in auction titles to ensure the most possible looks. Anyon ever do the research on that?

11-05-2012, 05:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
pierrethomasfan Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 6,299 pierre_thomas_super_collector	Works on the app for iPhone Never knew you could do this but ill do it now sweet!

11-05-2012, 06:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
ncluett Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 627 ncluett	change is scary.... Wildcard searches hit the database servers hard. I'm sure this factor went into eBay's decision to make the change. Life goes on. __________________ http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/ncluett/ Cortez Kennedy HOF Induction Speech, "...God bless America, and God bless the Seattle Seahawks!"

11-05-2012, 06:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
mindbinge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 5,814 mindbinge mindbinge	they also seem to have taken away the check box under the search button for "title and description"...but, you can still get there if you click on advanced search...but...why take the check box away??? it was much easier __________________ Super Collector - Looking for anything of Ahmad Bradshaw!- See my collection at: Bradshaw44.com

11-05-2012, 07:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
nabzy28 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,143 nabzy28	Ugh.... first they made 'started between' disappear which was awesome for finding newly listed items... now this trash. believe me, I knew about it almost instantly. I run searches for tons of older autograph cards from the early 2000's. Now, I guess I'll just miss out on the poorly titled ones, etc. that the * search was good for. __________________ Stop buying Panini products. Just stop. If you post another thread complaining about how bad your box of Panini 'whatthehellever' was, just bash your face into a 2x4 with rusty nails sticking out. Buying their products is about just as smart.

11-06-2012, 01:43 AM	#21 (permalink)
pfb11 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 777	yep, it was one of my favorite methods as well. Glad to see that people are finally noticing that they took it away. __________________ ~

11-06-2012, 01:56 AM	#22 (permalink)
darklodus Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 165 alabama-collectibles darklodus	It sounds like to me they have some lazy programmers that don't want to properly plug SQL Injection attacks. Most of what I have heard from the techs is that what they removed could have been used to do attacks but could have easily been prevented without having to rip out functionality. darklodus (Programmer by day, card ripper by night )

11-06-2012, 02:14 PM	#23 (permalink)
dwest13cavs Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: MD/VA Posts: 637	If you search auto i think it pulls up autograph as well. I think that this is the change

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