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Old 01-08-2013, 12:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Let us say that you have an 89 score barry sanders for instance.
You think its should be graded a 10, but you send it in and get a 9.
So, you pop it out of the case and send it again and get a 9 again.
You, being stubborn,pop it outand try one more time, and you once again get a 9.

In theory, you have added three new 9's to the pop count correct?

For all we know, when it says there are 35 9's of a card, it could really be 5 of them that have been sent over and over again, correct?
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BGS puts a watermark on the back of the card that's only visible by eyewear that they have patented so it's pretty useless to do this anymore.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ok
what about psa?
they have the large database correct?
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BGS puts a watermark on the back of the card that's only visible by eyewear that they have patented so it's pretty useless to do this anymore.
Hmmm is this confirmed? So what do they do - send the card back to you and say, "sorry, we already graded this once, we're not gonna do it again?" Doubt it. They will happily regrade cards over and over. I know this for a fact
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BGS puts a watermark on the back of the card that's only visible by eyewear that they have patented so it's pretty useless to do this anymore.
Um, no they don't.
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c'mon man!!!!!!!!!!!
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It still has not answered my original question either way.
Not concerned so much about the practice of doing it.
But the pop counts really have to be about useless outside of the 10's.

What would be a safe assumption?
Maybe the reality is 75% of whatever the pop count says is true? 50%? If it says there are 2,000 8's, really there are only 1,000?

What would everyone's guess be?
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Let us say that you have an 89 score barry sanders for instance.
You think its should be graded a 10, but you send it in and get a 9.
So, you pop it out of the case and send it again and get a 9 again.
You, being stubborn,pop it outand try one more time, and you once again get a 9.

In theory, you have added three new 9's to the pop count correct?

For all we know, when it says there are 35 9's of a card, it could really be 5 of them that have been sent over and over again, correct?
yes, you are correct. Technically if the card was numbered /10 let's say, you could wind up with more graded than exist
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BGS puts a watermark on the back of the card that's only visible by eyewear that they have patented so it's pretty useless to do this anymore.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE!!
NEITHER BGS,PSA OR SGC put anything on the cards!


Yes the population reports are inaccurate due to people regrading cards, nothing you can do about it.
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yes, you are correct. Technically if the card was numbered /10 let's say, you could wind up with more graded than exist
True. Hadn't even thought about it that way.
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c'mon man!!!!!!!!!!!
lol...........
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BGS puts a watermark on the back of the card that's only visible by eyewear that they have patented so it's pretty useless to do this anymore.
LOL, and they will only regrade their top customers, friends, and family members now due to the invisible watermark!!
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