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Old 01-10-2013, 02:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all!

Before I begin, I just wanted to state that this thread is in NO way whatsoever an attempt to discredit or insult the moderators on this site...I believe that they do an excellent job here (just wanted to clear the air with that)

Last week during wild card week, many members (including myself) posted some threads that involved a bit of a gamble on some of the games going on. For example:

If the Ravens win, Member A gets an RG3 auto for free.

If the Colts win, Member A must buy the RG3 auto for $300 (twice eBay value)

Since I was feeling particularly giddy that day , I tried one myself. One of the moderators contacted me and informed me that "betting is not allowed on the site".

So, I suppose I just found it a bit odd that a mutual agreement between two parties is not allowed, yet something like the mystery lots that Haiku ran IS allowed...I mean, isn't that essentially more of a gamble quite frankly?

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Old 01-10-2013, 02:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Mystery lots are NOT allowed.

The mods were unaware of what Haiku was doing.........this is per what a mod told us. Not what I am saying!
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Mystery lots are NOT allowed.

The mods were unaware of what Haiku was doing.........this is per what a mod told us. Not what I am saying!
I see. Then how did his thread stay up so long?
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I also had one of these type of threads and got the same response. My take on it is this, the mods were just trying to keep the peace on the site. If some took the bet and lost and had second thoughts about buying at twice the price, there would be nothing that could be done. So overall they were protecting the people creating the threads.

The gambling part is in the rules but i think that was not the real concern. If it was people wouldn't be able to do fantasy football with cards like they do among other things. Just my take.
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They had to have known about the mystery lots. They were the biggest thing on this site whenever they were going on. I think they were just cracking down on it more because they dont want anything else negative happening on the site
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Don't ask me. Ask a mod. All I know is one said they were not aware of his mystery lots.

I guess no one ever mod alerted any of his MANY mystery lot threads he started. Or his "sales" with the random mystery lots tossed in.
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The mods were unaware of what Haiku was doing
Yeeaaahhh, about that.
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Don't ask me. Ask a mod. All I know is one said they were not aware of his mystery lots.

I guess no one ever mod alerted any of his MANY mystery lot threads he started. Or his "sales" with the random mystery lots tossed in.
I definitely understand what you're saying, but I have an EXTREMELY difficult time believing that they weren't aware of his sale of mystery lots.

That thread was on the front page for several days in a row. Heck, I've had mods contact me with a problem on a thread that is on the third page!

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Holy christ you people are awful at understanding tone or "reading between the lines".
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The whole 'we didn't know it was going on' argument seems to be the typical response from the mods. I got the same response when they deleted one of my threads when there had been plenty of other people doing the exact same thing. Either they turn a blind eye to some things or they honestly don't patrol very well. Honestly I don't think they patrol, but rather just respond when a thread gets reported. I'm glad the mod presence on here isn't huge (see the Nazi camp that is SCF), but they still need to be consistent with their own rules. Otherwise, scams like the Haiku thing will continue.
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Hey all!

Before I begin, I just wanted to state that this thread is in NO way whatsoever an attempt to discredit or insult the moderators on this site...I believe that they do an excellent job here (just wanted to clear the air with that)

Last week during wild card week, many members (including myself) posted some threads that involved a bit of a gamble on some of the games going on. For example:

If the Ravens win, Member A gets an RG3 auto for free.

If the Colts win, Member A must buy the RG3 auto for $300 (twice eBay value)

Since I was feeling particularly giddy that day , I tried one myself. One of the moderators contacted me and informed me that "betting is not allowed on the site".

So, I suppose I just found it a bit odd that a mutual agreement between two parties is not allowed, yet something like the mystery lots that Haiku ran IS allowed...I mean, isn't that essentially more of a gamble quite frankly?

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You see here is what will happen.
Someone won't pay off and then there will be a thread and signatures created for something that is not allowed.
Then everyone will realize that children, like yourself, are involved.
Children cannot enter into contracts.

Mystery lots are not allowed and unless the mods are notified they cannot do anything about it.

I am on here quite a bunch and I had no idea about the mystery lots until after the scam happened.

Here is some advice....if you want to "bet" do it with friends here and in private and if they don't pay off then don't post about it.
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Feel free to leave at any time you little turd.


You see here is what will happen.
Someone won't pay off and then there will be a thread and signatures created for something that is not allowed.
Then everyone will realize that children, like yourself, are involved.
Children cannot enter into contracts.

Mystery lots are not allowed and unless the mods are notified they cannot do anything about it.

I am on here quite a bunch and I had no idea about the mystery lots until after the scam happened.

Here is some advice....if you want to "bet" do it with friends here and in private and if they don't pay off then don't post about it.
jlzinck need anger management much? The guy asked a simple question in a post and you attack him with name-calling. Did someone pee in your cheerios this morning?
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jlzinck need anger management much? The guy asked a simple question in a post and you attack him with name-calling. Did someone pee in your cheerios this morning?
No my Apple Cinnamon Cheerios were eaten dry with my coffee.

As an aside there is no need for OP's post.

He claims this is in now way about the mods yed complains about them.

I just don't like stupidity!!
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If you don't hit that little report button under the member's name, or send a PM to the mods, odds are they will not see the offending post/thread.
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No my Apple Cinnamon Cheerios were eaten dry with my coffee.

As an aside there is no need for OP's post.

He claims this is in now way about the mods yet complains about them.

I just don't like stupidity!!
agreed. This lagalaxyfan is constantly making up shat in his call out threads as he goes along to better his stance as well. Then plays the stupid naive card.
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Children cannot enter into contracts.
I'm sorry. Where in the rules does it state that minors are not allowed to make deals on this site?

You're hurling unsupported insults at someone who you've never talked to, met, or even PMed on these boards... so I'd definitely reconsider who the "child" is.
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agreed. This lagalaxyfan is constantly making up shat in his call out threads as he goes along to better his stance as well. Then plays the stupid naive card.
Have we ever dealt before? Have we ever spoken before? Do you know who I am?

Also, who am I "calling out"?

This thread was intended to ask an innocent question.

From what I last remember, I didn't force you to look at this thread. If you're not interested in submitting information that is relevant to the topic of this thread, then please move along touring the vast amount of possibilities of the Internet.

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I see. Then how did his thread stay up so long?
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Betting isn't allowed and mystery lots aren't allowed. Sounds like you're trying to say,
they got away with it, why can't I?
Some how Haiku did get away with it, does that mean it was right?
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I'm sorry. Where in the rules does it state that minors are not allowed to make deals on this site?

You're hurling unsupported insults at someone who you've never talked to, met, or even PMed on these boards... so I'd definitely reconsider who the "child" is.
Come'on man... chill out...I think what people are sick of are the nit picking bs threads that people keep creating which clutter the board and serve pretty much -0- purpose. Im not picking at you but betting is betting. Most of Haiku's lots were in the night time when im pretty sure he knew mods wouldnt come knocking and he covered his tracks by erasing the content. Betting like what went on here last weekend is not allowed, such as the whole box betting thing that disappeared bc it was not allowed as it involved sending money to other members based of who wins which is gambling.
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Have we ever dealt before? Have we ever spoken before? Do you know who I am?

Also, who am I "calling out"?

This thread was intended to ask an innocent question.

From what I last remember, I didn't force you to look at this thread. If you're not interested in submitting information that is relevant to the topic of this thread, then please move along touring the vast amount of possibilities of the Internet.

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Your threads seem to have more conspiracy theories. Especially your call out threads. Keep leaving the retaliatory feedback
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Your threads seem to have more conspiracy theories. Especially your call out threads. Keep leaving the retaliatory feedback
Are you implying that I'm lying about all my bad experiences with members on here and that I enjoy wasting my time making detailed several-paragraph threads to warn other members?

Typically when someone doesn't send their end of the deal, you leave negative feedback
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Are you implying that I'm lying about all my bad experiences with members on here and that I enjoy wasting my time making detailed several-paragraph threads to warn other members?

Typically when someone doesn't send their end of the deal, you leave negative feedback
Maybe not all but enough.. Embellish seems like a better term. Hate to call anyone a liar
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Maybe not all but enough.. Embellish seems like a better term. Hate to call anyone a liar
Okay thanks. Well I'm totally fine if thats your opinion, but I don't see the need to go bash people over that. You've never personally made a deal with me, so I don't think its very fair to speculate on my reputation as a member on the boards.

I've had all positive experiences here (except from one member), and feel free to PM any of the other reputable members I've dealt with and ask them.

This thread's intentions was to simply get a better understanding on the priorities of the rules on these boards.

If many members here are stating that both gambling and mystery lots are not allowed, I am curious to be informed as to why they don't seem to be equally enforced.

That's all!
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Okay thanks. Well I'm totally fine if thats your opinion, but I don't see the need to go bash people over that. You've never personally made a deal with me, so I don't think its very fair to speculate on my reputation as a member on the boards.

I've had all positive experiences here (except from one member), and feel free to PM any of the other reputable members I've dealt with and ask them.

This thread's intentions was to simply get a better understanding on the priorities of the rules on these boards.

If many members here are stating that both gambling and mystery lots are not allowed, I am curious to be informed as to why they don't seem to be equally enforced.

That's all!
It's up to members to report these types of threads. So more members will see a betting or gambling thread and report it than a mystery lot thread (which I think those will start to get more reported because of the Haiku scam). Both are not allowed is all you have to remember man.
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