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Old 01-12-2013, 12:20 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Pierre is better than them and the scrub in your avatar
hey now.. don't go there on Marino.. guys a dbag but he's the best passer in NFL history. Just ask QB's
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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You freaking kidding me? Where did I say that he must give me the card? What pisses me off is that I have to pay a premium because this guy knows nothing about the value. If I don't get it, it pisses me off, but I'll move on. Way to feel like an Internet tough guy.
Why didn't you just move on then? Instead you make a post like a little crybaby. And entitlement does not mean you have to get something for free. Just because you bought others for a certain price does not mean that dictates the value for all others. When anything dries up, value increases. Maybe he is a smart businessman and knows that there are only two left and wants to get top dollar. And if you think my post was being an internet tough guy you are are even more of an idiot than I thought.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:24 PM   #28 (permalink)
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If you "need" the card that bad, then you'll pay his price. Maybe he doesn't particularly care to sell the card, but would take a nice payment for it? To complete print runs, you're typically gonna have to overpay.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Why didn't you just move on then? Instead you make a post like a little crybaby. And entitlement does not mean you have to get something for free. Just because you bought others for a certain price does not mean that dictates the value for all others. When anything dries up, value increases. Maybe he is a smart businessman and knows that there are only two left and wants to get top dollar. And if you think my post was being an internet tough guy you are are even more of an idiot than I thought.
So buying the card to destroy it isn't an Internet tough guy? Oh the irony! The idiot calls me one! Yes. The 3 feedback seller who doesn't know me is a smart business man. Well done. You've won the Internet. People like you make me sad its illegal to neuter humans.
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I just gave the dude an offer. Let's see if he takes it
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:30 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Just get over it !! Wait for others to show up.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:31 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think you we're better served just keeping your thoughts to yourself on this one. You calling him a dumb*** without ever knowing the guy is rather harsh.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:33 PM   #33 (permalink)
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When dumbasses get one of the two cards I've been looking for day after day to complete the print run.

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$200? Ok, maybe that's for show. I'll offer $17.50. I got my others for $8, and $15 twice. He sent back $50? Fine, how about $20? And that's declined? What the @#@#!

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I've been dealing with this one for a week now trying to work something out.

I offered the guy WAY more than it was worth, I asked him where he figured the $400 price tag... he sends me this back:

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thanks much for your input.
did some searching.. all on ebay currently...
2011 adrian peterson auto/patch 2/5 graded $499.00 2012 adrian peterson auto/patch 1/1 ungraded $399.00 jamal charles auto/patch ungraded 4/5 $75.00 2011 jamal charles auto/patch 4/5 $75.00 2011 steve jackson auto/patch 1/5 $100.00

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Old 01-12-2013, 12:36 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Did he pull the auction? WTF
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Why didn't you just move on then? Instead you make a post like a little crybaby. And entitlement does not mean you have to get something for free. Just because you bought others for a certain price does not mean that dictates the value for all others. When anything dries up, value increases. Maybe he is a smart businessman and knows that there are only two left and wants to get top dollar. And if you think my post was being an internet tough guy you are are even more of an idiot than I thought.
That is so true, it ticks me off seeing supercollectors talk about what a value is as if they are paying top dollar all the time when most lowball the piss out of you because there so called "expert" knowledge on value.

My red ink set I would pay 100 for one and see one show up listed so BAD at auction and get it for 20 bucks, i would factor that into the cost... The value you put forth is not always what it truly is OP. There might be someone wanting to complete that set and might pay 100, i know i would if that card kept me from completing it. so if you want, might as well pony up and get it...

hope you get it op, but this thread does not help you...gotta overpay sometimes to get what you want...lol
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Did he pull the auction? WTF
Looks like he excepted a $20 offer maybe?
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Looks like he excepted a $20 offer maybe?
Yep that's what it looks like

I hope that was the ops offer
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:39 PM   #38 (permalink)
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So it did sell for $20
SUNSFAN RIGGED IT!!!!
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........
So did you end up reaching a deal?
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So did you end up reaching a deal?
Not at all.
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I just gave the dude an offer. Let's see if he takes it
Did you win it??
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Did you win it??
If I had, suns would be a happy camper right now, but it wasn't me.
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If I had, suns would be a happy camper right now, but it wasn't me.
You don't even have $20....
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That is so true, it ticks me off seeing supercollectors talk about what a value is as if they are paying top dollar all the time when most lowball the piss out of you because there so called "expert" knowledge on value.

My red ink set I would pay 100 for one and see one show up listed so BAD at auction and get it for 20 bucks, i would factor that into the cost... The value you put forth is not always what it truly is OP. There might be someone wanting to complete that set and might pay 100, i know i would if that card kept me from completing it. so if you want, might as well pony up and get it...

hope you get it op, but this thread does not help you...gotta overpay sometimes to get what you want...lol
I over pay all the time...I don't lowball anyone and most of the time my offers are more than what something will sell for....just last week i offered a guy $50 for a card he turned around and told me he wanted $150 for that ended up selling for $16...but I'm not going to pay $400 just because it's a 1/1 and thats what someone else thinks its worth based on what an AP sells for lol.
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Lol, it's his card and he can ask whatever he wants out of it. No need to make a thread complaining about it, even though it was quite entertaining.
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So it sold for $20?
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Now you know why it is so difficult to complete runs of cards.
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Now you know why it is so difficult to complete runs of cards.
Not that hard. I have 3 of the 5 and peoduct hasn't been out for 6 months yet
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I over pay all the time...I don't lowball anyone and most of the time my offers are more than what something will sell for....just last week i offered a guy $50 for a card he turned around and told me he wanted $150 for that ended up selling for $16...but I'm not going to pay $400 just because it's a 1/1 and thats what someone else thinks its worth based on what an AP sells for lol.
^^^I did not label all supercollectors, but most have a sense of entitlement as Mufasa said and I agree from my experience most do, not all

OP said he offered 20 and got declined and the winning bid got it for 20+5 shipping.... I imagine the seller got ticked because of the sense of entitlement the OP seemed to show and his rude behavior towards him. Personally I would have went outside with video camera in hand, and burned the damn card before he got it if he cursed at me.

And i would personally never tell a seller I own anything. No, I need this for my set, no i need this to finish the print run...that ruins your shot to get it cheaper IMO..

when you need something you are vulnerable to be taken advantage of, but when you state I want this card, shoot me your best price and lets get this deal done quickly you have much more control in a negotiation from my experiences dealing off and on ebay

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