1/1?

JonMead · 01-20-2013, 12:50 AM

What do you think of these blank back cards from topps vault on eBay so you consider them a true 1/1?

brett06 · 01-20-2013, 04:05 AM

They are probably valued similar too demarcus ware 1/1s not from his rookie year.

ManInTheMirror · 01-20-2013, 04:46 AM

I think they are #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@. I am not going to waste money on a "1/1" that is a 1/1 merely because the back is blank. That is moronic in my book.

MeteoriteGuy · 01-20-2013, 05:16 AM

If they produced only 1, then yes, it is a 1/1. (They are also embossed besides being blank back). Cheesy 1/1's, but one of a kind none-the-less. In price, I compare them to printing plates. So, it doesn't necessary hold much value over cost (they start at $9.99 plus shipping, so $13.49) and some you could argue are worth less.

I also can not conclude I have an opinion over a company that has a 60 year history, over what they can or should produce. It would be like me telling Paramount what a movie is and telling them what they can't make.

freethrowtommy · 01-20-2013, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeteoriteGuy

If they produced only 1, then yes, it is a 1/1. (They are also embossed besides being blank back). Cheesy 1/1's, but one of a kind none-the-less. In price, I compare them to printing plates. So, it doesn't necessary hold much value over cost (they start at $9.99 plus shipping, so $13.49) and some you could argue are worth less.

I also can not conclude I have an opinion over a company that has a 60 year history, over what they can or should produce. It would be like me telling Paramount what a movie is and telling them what they can't make.

The rookies make bank...
2012 Topps Strata Football 1 1 Blank Back Russell Wilson Seahawks | eBay

Even lowly vets get in... some of these have hit some pretty high dollar marks...
2011 Topps Five Star Football 1 1 Blank Back Greg Jennings Packers | eBay

JonMead · 01-20-2013, 10:34 AM

I've ap hit 40 on these that's why I'm asking.

jlzinck · 01-20-2013, 10:36 AM

I have bought about 10 of these.

I kep 2 and sold the rest locally. They usually sell here fir 2X what I pay.

ceczerwonka · 01-20-2013, 10:41 AM

I like them better than the printing plates since they have a full color photo on the front. Here is one of my Lloyds.

They come with the little certificate in an envelope and the number matches the number on the hologram.

JonMead · 01-20-2013, 10:44 AM

They look cool definitely

smackvay · 01-20-2013, 10:47 AM

definately something a "supercollector" has to have in their collection to maintain the"supercollector" status. just my 2 cents

0264 roadrunner1964 · 01-20-2013, 10:47 AM

They tend to be must haves for player collectors....I have Sanzenbacher's....

JonMead · 01-20-2013, 11:03 AM

I agree. I think there cool to have I just wish the numbering was on the front not the back

mindbinge · 01-20-2013, 11:10 AM

Beckett doesn't list them, I personally think they are kinda lame...but I try to get them for my collection.

Topps could do a lot better with them. Matching holograms on the COAs and some better printed COA's that are not just generic hand written crappy looking junk would make them a lot nicer.

Not long ago they started stamping most of them with some sort of round seal...you cant really see it in the auctions very well unless you know what you are looking for. I don't even care for that either.

The only ones I think are kinda cool, are the ones for sets that all the cards are numbered on the front...like the triple threads have even the base cards numbered to /999 on the front...even the superfractors or 1/1's or whatever in these sets have 1/1 stamped on the front...so these toppsvault blank backs are the only cards from those sets that DON'T have any sort of numbering stamped on the fronts....makes them a little different in that respect.

MeteoriteGuy · 01-20-2013, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freethrowtommy

The rookies make bank...
2012 Topps Strata Football 1 1 Blank Back Russell Wilson Seahawks | eBay

Even lowly vets get in... some of these have hit some pretty high dollar marks...
2011 Topps Five Star Football 1 1 Blank Back Greg Jennings Packers | eBay

Some can go high, and you can also find them in discount in Topps store at times. The value of them is close to printing plates from what I have seen (and I own maybe 20...see my Gonzo thread for 10 or more), which is more what I was noting.

It is not uncommon for some printing plates to sell under $9.99 (plus shipping) also, and not uncommon for them to go kind of crazy high....assuming that is what you were getting at.

Clear Skies,
Mark

MeteoriteGuy · 01-20-2013, 11:39 AM

"Beckett doesn't list them..." Which would mean something if it was 1990. (Nice Bradshaw collection.)

lambeauleap87 · 01-20-2013, 11:59 AM

Personally, I think they're just stupid. Topps printing cards with no back and listing them as 1/1s for a little extra revenue.

MrMasterpiece · 01-20-2013, 12:32 PM

I collect 1/1s and i believe these to be a complete JOKE. Thats just my opinion. I will add that i dont believe in printing plates either. I dont consider them 1/1s. I consider them 1/4 due to the on difference is the colors.

hanes1111 · 01-20-2013, 12:36 PM

I like them because it gives everyone a fair crack at it, cant be pulled in packs only won at auction. They could do a better job but I do like that it has a 1/1 sicker on it with authenticity.

01-20-2013, 12:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
JonMead Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4,315	1/1? What do you think of these blank back cards from topps vault on eBay so you consider them a true 1/1?

01-20-2013, 04:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
brett06 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,133 brett0622	They are probably valued similar too demarcus ware 1/1s not from his rookie year. __________________ Montee ball sick patch cards to be framed with my auto picture. Prefer nice 1/1s aka inception or others from 2013. If seen, please pm me.

01-20-2013, 04:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
ManInTheMirror Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 23,483	I think they are #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@. I am not going to waste money on a "1/1" that is a 1/1 merely because the back is blank. That is moronic in my book. __________________ you don't have to find out you are dieing to start living

01-20-2013, 10:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
smackvay Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: west virginia Posts: 2,926 thisnthatplus2	definately something a "supercollector" has to have in their collection to maintain the"supercollector" status. just my 2 cents __________________ SUPERCOLLECTOR LOOKING FOR PAT WHITE CARDS http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/smackvay/library/For%20Sale%20or%20Trade

01-20-2013, 10:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
0264 roadrunner1964 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Troy, Ohio Posts: 2,289 road_runner_1964	They tend to be must haves for player collectors....I have Sanzenbacher's.... __________________ My Bucket: http://s1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff432/Mr264/ My Site: http://www.freewebs.com/road_runner_1964/index.htm

01-20-2013, 05:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
MeteoriteGuy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 343	If they produced only 1, then yes, it is a 1/1. (They are also embossed besides being blank back). Cheesy 1/1's, but one of a kind none-the-less. In price, I compare them to printing plates. So, it doesn't necessary hold much value over cost (they start at $9.99 plus shipping, so $13.49) and some you could argue are worth less. I also can not conclude I have an opinion over a company that has a 60 year history, over what they can or should produce. It would be like me telling Paramount what a movie is and telling them what they can't make.

01-20-2013, 10:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
JonMead Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4,315	I've ap hit 40 on these that's why I'm asking.

01-20-2013, 10:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
jlzinck Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 11,723 jlzinck	I have bought about 10 of these. I kep 2 and sold the rest locally. They usually sell here fir 2X what I pay.

01-20-2013, 10:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
ceczerwonka Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,202	I like them better than the printing plates since they have a full color photo on the front. Here is one of my Lloyds. They come with the little certificate in an envelope and the number matches the number on the hologram.

01-20-2013, 10:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
JonMead Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4,315	They look cool definitely

01-20-2013, 11:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
JonMead Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4,315	I agree. I think there cool to have I just wish the numbering was on the front not the back

01-20-2013, 11:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
mindbinge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 5,746 mindbinge mindbinge	Beckett doesn't list them, I personally think they are kinda lame...but I try to get them for my collection. Topps could do a lot better with them. Matching holograms on the COAs and some better printed COA's that are not just generic hand written crappy looking junk would make them a lot nicer. Not long ago they started stamping most of them with some sort of round seal...you cant really see it in the auctions very well unless you know what you are looking for. I don't even care for that either. The only ones I think are kinda cool, are the ones for sets that all the cards are numbered on the front...like the triple threads have even the base cards numbered to /999 on the front...even the superfractors or 1/1's or whatever in these sets have 1/1 stamped on the front...so these toppsvault blank backs are the only cards from those sets that DON'T have any sort of numbering stamped on the fronts....makes them a little different in that respect. __________________ Super Collector - Looking for anything of Ahmad Bradshaw!- See my collection at: Bradshaw44.com

01-20-2013, 11:39 AM	#15 (permalink)
MeteoriteGuy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 343	"Beckett doesn't list them..." Which would mean something if it was 1990. (Nice Bradshaw collection.)

01-20-2013, 11:59 AM	#16 (permalink)
lambeauleap87 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5,409	Personally, I think they're just stupid. Topps printing cards with no back and listing them as 1/1s for a little extra revenue. __________________ "Opening Day is coming soon, and even Obama can't take that away." Offering a Finder's Fee for the 2012 Topps Orange Jason Kipnis Parallel /190 I collect Packers, former Ohio State Buckeyes, Blue Jackets, and Indians.

01-20-2013, 12:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
MrMasterpiece Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 1,025	I collect 1/1s and i believe these to be a complete JOKE. Thats just my opinion. I will add that i dont believe in printing plates either. I dont consider them 1/1s. I consider them 1/4 due to the on difference is the colors.

01-20-2013, 12:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
hanes1111 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh!!! Posts: 3,114 hanesk9	I like them because it gives everyone a fair crack at it, cant be pulled in packs only won at auction. They could do a better job but I do like that it has a 1/1 sicker on it with authenticity. __________________ http://s754.photobucket.com/albums/xx187/hanes1111/ Always looking for Clemente stuff, pm me with what you have!

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