Panini/Donruss have done a tremendous job with FB

cniel2924 · 10-30-2009, 05:43 PM

I think with Panini's takeover of the company we see a little more butter on the bread with each product released.

I know it's kind of sad that the hobby has sort of been torn down with redemptions, missing hits and quality control mishaps as of late, but it's my opinion that Panini is doing their best to restore good faith in the consumers by making sure you get your guaranteed hits.

They send out replacements, which to me always seem to be solid replacements, if not a better card than the original.

Upper Deck seems to have stepped up their redemption support and stuff as of late, but I like to see the care taken with the actual product release and not with the mess that was left by not taking care of business when it was time..

Panini Prestige had how many extra Kobe Autos that weren't even listed? Sure it was rushed, sure the designs aren't always the best, but that was just Panini saying thank you to their customers and giving them a reason to have faith in the company.

Football they have improved designs from past years, added some cool subsets and the guys are signing, which to me means they're actually getting paid..

cniel2924 · 10-30-2009, 05:46 PM

Panini/Donruss have never done basketball cards so I think that plays into why they seem too much like the football designs and such, hopefully moving forward they will come out with more unique designs and cards that rivaled Exquisite etc...As far as Football I think it has been pretty stellar, any complaints or comments you would like to share?

Zacky1053 · 10-30-2009, 05:46 PM

Certified and Absolute seem to be the best they've been in awhile, and the big update was having all the Freshman Fabric cards autographed, whereas a couple years ago you could get a single jersey swatch numbered to like 750.

wju2004 · 10-30-2009, 05:50 PM

I have to agree that they have done a great job, especially with customer service. They have given me nice replacements such as a DeSean Jackson auto diecut to 24 from Elite for 2 Eric Wrights to 100 and an Antonio Pittman to 5. Definately a much better card.

Somehow a prize from their Facebook quizes during Nationals got lost. A Nicks 8x10 auto and replaced it with Mike Wallace and I'm a Steelers fan. So yes, big applause to Panini.

Zacky1053 · 10-30-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wju2004

I have to agree that they have done a great job, especially with customer service. They have given me nice replacements such as a DeSean Jackson auto diecut to 24 from Elite for 2 Eric Wrights to 100 and an Antonio Pittman to 5. Definately a much better card.

Somehow a prize from their Facebook quizes during Nationals got lost. A Nicks 8x10 auto and replaced it with Mike Wallace and I'm a Steelers fan. So yes, big applause to Panini.

I never catch them (the Facebook contests) in time...lol.

cniel2924 · 10-30-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacky1053

Certified and Absolute seem to be the best they've been in awhile, and the big update was having all the Freshman Fabric cards autographed, whereas a couple years ago you could get a single jersey swatch numbered to like 750.

Definitely seems like Panini is adding extra oomph with their wallet, Donruss is still basically the same company(never had any issues with them), now they are just backed with some real quality money

Not sure how it all works out, but I know that the products are superior. I see the effort personally and I think it deserves some praise and attention from collectors.

Maybe they're oversaturating the market as some would say, but I don't think so at all, I think it's just proper quality control and delivering on your product.

Have there been any delays for their Football releases under Panini?

cniel2924 · 10-30-2009, 05:56 PM

I really want to open a box of 09 Limited, for 80 bucks it seems like a killer box all types of potential pulls. That's my next purchase

rudyjustinfarrell · 10-30-2009, 06:02 PM

Some of the designs are a little too busy for me and that's coming from somebody that really likes flashy stuff. As far as content and quality control? I think Panini is doing very well. I enjoyed 09 Absolute and I'm loving me some 09 Limited. I don't expect Panini to get better and better but if they do? without slacking in the middle? Then good for them and good for us as customers. I support them.

Brad · 10-30-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cniel2924

Football they have improved designs from past years, added some cool subsets

uhhh, limited looks like certified, which looks like absolute, whcih looks like the 2006, 2007 and 2008 versions of those products.

most of the designs have been either too similar or very distracting. and they seem to have screwed up NT and contenders as well with those awful streaking/bubbling on-card autos.

cniel2924 · 10-30-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rudyjustinfarrell

Some of the designs are a little too busy for me and that's coming from somebody that really likes flashy stuff. As far as content and quality control? I think Panini is doing very well. I enjoyed 09 Absolute and I'm loving me some 09 Limited. I don't expect Panini to get better and better but if they do? without slacking in the middle? Then good for them and good for us as customers. I support them.

I can't wait to see their upcoming releases, there is definitely need for constructive criticism and work on designs, but Panini has shown from the beginning that they seem willing to listen to customers.

I don't expect them to get better and better, but they have moved in a positive direction even if it isn't some drastic change. Recently I had a rather poor box of certified and I made this thread with that being my last break from Panini

cniel2924 · 10-30-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bradolson

uhhh, limited looks like certified, which looks like absolute, whcih looks like the 2006, 2007 and 2008 versions of those products.

most of the designs have been either too similar or very distracting. and they seem to have screwed up NT and contenders as well with those awful streaking/bubbling on-card autos.

I haven't seen that yet dang, pics?

deltapi1049 · 10-30-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bradolson

uhhh, limited looks like certified, which looks like absolute, whcih looks like the 2006, 2007 and 2008 versions of those products.

most of the designs have been either too similar or very distracting. and they seem to have screwed up NT and contenders as well with those awful streaking/bubbling on-card autos.

Agreed, 100% this is not a good year for them.

fm8418 · 10-30-2009, 07:50 PM

how can Absolute be good when it's almost $150 for 4 hits right?

IndySportsCards · 10-30-2009, 08:02 PM

I agree, Panini rules. Best company out there.

achilles01987 · 10-30-2009, 09:12 PM

I love what Paninis doing! At first I heard that they weren't re-releasing Leaf Limited, but was later surprised to hear that they were, and that they just stripped the Limited off the name. Looks great and I'm already looking forward to 2010 product!

Zacky1053 · 10-30-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fm8418

how can Absolute be good when it's almost $150 for 4 hits right?

For awhile now, Absolute has been a $125-$150 box...so the price is no surprise, but the quality of hits IMO are better than they ever have been.

djohns30 · 10-30-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bradolson

uhhh, limited looks like certified, which looks like absolute, whcih looks like the 2006, 2007 and 2008 versions of those products.

most of the designs have been either too similar or very distracting. and they seem to have screwed up NT and contenders as well with those awful streaking/bubbling on-card autos.

I would have to agree with this. Yes, a few more hits but nothing new and not much of an effort for on card auto's. Plus the cards do not seem to hold there value.

10-30-2009, 05:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
cniel2924 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 673 cniel2924	Panini/Donruss have done a tremendous job with FB I think with Panini's takeover of the company we see a little more butter on the bread with each product released. I know it's kind of sad that the hobby has sort of been torn down with redemptions, missing hits and quality control mishaps as of late, but it's my opinion that Panini is doing their best to restore good faith in the consumers by making sure you get your guaranteed hits. They send out replacements, which to me always seem to be solid replacements, if not a better card than the original. Upper Deck seems to have stepped up their redemption support and stuff as of late, but I like to see the care taken with the actual product release and not with the mess that was left by not taking care of business when it was time.. Panini Prestige had how many extra Kobe Autos that weren't even listed? Sure it was rushed, sure the designs aren't always the best, but that was just Panini saying thank you to their customers and giving them a reason to have faith in the company. Football they have improved designs from past years, added some cool subsets and the guys are signing, which to me means they're actually getting paid..

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wju2004 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Round on the ends and 'hi' in the middle. Posts: 3,840 percussionist	I have to agree that they have done a great job, especially with customer service. They have given me nice replacements such as a DeSean Jackson auto diecut to 24 from Elite for 2 Eric Wrights to 100 and an Antonio Pittman to 5. Definately a much better card. Somehow a prize from their Facebook quizes during Nationals got lost. A Nicks 8x10 auto and replaced it with Mike Wallace and I'm a Steelers fan. So yes, big applause to Panini. __________________ THE Nate Davis Collector. www.photobucket.com/wju2004 HOF Auto needs: www.freewebs.com/wju2004

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achilles01987 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,075	I love what Paninis doing! At first I heard that they weren't re-releasing Leaf Limited, but was later surprised to hear that they were, and that they just stripped the Limited off the name. Looks great and I'm already looking forward to 2010 product! __________________ Collecting Adrian Peterson Topps Chrome, game used items and 2011 Chrome and Platinum Christian Ponder autos!! photobucket.com/albums/ss359/achilles01987/

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10-30-2009, 05:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
cniel2924 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 673 cniel2924	Panini/Donruss have never done basketball cards so I think that plays into why they seem too much like the football designs and such, hopefully moving forward they will come out with more unique designs and cards that rivaled Exquisite etc...As far as Football I think it has been pretty stellar, any complaints or comments you would like to share?

10-30-2009, 05:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zacky1053 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21,463 Zacky1053	Certified and Absolute seem to be the best they've been in awhile, and the big update was having all the Freshman Fabric cards autographed, whereas a couple years ago you could get a single jersey swatch numbered to like 750.

10-30-2009, 05:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
cniel2924 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 673 cniel2924	I really want to open a box of 09 Limited, for 80 bucks it seems like a killer box all types of potential pulls. That's my next purchase

10-30-2009, 06:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
rudyjustinfarrell Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,519 rudyjustinfarrell	Some of the designs are a little too busy for me and that's coming from somebody that really likes flashy stuff. As far as content and quality control? I think Panini is doing very well. I enjoyed 09 Absolute and I'm loving me some 09 Limited. I don't expect Panini to get better and better but if they do? without slacking in the middle? Then good for them and good for us as customers. I support them.

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fm8418 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toledo, ohio Posts: 5,578 fm8418 fm8418	how can Absolute be good when it's almost $150 for 4 hits right?