Question for all collectors here

ramsrule · 02-10-2013, 11:27 PM

I just recently got a John Elway autograph card in a trade. It came from a fellow collector, and he has good feedback, I trust this guy. A guy I know out here was visiting the other day, and he looks at this Elway auto card, and asks if i am wanting to sell it. I never say never. You just never know if you get an offer you cannot refuse. So he looks at it, and says well it is not numbered, there is no "COA" that is normally printed on the back of the card by panini. He says the auto sticker centering is to perfect for him. He then goes on to say, I just don't know about it. I think someone could have gotten the sticker off another card of a "lower" player, then washed the auto off it, and then forged Elways' auto on it. I do not believe him on this at all. But for arguements sake so i can throw it in his face. For those that know the safety features on Panini auto stickers. What are the odds of this happening ? The Sticker has the Holographic authenticators on it. If anyone wants to know. I think this guy is just trying to find a way to get it for cheaper, what do you all think ? I appreciate any feedback . I think this card is legit, I got it for myself mainly.

Chaddie84 · 02-10-2013, 11:34 PM

A picture/scan would really help.

barberromo2008 · 02-10-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaddie84

A picture/scan would really help.

I agree most of us have seen our share of fake autos or at least can see if the right information is on the card.

ramsrule · 02-11-2013, 10:08 PM

will post scan of it shortly within the hour

ramsrule · 02-11-2013, 10:57 PM

Here are scans of it. Again I think this is an authentic auto card.

TUV7 · 02-14-2013, 03:53 PM

I think it's a fake. I pulled that exact card back in 2008, and mine is serial numbered /25. Plus, I own a few Elway autos and your auto looks a lot different than any of mine.

Sorry for the bad news.

allabtsprt · 02-14-2013, 08:14 PM

I opened tons of that product and pulled an Elway. It's DEFINITELY a fake!

cowboyfaninlr · 02-14-2013, 09:51 PM

I agree, I have several Elway autos and it does look fake to me.

ramsrule · 02-14-2013, 10:19 PM

Well the autograph does look similar to other Elway auto cards that are here that i have matched up to that are certified cards by panini and others. I just want to be sure about it is all.

barberromo2008 · 02-15-2013, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ramsrule

Well the autograph does look similar to other Elway auto cards that are here that i have matched up to that are certified cards by panini and others. I just want to be sure about it is all.

What makes it look fake is the 7 is different and the J and WY are different from the autos I have looked at. Only way to be sure send it in to Beckett o PSA and just get the auto certified

ramsrule · 02-16-2013, 12:09 AM

I contacted Panini cards, they asked me to send it in, and they are going to look at it, and if it is authentic, and they verify it is one of theirs they said they will authenticate it. If not they will return it to me, and I will contact the one i traded with, and get it rectified.

barberromo2008 · 02-16-2013, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ramsrule

I contacted Panini cards, they asked me to send it in, and they are going to look at it, and if it is authentic, and they verify it is one of theirs they said they will authenticate it. If not they will return it to me, and I will contact the one i traded with, and get it rectified.

Thats a pretty good deal.

02-10-2013, 11:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
ramsrule Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 191	Question for all collectors here I just recently got a John Elway autograph card in a trade. It came from a fellow collector, and he has good feedback, I trust this guy. A guy I know out here was visiting the other day, and he looks at this Elway auto card, and asks if i am wanting to sell it. I never say never. You just never know if you get an offer you cannot refuse. So he looks at it, and says well it is not numbered, there is no "COA" that is normally printed on the back of the card by panini. He says the auto sticker centering is to perfect for him. He then goes on to say, I just don't know about it. I think someone could have gotten the sticker off another card of a "lower" player, then washed the auto off it, and then forged Elways' auto on it. I do not believe him on this at all. But for arguements sake so i can throw it in his face. For those that know the safety features on Panini auto stickers. What are the odds of this happening ? The Sticker has the Holographic authenticators on it. If anyone wants to know. I think this guy is just trying to find a way to get it for cheaper, what do you all think ? I appreciate any feedback . I think this card is legit, I got it for myself mainly.

02-10-2013, 11:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chaddie84 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 4,611 Chaddie84 Chaddie84	A picture/scan would really help. __________________ COMC Auto-Accept Set to 30% Off INTERESTS: Roger Maris, Harmon Killebrew, Michael Cuddyer, Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen, and most FB/BB HOF Autographs and Relics

02-11-2013, 10:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
ramsrule Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 191	card will post scan of it shortly within the hour

02-11-2013, 10:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
ramsrule Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 191	Elway card Here are scans of it. Again I think this is an authentic auto card. Attached Thumbnails

02-14-2013, 09:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
cowboyfaninlr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 697 cowboyfaninlr cowboyfaninlr	I agree, I have several Elway autos and it does look fake to me. __________________ Army Strong. Resident Cowboys & Rangers FANATIC!!!! Welcome Abbye Dawn Stair 7-5-12

02-14-2013, 03:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
TUV7 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 13	I think it's a fake. I pulled that exact card back in 2008, and mine is serial numbered /25. Plus, I own a few Elway autos and your auto looks a lot different than any of mine. Sorry for the bad news.

02-14-2013, 08:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
allabtsprt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 50	I opened tons of that product and pulled an Elway. It's DEFINITELY a fake!

02-14-2013, 10:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
ramsrule Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 191	more card info Well the autograph does look similar to other Elway auto cards that are here that i have matched up to that are certified cards by panini and others. I just want to be sure about it is all.

02-16-2013, 12:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
ramsrule Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 191	info on elway auto I contacted Panini cards, they asked me to send it in, and they are going to look at it, and if it is authentic, and they verify it is one of theirs they said they will authenticate it. If not they will return it to me, and I will contact the one i traded with, and get it rectified.

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