2013 Leaf Draft Football

[wheeler281]

Looks like they back doored some 1/1 prizmatics this year. One guy in Texas(hmmm) selling lacy 1/1's and others etc. What are the chances

[dustin9900]

No Lattimore or Ellington yet on the bay.....One Hopkins so far.

[WJCIII]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

Looks like they back doored some 1/1 prizmatics this year. One guy in Texas(hmmm) selling lacy 1/1's and others etc. What are the chances

When you bust 20 cases the odds are pretty good. I don't know if they guarantee it or not but there's pretty much at least 1 1/1 of some sort in every case.

[WJCIII]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I guess if you get in and get out the $ is there, stuff just falls off the earth once the NFL stuff hits. Don't you feel you would do better with auctions though instead of the high BIN's you have? Just a honest question really no knock on you.

That's a fair question and certainly not a bad approach but I'm simply sticking with what has worked for me in the past. I've done this every year with Leaf Metal football and I've always come out ahead so I'm taking an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" approach. It could turn out to be the wrong decision but I guess time will tell.

[dustin9900]

Originally Posted by WJCIII

When you bust 20 cases the odds are pretty good. I don't know if they guarantee it or not but there's pretty much at least 1 1/1 of some sort in every case.

Don't worry it's Leaf, haters are going to hate.

So pull any of Mr. Lattimore? Would be interested in even some base.

[dustin9900]

Originally Posted by WJCIII

That's a fair question and certainly not a bad approach but I'm simply sticking with what has worked for me in the past. I've done this every year with Leaf Metal football and I've always come out ahead so I'm taking an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" approach. It could turn out to be the wrong decision but I guess time will tell.

I personally like the college stuff. And there are plenty others that feel the same way. But yeah its more of a sell it fast type of product. Get it while its hot.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by dustin9900

Don't worry it's Leaf, haters are going to hate.

I love leaf and I actually like Brian as well as college gear. In fact he has helped quite a bit with some Pete Rose's I had questions to through personal email. So that comment has absolutely no bearing on me. "haters going to hate"?? What are we 12

Something just does not add up so I commented...Very easy to disprove though

[WJCIII]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

I love leaf and I actually like Brian as well as college gear. In fact he has helped quite a bit with some Pete Rose's I had questions to through personal email. So that comment has absolutely no bearing on me. "haters going to hate"?? What are we 12

Something just does not add up so I commented...Very easy to disprove though

I definitely beat the odds on the supers. All other odds on blues, greens, reds, etc. were pretty average and I got crushed on the odds on the redemption card. I got pretty lucky with the players too but if you notice I got no Geno or Barkley, the 2 biggest guys in the set.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by WJCIII

I definitely beat the odds on the supers. All other odds on blues, greens, reds, etc. were pretty average and I got crushed on the odds on the redemption card. I got pretty lucky with the players too but if you notice I got no Geno or Barkley, the 2 biggest guys in the set.

see and I think you did well. Geno and Barkley by camp will not be the biggest guys in the set. This is a RB year

[WJCIII]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

see and I think you did well. Geno and Barkley by camp will not be the biggest guys in the set. This is a RB year

I absolutely love Eddie Lacy which you can tell from my high prices on him. I think he's a 25 carry per game back and if he ends up in a place like Green Bay his stuff will be huge. I also like Lattimore, Bernard, Barner, and a couple of other guys. I do think Geno will be good and this could very well be a year where you find a diamond in the rough from guys like Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, and E.J. Manuel. I like the potential from the guys I pulled but I definitely think from a selling perspective Geno and Barkley are the guys to pull. Maybe not long term but temporarily at least.

[pnft17]

Great timing from Leaf on this with combine. Good product to get in on early
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Funny how people complain about anything. Now we even have people crying about getting a product too early. Next will here people bitching they didn't pull any redemptions.

Te'o and Honey Badger will sell well.

[Bryanjs14]

Just pulled the Mystery cut / art redemption that is rumored to be Johnny Manziel.

Any guess how many of these were inserted?

[FreeMan12406]

Originally Posted by ajscards101

Happen to pull any Conner Vernon? (duke WR)

Looks like I'll have some competition!

[ajscards101]

Originally Posted by FreeMan12406

Looks like I'll have some competition!

I'm not really looking for anything and everything, just one or two autos of his for my Duke PC.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

Looks like they back doored some 1/1 prizmatics this year. One guy in Texas(hmmm) selling lacy 1/1's and others etc. What are the chances

Originally Posted by WJCIII

When you bust 20 cases the odds are pretty good. I don't know if they guarantee it or not but there's pretty much at least 1 1/1 of some sort in every case.

I just found out you work for Leaf. It all makes sense now

[matt roberson]

^ truth?...........

[ajscards101]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

I just found out you work for Leaf. It all makes sense now

Proof????

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[wheeler281]

Do not need proof for all to see I am commenting to him. If he wants to he can respond.

[matt roberson]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

Do not need proof for all to see I am commenting to him. If he wants to he can respond.

Is it true though?....... He can choose to defend himself or not but the masses still deserve to know if this is the truth.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by matt roberson

Is it true though?....... He can choose to defend himself or not but the masses still deserve to know if this is the truth.

not sure of the role at the company but he does work there.

edit not saying anything was fraudulent. Just makes sense as to why he wold buy 20 cases imo. On the surface it looks bad but could be a completely legit transaction. I mean if i worked at any manufacturer I would use my company discount to purchase cards as well. Some should read the book card sharks. UD use to give cases as options

[Junior Griffey]

It is true that he works for them in some capacity, but he is a standup guy. Not the best looking move from Leaf's standpoint, but Joe is a standup guy.

[FreeMan12406]

Leaf Valiant is up on eBay. Just picked up a Conner Vernon green.

[cinnakaok]

Originally Posted by FreeMan12406

Leaf Valiant is up on eBay. Just picked up a Conner Vernon green.

can't wait to see your start. Just picked up two Josh Boyce Valiant's today

[matt roberson]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

not sure of the role at the company but he does work there.

edit not saying anything was fraudulent. Just makes sense as to why he wold buy 20 cases imo. On the surface it looks bad but could be a completely legit transaction. I mean if i worked at any manufacturer I would use my company discount to purchase cards as well. Some should read the book card sharks. UD use to give cases as options

Originally Posted by Junior Griffey

It is true that he works for them in some capacity, but he is a standup guy. Not the best looking move from Leaf's standpoint, but Joe is a standup guy.

They should almost not let employees buy the product just because it looks shady, or make them wait a week or two after release.

The fact that they get pick of the litter and more then likely a discount is shady as #@#@#@#@ IMO (not talkig about the seller, more about Mr. Grey and his company)

think about it? What if the employees pooled their money and bought and busted until they hit the grail of the product (or a big ass hit, what if they only bought a case and hit the grail before you had the chance to buy some)..... then Leaf sells the rest to the public without disclosing that info.

Not to mention they would be killing the secondary market before non employees could even buy, bust and list.....THIS HAPPENED.

Sounds way to easy....this was just for example, I have no insider info on what happened.

The more I hear about Leaf though, the shadier they seem.

With that said I do really like Leaf draft.
I just wish UD had a chrome product so I could get shiny refractors of Badgers with logos on their jerseys and cards.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by matt roberson

They should almost not let employees buy the product just because it looks shady, or make them wait a week or two after release.

I agree but it is well documented all the companies have an employee option. Just made sense to me why some would would bust 20 cases of Leaf.(because of a discount)