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Old 07-23-2013, 11:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Are graded cards really worth that much more than raw?

Been thinking of picking up a few PC cards on ebay, looking at the difference between different card raw values and graded values there is quite a bit of difference.

Am I better off trying to eyeball a nice raw card with a good scan or going ahead and dropping the money for graded?
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Been thinking of picking up a few PC cards on ebay, looking at the difference between different card raw values and graded values there is quite a bit of difference.

Am I better off trying to eyeball a nice raw card with a good scan or going ahead and dropping the money for graded?
If the seller has a lot of graded cards for sell, there's a good chance the raws have been picked thru.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I like a 10 card as much as the next guy but I wont pay 10x more for it then a nice 8.5 or 9
some people want that 10 and will pay for it.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'll say this, as a fun tip. I pick up lower grade cards from the 1980's to present just for my PC not as an investment for less than the cost of the grading itself, so under $5, and the card comes in a nice slab. Generally that means getting 7's and 8's, but those are still nice cards.

I find a lot of folks who submit and get low grade cards just dump them on auctions and most buyers don't want 'em as investments, but they're better than getting raw cards sometimes so you know exactly what you're getting and it's in a nice slab.

That's what I say about graded cards.

I'll say this to that point, if you have a modern card and it looks not so great, you're better off selling it raw (but don't misrepresent yourself with bad scans) and allowing the buyer to make their own decision rather than have the albatross of a sub 9 grade and the expenses of going through the grading process (about $10 per card) adding to your acquisition costs to recoup by a sales price.
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Depends..

Is what my bif needs
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I use this as a good rule of thumb:

BGS 9.5 50% premium ($200 raw, $300 9.5)
9 10% premium depending on subs and pop report
8.5 10% decrease.

PSA10s, depending on population, usually can carry a 75% premium over the raw

most sellers with BINs vastly over value 9.5s. safest bet is to aim for auctions
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Yes its worth the premium. Whether people want to accept it or npt, believe it or not a 9.5 is worth the premium. Just look at raw vs 9.5 auctions.
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IT all depends on the card in my opinion. Some cards are known for chipping and such, in those cases I'd prefer a PSA 10/BGS 9.5. IF the card isn't defect prone, I'll just get a nice copy of a raw card
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If the seller has a lot of graded cards for sell, there's a good chance the raws have been picked thru.
I agree. I hesitate buying an ungraded card from someone who has graded cards for sale because if it was good it would also be graded
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to me, there's nothing worse than buying a card and seeing it's damaged in some way. I pay for quality but grading haters love to hate
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I have received a few certified autograph cards that were graded. I cut them open to get the cards out so I could resell them.
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Been thinking of picking up a few PC cards on ebay, looking at the difference between different card raw values and graded values there is quite a bit of difference.

Am I better off trying to eyeball a nice raw card with a good scan or going ahead and dropping the money for graded?
I'll pay a decent premium for pc cards graded bgs 9.5 or psa 10. I did receive a psa 10 with a ding on the side of the card. It doesn't help my faith in psa graders.


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to me, there's nothing worse than buying a card and seeing it's damaged in some way. I pay for quality but grading haters love to hate
I agree, I too pay for condition.

The trend toward terrible packaging also makes graded cards more appealing to me. Out of the 20+ packages I receive each day at least one lacks any form of rigid material, including a top loader and at least two are in the wrong size top loader.

BGS holders easily crack/chip and many sellers don't ship properly. Even BGS does a poor job of shipping their own holders.
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I'll pay a decent premium for pc cards graded bgs 9.5 or psa 10. I did receive a psa 10 with a ding on the side of the card. It doesn't help my faith in psa graders.


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It is very possible the ding on the side of the card was caused by the holder itself. It probably was a 10 when it went into the holder.

I am on the fence with grading, I am buying 70's, 80's HOF rookies, at it is much easier finding grading examples of good cards over raw.
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