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Old 03-13-2014, 03:56 PM   #176 (permalink)
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One of the Packers Twitter guys said today, "If the Packers brought in an up-and-coming CB, signed a DE/OLB hybrid to a short term deal, and a blocking/pass-catching tight end in free agency, would you be happier?" Still kept those guys around.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:07 PM   #177 (permalink)
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People that are surprised with the lack of FA moves, I would have to ask them how long have they been Packers fan? This is what the Packers do, if you go out and pay FA's that most likely means that Cobb, Nelson, Bulaga would be gone next year. This is what the Packers do they draft and develop. Shields was basically our big FA this year.
I've been a Packers fan for my entire life, and yes recently we have not been a big free agent type of team. I get it. However, THIS YEAR was supposed to be different because the holes in our D were so big that we NEED a veteran presence to fill the void. Not to mention that there were rumors stating that we were supposed to be big spenders, and even though we didn't get Byrd or anything we still need to snag someone of importance.

I also agree that Cobb and Nelson should be priorities and I guarantee that TT has a plan to retain them for MANY years to come. When it comes to retention, Ted never disappoints.

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I think that the surprise came after the "sources" said the Packers were going to make a push for a bigger FA period.

Then again, maybe they did and didn't get anyone... or it was just smoke.

Either way, this has been a typical offseason. I would still like them to fill the hole at Safety before the draft. I would hate to have to trust the big guys falling enough to snag them and even so, safety development will take more than one year (especially with how complicated Dom's system is).
I agree. On one hand, history shows us that the big winners in F/A come about 3 weeks after the "gates open." Maybe we are just biding our time? That being said, we can't assume that a rookie safety or DL is going to have a major impact, no matter how good they were in college. We NEED to came a move, and I think it needs to be made by Monday.
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People that are surprised with the lack of FA moves, I would have to ask them how long have they been Packers fan? This is what the Packers do, if you go out and pay FA's that most likely means that Cobb, Nelson, Bulaga would be gone next year. This is what the Packers do they draft and develop. Shields was basically our big FA this year.
I've been a Packer fan since I was 10 years old. This isn't what the Packers do...it's what Ted Thompson does. Has it worked? That's questionable. He's had some pretty sucky drafts. This year was the year we could have made a play for Byrd or a big defensive linemen. That hasn't happened. We've won a Super Bowl with Ted Thompson...but we've had several one and dones. It's time to open the packer checkbook and fix this God awful defense.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:34 PM   #179 (permalink)
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One of the Packers Twitter guys said today, "If the Packers brought in an up-and-coming CB, signed a DE/OLB hybrid to a short term deal, and a blocking/pass-catching tight end in free agency, would you be happier?" Still kept those guys around.
Normally, that makes a whole lot of sense...

Except for the fact that we had these guys and struggled on defense and that blocking/pass-catching TE was pretty average.

Don't get me wrong, I love getting these guys back if they can take that next step, but part of FA is filling your holes and these guys are like taking the same dirt you took out and putting it back in the hole.
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I've been a Packer fan since I was 10 years old. This isn't what the Packers do...it's what Ted Thompson does. Has it worked? That's questionable. He's had some pretty sucky drafts. This year was the year we could have made a play for Byrd or a big defensive linemen. That hasn't happened. We've won a Super Bowl with Ted Thompson...but we've had several one and dones. It's time to open the packer checkbook and fix this God awful defense.
Ted Thompson has a system and he is fully invested in it. The bad couple drafts have hurt the team, but they did really well last year and hopefully they can duplicate it this season.

As a Packers fan, making the playoffs 5 straight years with a Super Bowl win is better than 95% of the teams out there.

I will trust in his system until it stops working... even if that means boring offseasons.
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I've been a Packer fan since I was 10 years old. This isn't what the Packers do...it's what Ted Thompson does. Has it worked? That's questionable. He's had some pretty sucky drafts. This year was the year we could have made a play for Byrd or a big defensive linemen. That hasn't happened. We've won a Super Bowl with Ted Thompson...but we've had several one and dones. It's time to open the packer checkbook and fix this God awful defense.

Do you happen to remember what happened to the Packers financially during the Sherman regime when he was GM? He basically over payed for Free Agents and basically put the Packers in Cap Hell which resulted in Ted Thompson having no choice but to blow up the team and start from scratch. IMO this is what is going to happen with the Broncos when Manning retires and they have all of these high priced FA's. That front office better hope they win a super bowl very soon or they are likely going to be shown the door.

I recently saw that the Packers and the Patriots are the only 2 teams to make the playoffs 5 years in a row. Two of the teams that historically dont really pay a lot of guys through FA (Revis deal aside) so obviously what Ted Thompson is doing is working, and you cant expect him to just all of a sudden start opening up the checkbook and start paying for the Byrd type FA's.

By the way getting Quarless for 2 years at $3 Million is a very good deal, borderline steal for a proven quality FA. Just go back and watch the Cowboys game to see what he can do.
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Do you happen to remember what happened to the Packers financially during the Sherman regime when he was GM? He basically over payed for Free Agents and basically put the Packers in Cap Hell which resulted in Ted Thompson having no choice but to blow up the team and start from scratch. IMO this is what is going to happen with the Broncos when Manning retires and they have all of these high priced FA's. That front office better hope they win a super bowl very soon or they are likely going to be shown the door.

I recently saw that the Packers and the Patriots are the only 2 teams to make the playoffs 5 years in a row. Two of the teams that historically dont really pay a lot of guys through FA (Revis deal aside) so obviously what Ted Thompson is doing is working, and you cant expect him to just all of a sudden start opening up the checkbook and start paying for the Byrd type FA's.

By the way getting Quarless for 2 years at $3 Million is a very good deal, borderline steal for a proven quality FA. Just go back and watch the Cowboys game to see what he can do.
I agree AND a stand by the motto "In Ted I Trust" BUTTTTT what Brandon said is correct: We need to open the check book and get SOMEONE of quality off the of F/A wire. I am not saying there needs to be signing everyday, but the hole in our D is too big to fix via (solely) the draft. As I mentioned earlier, Ted is great at retention and seeing the big picture and I have all the faith in the world in him when it comes to keeping key players. F/A is where he is a little too shy.
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I agree AND a stand by the motto "In Ted I Trust" BUTTTTT what Brandon said is correct: We need to open the check book and get SOMEONE of quality off the of F/A wire. I am not saying there needs to be signing everyday, but the hole in our D is too big to fix via (solely) the draft. As I mentioned earlier, Ted is great at retention and seeing the big picture and I have all the faith in the world in him when it comes to keeping key players. F/A is where he is a little too shy.
One thing about TT, and it has always been true even when he gets guys, they almost NEVER come during the first week of FA. Right now is when the teams spend and most overpay. I think just about the only steal I can recall from this last week was Verner to the Bucs. Outside of that, just about every contract seemed incredibly inflated.

Denver spent the farm on three guys when I don't believe their defense was the huge problem last season... the huge problem was Manning got bum rushed and had no answer. Denver's window is next year... that is pretty much it. They still aren't better than Seattle or SF with who they got.

Right now is when the bad or desperate teams splurge. The only exception/shock I saw was NE dropping mad coin on Revis. The only difference between NE and GB is that Brady's window for winning is very small. Rodgers is 30, Brady is 37. If Thompson is around when Rodgers is near the end, I would expect a few more reaches in FA.
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EDS signed with Tampa Bay today...that makes me a little sad. He's been one of my favorites.

BJ Raji back on a one-year deal, though.
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EDS signed with Tampa Bay today...that makes me a little sad. He's been one of my favorites.

BJ Raji back on a one-year deal, though.
Hopefully J.C. Tretter does well at Center.
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Hopefully J.C. Tretter does well at Center.
Somebody must've seen something, but I don't like letting EDS go. His versatility was a huge factor.
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EDS signed with Tampa Bay today...that makes me a little sad. He's been one of my favorites.

BJ Raji back on a one-year deal, though.

Im not that upset with EDS leaving, especially for 4 years at $14.5 Mill. I would rather spend that money on defense. I think Tretter could be a viable replacement at Center and dosent cost nearly as much and is also younger.

Im really happy with Raji being resigned. Apparently he is the one that wanted to be signed back to a one year deal to possibly get a pay day next off season. He should play NT this year where he had his best season in 2010. I honestly dont think you could find a better option in FA for a quality NT for 1 year at about 4 million.
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I am halfway happy to see BJ back, and half way sad. I hope that Raji moves back to NT and Mike Daniels gets put in at DE.
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I am halfway happy to see BJ back, and half way sad. I hope that Raji moves back to NT and Mike Daniels gets put in at DE.
It sounds like the reason BJ signed with Green Bay again is because they promised to move him back to NT.
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It sounds like the reason BJ signed with Green Bay again is because they promised to move him back to NT.
Aye, I read something similar but it didn't outright say so, just sort of "hinted" at it.

Here is my lone B.J. Raji auto (thanks a ton Brandon!) I think once Raji gets back to NT we will see him get back to his former glory. I will never forget that Pick 6.

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It sounds like the reason BJ signed with Green Bay again is because they promised to move him back to NT.
If true, I think that would be great news. That's where he should be
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Aye, I read something similar but it didn't outright say so, just sort of "hinted" at it.

Here is my lone B.J. Raji auto (thanks a ton Brandon!) I think once Raji gets back to NT we will see him get back to his former glory. I will never forget that Pick 6.

You're welcome, buddy! I hope it's true and he plays NT. That's the reason they drafted him so high...let the man do what he does best!
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Old 03-15-2014, 09:51 AM   #194 (permalink)
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Just signed Peppers to a 3 year deal.
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Here it is:

Julius Peppers agrees to deal with Green Bay Packers - ESPN

Good move I think.
So far we've signed an up and coming CB in Shields, a nice Hybrid combo in Neal, Raji on a 1-year prove yourself deal (could of had $8 million last year) and decent TE in Quarless.
I'm surprised they actually spent money on Peppers like most of us, but it's a good move and he fits in real well.
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I don't know what to think about this...

One hand, Peppers WAS a fantastic player... on the other hand, Peppers WAS a fantastic player.

Sounds like he is on a low money, rental deal... which I am okay with. Packers had the money to spend.
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I don't know what to think about this...

One hand, Peppers WAS a fantastic player... on the other hand, Peppers WAS a fantastic player.

Sounds like he is on a low money, rental deal... which I am okay with. Packers had the money to spend.
That's what I'm thinking too. All the money is in the front so if he sucks, we can cut him without a huge cap hit.
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I like it....People have been talking about his age and how the Pack overpaid, BS....Reggie White was 34 when he came over to The Pack and we saw how that worked out. When you can get a player of this Caliber its pays dividends all the way around....like Charles Woodson.

We needed to get the focus off Clay as much as we could....now we did, I look forward to anyone not giving JP the respect he deserves. I think Nick Perry and BJ will benefit the most out this and BJ needs a career year if he plans to get pain in the long term.

Great Pick Up....I would take JP over Lamarr Houston any days, and twice on Sunday.

I am happy to see TT open the check book in a very Team Friendly Deal, not a Joe Johnson type deal by any means.
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Im personally pumped about this deal. When clay is hurt, we have no pass rush whatsoever. And Clay is always hurt. This allows us to have a great pass rush off both ends when he's healthy, and an existence to our pass rush remains when he is hurt. I think playing in the same division, for a contender will only motivate Peppers to play even harder. I think he still has some fuel in the tank.
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ecstatic about the signing, we have nothing to lose. he sucks, cut him after this season. he doesn't, clay is going to not see as many double teams. it could really open up the pass rush and that can only help the secondary.

We still need a starting quality FS though.....Chris Clemons por favor.
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