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Old 11-18-2011, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 5 Boxes of NEW 2011-12 Certified Hockey

Here are the scans of my hits and then my thoughts and recap below those:









This was 5 boxes of an eight box case and I saw the other 3 opened as well and there was NO HOT BOX in the case. Big fail Panini. (Big Thumbs Down)

Here's a recap / thoughts:
1) The case contained 3 patch cards, 2 rookie auto jerseys /499, 2 private signings, the fotg auto jersey and a bunch of non numbered rookie autos. (thumbs down)
2) Although the rookie autos are on-card, they are also not numbered. (thumbs up cancels thumbs down)
3) The foil inserts are also not numbered except for the parallels. (thumbs down)
4) Why can't Panini make non-numbered base foil rookies as part of the base set, do them 5 per box and have 40 in the set so an 8-box case yields you the set. In this day and age of the hobby, they should be doing whatever they can to add value to products and something like this would not cost any more. We don't need Kyle Okposo, Paul Stastny, and Barrett Jackman base cards. They could still do Freshman Signatures and Freshmen Fabric Signatures as well.
5) If you're going to do 150 different FOTG jerseys numbered to /399, at least do them 1 per pack.

I gave Panini one last shot figuring they would come out swinging with the first mid range product of 2011-12 and they took a big swing and a miss.

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I thought Certified hot boxes were one per master case, not the 8 box inner case? I think that was the deal last year, not completely sure though.

This years product looks miles better than last years though, I will buy a bunch of this for sure.
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I will buy NONE of it. I'll hold out for SP Game Used. Thank you for posting your break and information!! I appreciate it.
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I will buy NONE of it. I'll hold out for SP Game Used. Thank you for posting your break and information!! I appreciate it.
Not sure why you're not liking certified. I love the design, and it seems like all of the hits are pretty decent. I wont be buying a case of it, but I'll try a box.
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Not sure why you're not liking certified. I love the design, and it seems like all of the hits are pretty decent. I wont be buying a case of it, but I'll try a box.
I believe I listed why I don't like Certified. Did you not read that?
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I believe I listed why I don't like Certified. Did you not read that?
I think he was talking to me, but I trust Solts review of the product as he's an experienced hockey buyer, and alongside his review, my lack of faith in Panini, and the fact that I'm just now getting redemptions from last Novembers Certified, I don't feel like subjecting myself to their hockey-terror again.

Cards look nice, but I'm spending less this year that previously and am choosing less products with less headaches, and for me, that's UD SP Game Used instead of this stuff.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i really like the design this year, but i agree that not serial numbering really hurts.
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I believe I listed why I don't like Certified. Did you not read that?
Comment was in reply to Indy's. Did you not read that? . Jk jk. Thanks for the review, btw. Looks like a very nice product, but not something I'll be busting a case of.
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I think he was talking to me, but I trust Solts review of the product as he's an experienced hockey buyer, and alongside his review, my lack of faith in Panini, and the fact that I'm just now getting redemptions from last Novembers Certified, I don't feel like subjecting myself to their hockey-terror again.

Cards look nice, but I'm spending less this year that previously and am choosing less products with less headaches, and for me, that's UD SP Game Used instead of this stuff.
Makes sense. Not much money to make off this stuff, and it beats those year long headaches this stuff can give you. Why SPGU is my question? I'd rather bust SPA or Artifacts instead. Not saying SPGU is bad (I'll still be trying a box), just that I'd rather open the other two previously stated.
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Makes sense. Not much money to make off this stuff, and it beats those year long headaches this stuff can give you. Why SPGU is my question? I'd rather bust SPA or Artifacts instead. Not saying SPGU is bad (I'll still be trying a box), just that I'd rather open the other two previously stated.
Because it's actual game used stuff and you can pull some incredible hits out of it. SPA is Rookie driven, and Artifacts just doesn't have enough for the money IMHO.. Over the years I just prefer SPGU over those, although I will still buy a few boxes of SPA. It's a great product too.
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Can I ask how you got these boxes so early? I thought release date was set for November 28? Thanx!
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I love SPGU
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Nice Sharks hits
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Can I ask how you got these boxes so early? I thought release date was set for November 28? Thanx!
Panini sent them out, ask them.
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Thank you Captain Obvious!
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I like the looks of the auto rcs (like the Totally Certified design). Getting tired of the small square Fabric of the Game jerseys. Not numbering the cards is getting to be a recurring theme with Panini.
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Price on Postma and Tatar. Thanks!
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this product is a big dud in my eyes
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Can I ask how you got these boxes so early? I thought release date was set for November 28? Thanx!
I believe 28th is the release for online dealers that are authorized, where the 21st is technical release for hobby stores. Just a guess if he got them at a shop.
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my shop will have them tomorrow, but I'm not opening any of it.
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my shop will have them tomorrow, but I'm not opening any of it.
Thats a pretty good choice ma man
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let me know what you'd like for the Da Costa...if you're selling.
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The 2010/2011 Season Ticket cards looked FAKE on the back of them. Looked like a scan of a scan of a scan. I bought a Season Ticket Rookie Card on Ebay and when I turned it over, I really thought I got scammed. I was about to rant and rave but I brought it in to my LCS and they said " No its legit. And I LOVE them. The back you will get used to"

I WILL GET USED TO? ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME? YOU PAY HOW MUCH FOR A SINGLE BOX AND I HAVE TO "GET USED TO" A CARD LOOKING LIKE THE DAMN PRINTING INK WAS RUNNING OUT?

It was rediculous. Now that being said, did I buy a box of 11/12? Yes. I bought a few boxes. Their cards look MUCH better now but I just couldnt believe Panini. And my "hits" werent the greatest. Granted I didnt buy a case, but come on. With two full time above average incomes living in NY and owning a home and having a small kid, WHO THE HELL COULD AFFORD A CASE?!
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