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Old 04-20-2014, 02:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb UD lowering production of # rookies from initial sell sheets?

When 13-14 spx previews came out they had #699 and #399 rookies listed. They dropped hugely when product came out to #399 and #249 for the short prints. #249 is a very low number for a mid - end upper deck product.

Obviously spx is old news and sells for pennies on the dollar already even with a good rookie class and half the production.
Beckett will finish that set to the grave too...


Now fleer showcase preview was #399 and #199. Set comes out #375 and #175 for short prints. Slightly lower production.

Less is better obviously as the market is horrible since no one ever breaks boxes/cases and keeps them. Everything goes on ebay the same day. Every group break I'm in the cards are on ebay faster than I can take a #@#@#@#@. There's just not enough people to buy all this junk.

I think they should do the same to SPA which I know they won't because of "tradition".But who really wants 999 Macinnon ' s out there...spare me the whole people collect the set.....even in #299 quantities there'd be plenty to go around. That's how bad demand is and how few true collectors exist today.

So what were UD's intention with these slight changes? Usually they want to pump more and more double class crap on us. Reminds me of 12-13 basketball as how this year might end up....hopefully not.

Anyway, back to watching hockey.....
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Old 04-23-2014, 03:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i love spx as a product. awesome cards and working on the rpa set. If they sell cheap that is fine with me as it is easier to complete the set
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Who do you need?

I have a few.
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I hear you on the demand not being there, even with a loaded rookie class. The market is so soft right now, there's just way too many cards of each rookie. Definitely hurting values of cards.
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might also have to do with the size of the rc class
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Less is better obviously as the market is horrible since no one ever breaks boxes/cases and keeps them. Everything goes on ebay the same day. Every group break I'm in the cards are on ebay faster than I can take a #@#@#@#@. There's just not enough people to buy all this junk.....

That's how bad demand is and how few true collectors exist today.
yep, i'll never understand why some people bust wax. even with the occasional big hit there's no way they're making money.

i've seen MacKinnon autos out of spx sell for less than the price of a box. what exactly are you holding out for if you're busting product and selling top hits for less than you paid for a box? i don't get it.

i wonder what the ratio is of collectors to flippers (including people who consider themselves collectors but are truly flippers).

just yesterday i was watching a Dez Bryant (sorry about the sport change) 2013 National Treasures NFL Shield Auto 1/1 on ebay. it sold for $320. a good player... a team with a big fan base... a high end product... a 1/1 Shield Auto... and he sold it for, give or take, 70% of what he paid for the box. wtf is that?

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Old 04-28-2014, 04:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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95% sellers / 5 % buyers

If even that.....will always be the problem in this hobby.

Unless they make cards where trish stratus gives you bj's. .....

There's a great idea. Cards of real hookers/escorts which can be redeemed for.....
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I am thinking UD needs the preorder money to pay the factory for the cards. So if preorder doesn't hit certain level, they will just reduce production. Then they can pay the factory and have enough cash flow. Not 100% sure but this may be the case why the numbering is lower than advertised.
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Old 05-04-2014, 11:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Also PMG'S were supposed to be /100 /50 /10
But they ended up /75 /25 /10

Which is good but seems like a big difference in production.
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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They might as well have cut production by 90% because all this stuff is still selling for pennies even with showcase being popular.
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