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Old 07-08-2011, 01:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2011 Press Pass Showcase draft hit break - Cheap!

I tried this last year, but the product had already released and case prices had skyrocketed, so it wasn't affordable for most people. I have tinkered with the structure and I think this new format will allow for more participation.

Here's what I've come up with: Each case contains 12 boxes. Each box contains three packs, each pack contains five cards. That's a total of 180 cards. There will be 36 "hits" and the rest of the cards are base/inserts/parallels. Last year, every card was numbered, so I assume it will be the same again this year. The base/inserts/parallels are nice cards and definitely have more value on the secondary market than typical base/insert/parallel cards. In order to provide greater access to this product, I've decided to make all 180 cards draftable. Depending on your draft position, you may end up with a sweet Dale Jr. oversized sheet metal autograph card, or a base parallel card #'d /299 - but at $13 per slot, it's a minimal risk for the potential of a great return.

The case is $1900. 1900/180 slots = $10.56. Add $2.50 for shipping/supplies and $0.70 for paypal, and that puts us at

$13.75 per slot, $13.25 each additional slot


After all of the slots have been reserved and paid for, I will ask a mod to random the list twice. The results of the random will determine the draft order. The first name on the list gets the first choice of card, the second name gets the second choice, and so on until all 180 cards have been selected.

I will break the case live on Ustream. Following the break, I will scan all 36 hits and post a complete list of the insert/base/parallels (I can scan these too if there is enough demand). I will give everyone until 3:30 PM Pacific time the day after the break to compile a ranked list of the cards. That night, we will go live again Ustream to draft the cards. In the event that you are unable to make it to the live draft, I will select the best available card from your pre-ranked list. During the live draft, there will be a 2 minute timer per pick, so even if you're watching the draft on Ustream, if the two minutes expires I will use your list.

Ideally, the schedule would look something like this:
Day 1: receive the case, go live on Ustream and break the case, post scans/list on the thread

Day 2: Ranked list is due to me by 3:30 PM pacific time. Later that evening, we will go live again on Ustream to draft. Following the draft, the cards will be packaged and prepared for mailing.

Day 3: The cards will be dropped off at the post office.

Special notes:

- Should you receive any card with an expected value of greater than $100, you will be asked to pay for insurance. This is to protect both me and you.

- This break is open to our friends up north (Canada), but you must either have excellent iTrader (including feedback from previous group breaks) or be willing to pay the additional postage for express trackable mail.

Here's the link to the product information:
2011 Press Pass Showcase Racing Hobby 12 Box Case - $1,899.99 : Blowout Cards - Sports Cards and Trading Cards Wholesale Online Store

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Old 07-09-2011, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Break is now open. Format and slot pricing are within the guidelines and the host has provided verification for the age requirement. Please do your own due diligence and only join if you are comfortable with dealing with the host.
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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2 for me please
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Old 07-09-2011, 05:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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WTH, give me 4.
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Got you guys down. I'm on my phone right now, but I'll update the OP later tonight.
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2 over here
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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OP updated with slot reservations. Let's keep it rolling...

Also - the price quoted above is Blowout's weekend special price. The normal cost is $1960. Should we be unable to lock in the weekend special rate, slot prices may raise $0.50 or so.
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I'm bumping this for the night.

We are 7.77777777% full! Only 92.33333333% left to fill! Grab a spot before they're all gone!
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I would be willing to pay more per slot if you grouped all the base/inserts into a slot by the pack.

So you can draft a hit or pack #26 base cards.

It would double the value of the slot but provide big value for some base slots. Rather than 100+ people ending up with crap. Not trying to change your break, just a suggestion that may have a better chance of filling this break.

Put me in for 5 slots eitherway.
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I would think that you need to change this to reduce the number of slots. There should be 4 slots per box - the three hits and all of the other commons.

If anyone wants to buy some numbered base that are short printed I have several hundred from last year that I would be happy to sell for $1-$3 depending on the drivers.
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I would think that you need to change this to reduce the number of slots. There should be 4 slots per box - the three hits and all of the other commons.

If anyone wants to buy some numbered base that are short printed I have several hundred from last year that I would be happy to sell for $1-$3 depending on the drivers.
I think I'm going to leave the format as-is for at least a few more days. Everyone knows that Nascar inserts and parallels sell well within the first week or two of a new product release, especially the higher-end releases. Last year, the base cards /499 (which were the highest-numbered cards in the set) sold for $4-5 out the gate (and even a few dollars more depending on the driver). The parallels /50 and lower still sell well on ebay a year after the release.

Yeah, you may pay $13.75 and end up with a card that only sells for $3. Or you could pay $13.75 and end up with a card that sells for $300. Kind of like any other group break out there. I just bought 10 slots in a 2010 Bowman DPP break at $15+ per slot. There was a good chance my slots would've yielded me a lot of 6 Tommy Manzella cards. That's how breaks work.

At least in this break, you can be sure that there will be a ton of cards that will sell for well above the slot price.
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I would be willing to pay more per slot if you grouped all the base/inserts into a slot by the pack.

So you can draft a hit or pack #26 base cards.

It would double the value of the slot but provide big value for some base slots. Rather than 100+ people ending up with crap. Not trying to change your break, just a suggestion that may have a better chance of filling this break.

Put me in for 5 slots eitherway.

Not a bad idea, but it would double the slot price. My idea when putting this together was to keep the slot prices under $15 to make it more accessible.

Last year I tried to do it with 48 slots - 36 hit slots and one slot for each box worth of base. Only 4 or 5 slots filled. I think there is a breaking point for people - once a slot price gets over $20 or so, it really limits the participation.

I'm going to let this run for a few more days under the current format and we'll see what happens.
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Bumping this up one more time.

We are actually on a decent pace to fill this before the product releases. We've filled more spots than I thought we would by this time.
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I'm going to bump this for the weekend. If significant interest isn't shown by Monday I'll request to move it closed. Perhaps another member can then run a break with less slots at a higher price per slot.
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would be in for 5 slots if this takes off. would still be interested even if format is changed.
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I will take one please, and would prefer a slot of 1 box base/parrallels rather than just one card.
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I'll roll with 5 slots on this one. Thanks.
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