Papiis01 - Terrible Trader

yankeesfan24 · 12-20-2010, 06:09 PM

beware. lied to me several times about sending the card we made in a trade, then sends base cards that i already had instead.

WORST part is that he gave me a negative for leaving him one, so he is being reported to the Mods...

ChicagoCubsWS · 12-20-2010, 06:16 PM

send them a PM about him leaving retaliation feedback...should get him a ban

papiis01 · 12-20-2010, 06:17 PM

All this was over a $3 card ! Thanks for getting me out of this hobby and having lost the respect of many members and friends.

mufasa · 12-20-2010, 06:18 PM

That is some BS feedback right there. Who cares what the value was. He did not send the agreed upon card and somehow you get a negative?? Hopefully that gets taken care of for you.

yankeesfan24 · 12-20-2010, 06:20 PM

yeah, sent a PM to pskell, hopefully he does something about it. just more upset that Papiis01 wasnt honest about sending the dual, like he said he did

jstapleton71 · 12-20-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan24

yeah, sent a PM to pskell, hopefully he does something about it. just more upset that Papiis01 wasnt honest about sending the dual, like he said he did

If you could find one of the administrators that would help too...maybe get it removed quicker...Pat is one I think...good luck...I would definitley report him for retalatory feedback

avjp87 · 12-20-2010, 06:36 PM

Guys, i don't know the whole situation. But Keegan, i know you from SCF and know you're a stand up trader. Nick, i know you from here and have done many deals, and not one was bad. The negatives on both parts were probably wrong and all of this should have just been kept to PM's, but this crap happens all the time. Misunderstandings and mistakes. I work for the court system of Philadelphia and i see scum every day getting second chances after doing terrible and horrible things. So when it comes to stuff like this, just let the crap slide and move on. You both are good kids and don't start trouble here, you enjoy the hobby. For both of you, don't let a small transaction like this one, get in the way of your hobby. We all need a hobby or something to escape from the crap parts of life, and this is one of those escapes.

Relax guys, you're both cool.

crazy8parlay · 12-20-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by avjp87

Guys, i don't know the whole situation. But Keegan, i know you from SCF and know you're a stand up trader. Nick, i know you from here and have done many deals, and not one was bad. The negatives on both parts were probably wrong and all of this should have just been kept to PM's, but this crap happens all the time. Misunderstandings and mistakes. I work for the court system of Philadelphia and i see scum every day getting second chances after doing terrible and horrible things. So when it comes to stuff like this, just let the crap slide and move on. You both are good kids and don't start trouble here, you enjoy the hobby. For both of you, don't let a small transaction like this one, get in the way of your hobby. We all need a hobby or something to escape from the crap parts of life, and this is one of those escapes.

Relax guys, you're both cool.

Very well said!

How bout them EAGLES!

cardlover29 · 12-20-2010, 07:39 PM

i just paid papiis, hope i get my cards...

saintsfan67 · 12-20-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cardlover29

i just paid papiis, hope i get my cards...

YOU WILL.....

yankeesfan24 · 12-20-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cardlover29

i just paid papiis, hope i get my cards...

dont worry about that. like i said, im more angry that i was lied to than him being honest with me

pmannings#1fan · 12-20-2010, 07:43 PM

Well this thread will end well!!!

NonSportsCardForum · 12-20-2010, 08:11 PM

If people were up front and honest and handled their business like theyre suppose to, itrader wouldnt need a negative as a feedback option.

SacGWYNN19 · 12-20-2010, 08:24 PM

so a neg was sent over a $3 card.....?

Then a neg was sent over said $3 neg?......... This is why I have only bought and sold on here.

Pretty embarrassing........I will stick to the bay and said $3 fees.

ilovethelakings · 12-20-2010, 08:42 PM

Just want to say that I have traded with papi before and didn't have any problem at all.

yankeesfan24 · 12-20-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SacGWYNN19

so a neg was sent over a $3 card.....?

Then a neg was sent over said $3 neg?......... This is why I have only bought and sold on here.

Pretty embarrassing........I will stick to the bay and said $3 fees.

so if we made a deal and i sent you something different than what we agreed on, AND I lied to you about shipping it 3 times, you wouldnt care at all? that is basically what you just said there

leebal24 · 12-20-2010, 09:48 PM

I have bought from papiis01 before and he sent me my stuff,Just work it out guys and get the negs. removed and move on.hell make another trade together..

bboi30 · 12-21-2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan24

beware. lied to me several times about sending the card we made in a trade, then sends base cards that i already had instead.

WORST part is that he gave me a negative for leaving him one, so he is being reported to the Mods...

Glad you did report it. If you have the PM's to prove it then you did the right thing. Neg. is warranted. I don't know the guy, but a deal is a deal no matter who it is. Good luck and I hope it works out.

mr.baseball · 12-21-2010, 03:17 AM

leave my boy nick alone he is a stand up dude not saying yankee isnt .but regardless theses guys low end trading not worth the argument

mr.baseball · 12-21-2010, 03:19 AM

he collecrs taylor price for god sake u shouldve known yankee .thats what u get for dealing with a red sock

cking · 12-21-2010, 03:25 AM

I am not getting involved with this transaction but I would just like to say that I have done deals with both parties involved and they both went perfectly. I really hope you guys can work this out, you are both good standing members on here.

yankeesfan24 · 12-21-2010, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bboi30

Glad you did report it. If you have the PM's to prove it then you did the right thing. Neg. is warranted. I don't know the guy, but a deal is a deal no matter who it is. Good luck and I hope it works out.

yeah, have all pms

bigdaddyblue73 · 12-21-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cardlover29

i just paid papiis, hope i get my cards...

Jesus Christ! The guy has over 200 HUNDRED deals on here at 100% positive feedback til this one.

Let me tell you all something:

9 times out of ten, when a business deal of anykind goes bad, it has nothing to do with duplicity of any sort. It is a misunderstanding or simple error. Some of the guys on here no doubt lead very busy lives. They may work, they may have families at home, they may have businesses to take care of. They may have a lot on their plate. They might make a mistake with a single deal OUT OF OVER 200 and you are going to start lamblasting them?

UNBELIEVABLE!

And start these stupid threads?

I thought the jackasses on the toy forums were petty but this is insane.

I do not know papiss from Adam and looks like he is a Pats fan so we have probably argued in here somewhere, but for Christ's sake a guy doesn't geet over 200 deals with 100% positive feedback by ripping people off!

Use yer brains for a minute!

It had to be nothing more than either a simple misunderstanding or an error.

ManInTheMirror · 12-21-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.baseball

leave my boy nick alone he is a stand up dude not saying yankee isnt .but regardless theses guys low end trading not worth the argument

All I'm gonna say is that I don't agree with the bolded part. Regardless of actual value of the item(s) being traded both traders should be able to get it done the right way. If you really think that someone can slag someone off because the cards they are wanting from them are only worth $5 then you are sadly mistaken.

mufasa · 12-21-2010, 12:15 PM

Bingo. MITM is correct. I don't care if someone does me dirty on a 1.00 card or a 100.00 card. And by looking at the feedback that Papiis left, he is in the wrong.

12-20-2010, 06:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
yankeesfan24 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Middle Of Nowhere, PA Posts: 16,131 tommy2221race	Papiis01 - Terrible Trader beware. lied to me several times about sending the card we made in a trade, then sends base cards that i already had instead. WORST part is that he gave me a negative for leaving him one, so he is being reported to the Mods... __________________ *Blowout's Resident DeMarco Murray Supercollector* DM PC Stats: 952/1435. 108 1/1's, 196 Autos, 205 Gu, 239 #ed, 201 Base/RC's *http://demarcomurraysupercollector.webs.com/index.htm* Also want your Brook Lopez, Mason Plumlee and Deron Williams

12-20-2010, 06:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
ChicagoCubsWS Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Denver, IA Posts: 5,044 ajcollectiblesltd	send them a PM about him leaving retaliation feedback...should get him a ban __________________ Collecting Cubs Prospects

12-20-2010, 06:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
yankeesfan24 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Middle Of Nowhere, PA Posts: 16,131 tommy2221race	yeah, sent a PM to pskell, hopefully he does something about it. just more upset that Papiis01 wasnt honest about sending the dual, like he said he did __________________ *Blowout's Resident DeMarco Murray Supercollector* DM PC Stats: 952/1435. 108 1/1's, 196 Autos, 205 Gu, 239 #ed, 201 Base/RC's *http://demarcomurraysupercollector.webs.com/index.htm* Also want your Brook Lopez, Mason Plumlee and Deron Williams

12-20-2010, 06:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
avjp87 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 10,833 avjp87	Guys, i don't know the whole situation. But Keegan, i know you from SCF and know you're a stand up trader. Nick, i know you from here and have done many deals, and not one was bad. The negatives on both parts were probably wrong and all of this should have just been kept to PM's, but this crap happens all the time. Misunderstandings and mistakes. I work for the court system of Philadelphia and i see scum every day getting second chances after doing terrible and horrible things. So when it comes to stuff like this, just let the crap slide and move on. You both are good kids and don't start trouble here, you enjoy the hobby. For both of you, don't let a small transaction like this one, get in the way of your hobby. We all need a hobby or something to escape from the crap parts of life, and this is one of those escapes. Relax guys, you're both cool. __________________ Ray27Ray52: "53% constitutes a majority? Good to know."

12-20-2010, 07:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
cardlover29 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 269 buffylover29	i just paid papiis, hope i get my cards... __________________ http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg82/cardlover29/

12-20-2010, 06:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
papiis01 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 12,142	All this was over a $3 card ! Thanks for getting me out of this hobby and having lost the respect of many members and friends.

12-20-2010, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
mufasa Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,664	That is some BS feedback right there. Who cares what the value was. He did not send the agreed upon card and somehow you get a negative?? Hopefully that gets taken care of for you.

12-20-2010, 07:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
pmannings#1fan Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 8,114 lookin4deals36	Well this thread will end well!!! __________________ S.Y.L.B 1%

12-20-2010, 08:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
NonSportsCardForum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin Tx Posts: 6,546	If people were up front and honest and handled their business like theyre suppose to, itrader wouldnt need a negative as a feedback option. __________________ Crap for trade- https://picasaweb.google.com/103658828018382987910

12-20-2010, 08:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
SacGWYNN19 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,786	so a neg was sent over a $3 card.....? Then a neg was sent over said $3 neg?......... This is why I have only bought and sold on here. Pretty embarrassing........I will stick to the bay and said $3 fees.

12-20-2010, 08:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
ilovethelakings Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North Mexico Posts: 13,571	Just want to say that I have traded with papi before and didn't have any problem at all. __________________ Looking for A&G sized minis and Topps Olympic relics, pins, etc. for my daughter and refractors for my son Personal GU's Favs: Kings, Angels, Broncos, Packers, Steelers, international teams Don't drink and break. It's the law.

12-20-2010, 09:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
leebal24 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,821 LEEBAL13 LEEBAL24	I have bought from papiis01 before and he sent me my stuff,Just work it out guys and get the negs. removed and move on.hell make another trade together.. __________________ Always looking for Prospects in BASEBALL and FOOTBALL

12-21-2010, 03:17 AM	#19 (permalink)
mr.baseball Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: rhode islan Posts: 500 shellbelle030908	leave my boy nick alone he is a stand up dude not saying yankee isnt .but regardless theses guys low end trading not worth the argument __________________ collecting yankee,patriots, celtics cano,rivera,jeter,posada autos http://s740.photobucket.com/home/grindtime24

12-21-2010, 03:19 AM	#20 (permalink)
mr.baseball Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: rhode islan Posts: 500 shellbelle030908	he collecrs taylor price for god sake u shouldve known yankee .thats what u get for dealing with a red sock __________________ collecting yankee,patriots, celtics cano,rivera,jeter,posada autos http://s740.photobucket.com/home/grindtime24

12-21-2010, 03:25 AM	#21 (permalink)
cking Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8,810 cking	I am not getting involved with this transaction but I would just like to say that I have done deals with both parties involved and they both went perfectly. I really hope you guys can work this out, you are both good standing members on here. __________________ Topps Chrome Red Refractors /25 and Topps Chrome Gold Refractors /50. Bowman Chrome Orange Refractors /25 and Bowman Chrome Gold Refractors /50 Bring them to me-Football only

12-21-2010, 12:15 PM	#25 (permalink)
mufasa Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,664	Bingo. MITM is correct. I don't care if someone does me dirty on a 1.00 card or a 100.00 card. And by looking at the feedback that Papiis left, he is in the wrong.

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