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Old 02-07-2011, 10:41 AM   #26 (permalink)
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This is the feedback I left him during a trade we did. Pretty much sums it up.

I'm not one to just rag on someone or leave negative feedback(have never done it before), but it is required in this situation. Here is a step by step of what happened.

1. We agree on the trade.
2. I message him saying I shipped his card, and he says ok and also says he will send mine when he gets his. (I am not a fan of sending first, but it isn't a deal breaker for me, but Its really lousy that you don't tell someone until after you make the trade and they ship first, atleast be upfront about it).
If that was the biggest issue, I wouldn't have said anything but it continues.
3. A week goes by, and I pm him asking if he got his card, and if he has shipped mine. He asks which card am I receiving and I say the LT rookie, and he says yes, its in the mail.
4. On friday, I get his package, but there is no LT rookie card. It is a note with 1 base card, and 3 ok rookie cards, all of which are bent/damaged in some way. The note says the LT was traded months ago.

This irritates me because a. he should have checked before we agreed on the trade, and b. He had a chance to tell me after he received his card, and we could have made it right then(I pick a card I want instead of 3 ok rookies), instead of him just underhanding me and not telling me and saying its a 1 in a million chance and giving me 3 or 4 random BENT/Damaged cards.

It seems he tried to make this ok, but did a very poor job of it, and should have messaged me right away.

Found out after the fact, that he ended up trading the card like 2 days after we agreed to another member.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:44 AM   #27 (permalink)
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He got banned cause he's a scammer and he went absolutely nuts one day on one of his threads by saying some derogatory comments towards members.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:25 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Ok guys, I am in conversation with Steven's uncle Bill. Here is what he just said:

"OK. I apologize for this. He is my nephew. I just spoke with his dad, my brother, and we will straighten this all out. If you would please let me know what cards they were and an address to get the items returned to, I assure you that it will be returned. I apologize for all of this. Teenage boys and the things they do."

cardshow, I need you to PM me with full details on the deal you had with Santmyre including your address. I will then immediately forward the information to Bill and we can get this straightened out.

Any other members who had open deals with Santmyre need to speak up now.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Eric- High five!!!!!
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Damn. I really wanted some of his base cards too.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:37 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Ok guys, I am in conversation with Steven's uncle Bill. Here is what he just said:

"OK. I apologize for this. He is my nephew. I just spoke with his dad, my brother, and we will straighten this all out. If you would please let me know what cards they were and an address to get the items returned to, I assure you that it will be returned. I apologize for all of this. Teenage boys and the things they do."

cardshow, I need you to PM me with full details on the deal you had with Santmyre including your address. I will then immediately forward the information to Bill and we can get this straightened out.

Any other members who had open deals with Santmyre need to speak up now.
Nice work man! Hope he gets a spankin!
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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if you are trading someone on here, how do we decide who sends first? i mean you guys are asking if he made him send first. I mean if you didnt know he was bs, which i assume you wouldn't if you traded with im....itd be just as fair for me them to want ME to trade them first.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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if you are trading someone on here, how do we decide who sends first? i mean you guys are asking if he made him send first. I mean if you didnt know he was bs, which i assume you wouldn't if you traded with im....itd be just as fair for me them to want ME to trade them first.


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Old 02-07-2011, 10:53 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Ok guys, I am in conversation with Steven's uncle Bill. Here is what he just said:

"OK. I apologize for this. He is my nephew. I just spoke with his dad, my brother, and we will straighten this all out. If you would please let me know what cards they were and an address to get the items returned to, I assure you that it will be returned. I apologize for all of this. Teenage boys and the things they do."

cardshow, I need you to PM me with full details on the deal you had with Santmyre including your address. I will then immediately forward the information to Bill and we can get this straightened out.

Any other members who had open deals with Santmyre need to speak up now.
Any hope of the rest of us getting an email address? My stuff was nearly not as important as cardshow's deal but I want to at least let the parent or uncle know there are more of us that he tried to scam.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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im more asking...so plz no one take the context wrong....is it based on itrader?! i havent done much far as trading...since i dont have a LOT to trade...usually just buy/sell.
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im more asking...so plz no one take the context wrong....is it based on itrader?! i havent done much far as trading...since i dont have a LOT to trade...usually just buy/sell.
The common practice on this board when trading is that the member with the lower feedback send first.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:58 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Based on itrader and how long you have been around, how active you are ect. Also depends on the people involved and what has been agreed upon. I had to send first on my first trade to a pretty involved member so it was no big deal for me.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:59 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I haven't had a problem with people sending at the same time as me, after 5 or 6 iTraders people seemed to be OK with sending at the same time.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:01 PM   #39 (permalink)
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MITM- Tell his uncle I don't want the Addai refractor back. I want it burned in front of him.

Or used as target practice, A LA Saintsfan
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MITM- Tell his uncle I don't want the Addai refractor back. I want it burned in front of him.

Or used as target practice, A LA Saintsfan
Or rolled up and shoved up the kid's a$$...
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Or rolled up and shoved up the kid's a$$...
Either or. That would bring me more enjoyment than the card itself. You try to help out someone with their PC and they dick over a bunch of people. Hope the kid gets a swift kick in the arse!
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:08 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Traded a Anthony Gonzalez gu for his Frank Thomas gu. I'll give it a few days to see if it shows up, and if it doesn't that's ok.

I'm just glad I didn't trade that Reggie Wayne Letterman...hah
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:11 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Any hope of the rest of us getting an email address? My stuff was nearly not as important as cardshow's deal but I want to at least let the parent or uncle know there are more of us that he tried to scam.
I did politely inform him that there were other members involved and that the other members got burned too, just not as badly as this particular member. I did ask above for anyone else who was involved in a deal with him to speak up. This was the next message from him:

"Thank you. His dad has assured me that this will be taken care of. I will wait on your message with the information. Please accept my apology for Steve, as I was once a teenager myself."

Bill and Steven's dad are wanting to right all wrongs here so if needed anybody may PM me further if they would like.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:15 PM   #44 (permalink)
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this is classic. Grounded for life!!!!
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:19 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I was thinking about posting a 10 card Colt base lot for 15 dlvd, but then he got banned
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:12 AM   #46 (permalink)
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well odds are looking good i will get my cash and auto's and gu cards i will let the kid keep the base cards to pleasure himself with lmfao .
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:33 PM   #47 (permalink)
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cardshow, just logged into facebook and found a message awaiting me from Bill:

"Good morning Eric,
The cards, $25, and a letter of apology was sent out by my nephew a couple of days ago to the address you gave to me. Your friend should be receiving it any time now if he hasn't already. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I hope you have a great weekend.
Bill"
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Got the Texans cards today.
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Thanks man in the mirror hope I get them soon
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:29 PM   #50 (permalink)
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It's great to see most of the people who got ripped get their stuff back. Great job on the detective work Eric haha.
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