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Old 03-27-2011, 06:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I caught him red handed lying. He said he never received my end of the deal in a trade but i see my cards end up in someone else's photobucket. I am not blaming the current owner of my cards at all.

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Autos and GU :: Bradford /299 picture by shadymccoy25 - Photobucket
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Is he up to this #@#@#@#@ again? There was a thread about him a few months ago.
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if this means anything, i'm waiting on a payment from him.
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this clown has been a known jack-off for awhile, leave him negative, let a mod know what happened and maybe we can get rid of his punk-azz for good. you just got caught red handed stealing he really needs to go (man-up Mods & Blowout) and do the right thing here. But what ravens4life really needs in a hard punch to the side of the head, the little #@#@#@#@#@#@!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i sent message to admin and hoping to get this little punk banned
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Thanks guys, I just about to buy some cards from him with a money order. I asked him about his feedback and he said that the negatives were from a long time ago and he didnt scam anyone. Glad I know now.
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Dirtbag. Needs much more than a punch. Someone sell him a card then don't send it to him. Make him pay gift too. That should do the trick.

Give him a taste of his own medicine.

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this clown has been a known jack-off for awhile, leave him negative, let a mod know what happened and maybe we can get rid of his punk-azz for good. you just got caught red handed stealing he really needs to go (man-up Mods & Blowout) and do the right thing here. But what ravens4life really needs in a hard punch to the side of the head, the little #@#@#@#@#@#@!!!!!!!!!!
Pennst is still a member here so dont hold your breathe. I agree a good biotchhhhhhhhhh slap upside his grill might knock some sense into him.
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Pennst is still a member here so dont hold your breathe. I agree a good biotchhhhhhhhhh slap upside his grill might knock some sense into him.
Yeah, but Penn st. (to my knowledge anyway) apparently refunded everyone. This dude str8 up stole the card (wonder why there was no DC) and then sold it to another guy. Just Shady and str8 up Dirty.
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i had an interesting trade with him. that scan is mine btw. it took weeks because he kept trying to trade me cards that he didnt have. when all the cards were in his hand and the negotiating began he kept complaining that i was getting the better deal. i should be getting a better deal with a know ripper. it took him a week to put the cards in the mail then lied about when the shipping date was. when i received the cards they were in great condition but one of the cards was different than agreed on. i didnt here back from him weather or not he received my end but i always use a dc so he cant lie to much about that. if he claims someone stole it from his mailbox its a lie spokane washington where he lives has practically no crime i know i have relatives that live there. should i send them by his house for a visit.
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Yeah, but Penn st. (to my knowledge anyway) apparently refunded everyone. This dude str8 up stole the card (wonder why there was no DC) and then sold it to another guy. Just Shady and str8 up Dirty.
With all due respect,it does not matter to me that they refunded everyone. What they did was slimy and shady. Am I glad everyone got there money back? Of course I am. Knowing that they are capable of those types of actions is enough for me to stay away. What ever happened to character and integrity?
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i will take some fault in this with having no DC because i guess i was so comfortable trading without one because everyone else is trustworthy. I neglected to take a glance at his iTrader and i paid for it. I messaged him with my evidence and havent gotten a response from the little cheat.
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i will take some fault in this with having no DC because i guess i was so comfortable trading without one because everyone else is trustworthy. I neglected to take a glance at his iTrader and i paid for it. I messaged him with my evidence and havent gotten a response from the little cheat.
just for future references "trustworthy or not" you should use DC with every transaction
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With all due respect,it does not matter to me that they refunded everyone. What they did was slimy and shady. Am I glad everyone got there money back? Of course I am. Knowing that they are capable of those types of actions is enough for me to stay away. What ever happened to character and integrity?
I agree with you, but was just stating the obvious and it seems this guy Ravens has done this before. Also I believe in redemption if someone fesses up and makes it right and learnes from his mistakes.

I recently completed a trade with a guy who had a negative, and it seems the Negative was unfounded. I asked him for additional insurance and he came through. I would do the same with Pennst. or anyone else who had a negative.
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just for future references "trustworthy or not" you should use DC with every transaction
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That's proof, contact a MOD or the Administrater!!!
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I have PM from him on 3-14 that he has not received my end of the deal and on 3-18 he received iTrader for my cards from someone else
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I have PM from him on 3-14 that he has not received my end of the deal and on 3-18 he received iTrader for my cards from someone else
ah so thats why it took him a week to send out because i didnt receive the cards yet like he told me he did. so he lied to me about that as well.
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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no i sent my stuff out on march 2nd then asked on the 14th
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I agree with you, but was just stating the obvious and it seems this guy Ravens has done this before. Also I believe in redemption if someone fesses up and makes it right and learnes from his mistakes.

I recently completed a trade with a guy who had a negative, and it seems the Negative was unfounded. I asked him for additional insurance and he came through. I would do the same with Pennst. or anyone else who had a negative.
I understand where you are coming from. Everybody makes mistakes. Me included. The part that bothers me the most is that from my observation it seems that some people think what Pennst did was ok as long as a refund was given, I dont agree with that and I never will. I spoke with Fish (mod) about it before and I will tell you the same thing I told him. It does not matter to me one bit that pennst is still allowed here because I will never deal with them and if they rob someone else its not my problem. I cant do deals with people and just 'hope' that they are gonna do the right thing. I work too hard for my money to take chances with people with proven track records of dishonesty.
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he d*cked me around for a while now I just troll is 4sale threads as I know no one will ever get paid or the other end of a deal.

also w/pennst he/she will be banned once the bgs group grading fiasco is over from my understanding.
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this kid was banned from a couple sites before under the name brianrocks, if you look at his photobucket link. it's brianrocks.

waiting for $16 paypal from him, doubt i'll get it.
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Everybody should get there thoughts in now as I am sure this will be locked shortly. It seems like anytime people speak up about scammers the threads disappear.
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