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Old 04-01-2011, 05:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking for advice from the members on here, on a transaction that happened during most of March. I'm not going to post his/her username (yet), just looking for everyones opinion.

On March 4th, we agreed on a deal, I'd get $30 that he'd send 2 or 3 days later, and they'd get a large amount of 2010 Magic base, minis, and a auto for their set. Almost a month later, on March 29th (25 days later) I still hadn't received payment. I waited patiently as I live in Alaska, and mail takes a lot longer to/from here. I PM this member and asked about the status of the $30, 2 days later I get a reply that said "I picked up tons of Magic cards in the past 26 days. I can't afford to buy the same cards again. If you're willing to work on a new deal (I have many other wants) that's fine. Let me know." Let me remind you that for the last 26 days, I hadn't heard one word from this person, last contact we had was I'll send you the payment thurs or fri. Now after almost a month of waiting they want me to find a new deal for them, though they agreed on the first deal, and never came through. Below is the communication from the original deal:







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I'm sure we'll do business in the future. We'll be in touch.

Thanks,

**********


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I'll get your order packaged up and up no later then monday, with the Keith Rivers. Remember me as I've opened a ton of 2010 Magic, and have more on the way. I've already completed my base set, just a few cards away from my mini set, and working on my black mini set now. If you decide to pick up some more auto's or anything else from Magic, you know where to find me




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Throw in an auto and I'll take all base/inserts/minis/1 auto for $ 30 shipped.


Also, the list of these cards is based on my needs, correct? I mean, those cards what I'm looking for?


LMK



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I never pm'ed you about the stamp cards, just responded to your thread, to CMB, as I had a ton of Sp's, Auto's, few, jerseys, stamps, and you responded you don't check buckets. But like I said, they are on Ebay now with just over a day left all 3 are still at $9.99 where they were started. I'm actually starting to get worried, the McArthur has been consistently selling between $100 - $150, and if mine ends at $10, I will not be happy.

As for the cards you need for sets, I'll do $30, as I believe its 87 cards total, as for the autos for $2 - 3, I can't really do that, but I could do some at $4 if you'd be interested. LMK




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hey man, I really want all base/minis/black minis/inserts that you
have (assuming that's what I'm looking for). Also, I might be interested in very cheap $ 2-3 autos.

Shoot me the total and we'll go from there.

I never got your first pm with stamps cards, I need those too but I'd prefer to avoid bidding war at the moment.

LMK the price and what autos and pigskin cards you can let go cheap.





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I have these:

Regular Base:

54, 59,60,69, 84,86 ,94,108,119,120, 131, 152,197,200,213

cards 248 and 250 don't exist

Regular Minis:

3, 4, 13, 16, 17, 35, 36, 37, 44, 51, 62, 64, 66, 67, 77, 91, 92, 95, 100, 101, 118, 122, 126, 133, 141, 144, 146, 149, 150, 154, 157, 158, 165, 171, 178, 184, 189, 193, 197, 198, 207, 209, 210, 211, 221, 228, 240, 242, 247,

Mini black

5, 35, 44, 65, 84, 95, 105. 109, 122, 130, 136, 141, 158, 181, 189, 201, 202, 205, 226,


Rookie Stars

7

Magical Moments

4,19.

History's Best

9.

I have 3 stamps, when you didn't respond to my 1st pm to you, I put them on ebay, they are only at $10 apiece, with just over a day left. They are Douglas McArthur, Capurnicus, and Elizabeth Blackwell. I have 2 jerseys left, Mike Williams (TB) and Aaron Rogers, both /25. I have at least a douzen pigskin mini's /50. Some of the auto's I currently have is

Keith rivers
anthony dixon
golden tate
derek anderson
armanti edwards
dennis dixon
willis mcgahee
juaquin iglesias
jonathan dwyer
kellen winslow
anthony gonzalez SP
joe webb
eric berry
kellen clemens
jarrett dillard
david anderson
brooks foster
michael jenkins
cedric peerman
rashad jennings
malcolm jenkins
james hardy
jake long
brian brohm
amobi okoye
arrelious benn
bobby carpenter
brian cushing
jonathon stewart
jacoby jones
zac robinson
david harris
quan crosby
mohamed massaquoi
jerome harrison
carlton mitchell
jonathon crompton
laron landry
early doucet

Send me a list of what your interested in, or make a offer, LMK







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My current list is up to date.

Just let me know what you have and how much.

Thanks.






So what does everyone think?
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Old 04-01-2011, 07:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just leave a negative.

He agreed and never sent money and had NO communication.

People like that should be avoided. You negative will help others.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Leave a Negative!
What it should read..
"HORRIBLE COMMUNICATION! BACKED OUT OF DEAL! F-!"
That sucks man!

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Old 04-01-2011, 11:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Negative indeed as it sounds like he had no intention of paying. Also never sned first unless it's on a trade & no cash is involved. Good Luck
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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What's the point anymore though? He will leave a negative, then the other guy will leave a negative - and then the MODS will remove both feedbacks. This keeps happening around here lately. It makes the iTrader a complete joke, and the rules about retilations feedback don't even get enforced.

I'm sorry for your bad luck OP, but negatives don't mean anything around here anymore - because they will be erased sooner than later.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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A negative for sure. Heck you held onto those cards for him for 26 days when you could have dealt them elsewhere. We need to know so we can stay away.
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Old 04-01-2011, 01:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What's the point anymore though? He will leave a negative, then the other guy will leave a negative - and then the MODS will remove both feedbacks. This keeps happening around here lately. It makes the iTrader a complete joke, and the rules about retilations feedback don't even get enforced.

I'm sorry for your bad luck OP, but negatives don't mean anything around here anymore - because they will be erased sooner than later.
No doubt. The removal of BOTH negative trend is "disturbing" to say the least.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Though I delieve he deserves a negative, I'm sure once I leave him one (deservedly), he'll send me one back in return, and I don't wanna ruin my flawless feeedback, thats my fear
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Though I delieve he deserves a negative, I'm sure once I leave him one (deservedly), he'll send me one back in return, and I don't wanna ruin my flawless feeedback, thats my fear
This is pretty f'd up when you cannot even leave a negative anymore for someone that obviously deserves it for fear that you will receive one, too.

PM the mods with the messages explained, tell them you are leaving a neg to warn other potential buyers/traders (which is the point of the system in the first place) and ask that if you receive a retaliatory negative they strike it.
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Though I delieve he deserves a negative, I'm sure once I leave him one (deservedly), he'll send me one back in return, and I don't wanna ruin my flawless feeedback, thats my fear
Out of pure principal you should leave the Neg. Just keep the PM's and have it worked out with the mods if he does. If he agreed to a deal and backed out then leave the neg and deal with getting his removed if he leaves one later. He will need to mount a defense for his neg. and I can't see how he could.

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He committed by promising to send you money, all the while expecting yu to consider the cards SOLD to him.

Leave a Negative.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I just left a negative, hope the MODS will have my back when he retaliates
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If money isn't received when stated then no deal shall exist. If he didn't pay that day or the next then I myself would have considered it as "he didn't want em" & look for another buyer. If we gave negs for this all the time there would be more negs than positives!!
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Jesus Chris,

You need a forum advice on this matter.

She is talking about me.

I didn't send my payment because she/he requested payment by money order.

I was too damn busy to go to a post office and send my payment.

I could pay with paypal immediately.

Also, I sent a message to seller saying that I'd like to work out another deal but the seller insisted on the original deal.

I blame seller, why the hell can't you accept paypal?

I won't retaliate, I'm not a n00b, I'm not some piece of garbage.

I admit, I was wrong but stop accepting money orders only, it's a n00b thing to do.
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I didn't send my payment because she/he requested payment by money order.

I was too damn busy to go to a post office and send my payment.
This doesn't make any sense at all. In fact the statments contradict each other. The first one makes it seem like you denied the deal due to the request of money order as payment. Then the next sentence makes it seem like you agreed to the deal but then "never got around to it".
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This is pretty f'd up when you cannot even leave a negative anymore for someone that obviously deserves it for fear that you will receive one, too.

PM the mods with the messages explained, tell them you are leaving a neg to warn other potential buyers/traders (which is the point of the system in the first place) and ask that if you receive a retaliatory negative they strike it.
Doesn't matter anymore. They remove both negs and even delete the thread. Same exact thing happened to me and I didn't even get a PM from the mods that it was done. Poof ... Gone.
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I admit, I was wrong but stop accepting money orders only, it's a n00b thing to do.
How is avoiding Paypal fees a noob thing to do? Not everyone believes in Paypal and their stupid fees. Didn't realize that Paypal was a requirement to sell now a days. Glad to see some people not affected by peer pressure.

YOU should not have agreed to buy in the first place. Glad to see your not blaming the other person, cough, cough.

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you couldnt find 10 minutes out of 3 weeks to go to the post office???
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Jesus Chris,

You need a forum advice on this matter.

She is talking about me.

I didn't send my payment because she/he requested payment by money order.

I was too damn busy to go to a post office and send my payment.

I could pay with paypal immediately.

Also, I sent a message to seller saying that I'd like to work out another deal but the seller insisted on the original deal.

I blame seller, why the hell can't you accept paypal?

I won't retaliate, I'm not a n00b, I'm not some piece of garbage.

I admit, I was wrong but stop accepting money orders only, it's a n00b thing to do.
You found time to sit on here and make the deal, yet you didnt have time to get a money order at a gas station where you were getting gas? Seller has the right to accept any payment they want, you shouldnt have confirmed the deal and backed out. Who wants money going into Paypal now since the IRS can see more than ever with the new transaction laws. Money order makes complete sense, that is if the buyer actually pays.
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