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Old 11-29-2011, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up A few thoughts about Mail and Tracking

1) For those who do not understand what PWE is
PWE = PLAIN WHITE ENVELOPE & generally someone is just gonna lick a stamp and put it in the mailbox, end of story. If you agree to a PWE deal this is what you should expect. (personally when trading PWE i generally pay the extra 20 cents ask my po to mark it nonmachineable but thats me)

2) That USPS tracking code that has been pictured in several threads recently is for internal PO use only. I asked my local PO about this months ago. Please feel free to ask your post office, you'll get the same answer.
The sender is not given the number, so obviously they cant send it to you.
Even if the sender took a snapshot of the clerk putting it on the package there is no way for a recipient to enter into usps.com and get any info.
Call it whatever you want but it is of no use to the sender or recipient.

3) My mom sent me a card for thanksgiving recently.
She sent it out from California on the Nov 15th.
It arrived today.
Regular mail can actually take up to 2 weeks. Between the various boards I belong to ive made at least 400 trades. On several occasions a pwe has taken like 2 weeks. Worse, if someone makes a mistake and the wrong addy or zip is on there it might take up to 6 weeks to get back to sender.
Not to mention the PO occasionally makes mistakes
I couple months ago I sent something to 1640 sumthin street.
The package finally came back to me 7 weeks later with a little sticker on it showing they were trying to deliver to 640 sumthing street, which apparently does not exist. I dont know why they couldnt see what was clearly written.

Moral of story - If you want tracking, pay for it.

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2) That USPS tracking code that has been pictured in several threads recently is for internal PO use only. I asked my local PO about this months ago. Please feel free to ask your post office, you'll get the same answer.
The sender is not given the number, so obviously they cant send it to you.


This has been confirmed today at my PO. The tracking number can NOT be used to locate any mail. It is for mail counting internal purposes. This confirms everything the trolls got pissed about.

Moral of the story: You guys were all wrong.
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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JHC didn't a thread get deleted yesterday over the same BS we see in this one?
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JHC didn't a thread get deleted yesterday over the same BS we see in this one?
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JHC didn't a thread get deleted yesterday over the same BS we see in this one?
I am free to share what I discussed with the PO today. If you dont like it maybe join the bandwagon of people boycotting dealing with me? Not sure what else to tell you pal.
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This has been confirmed today at my PO. The tracking number can NOT be used to locate any mail. It is for mail counting internal purposes. This confirms everything the trolls got pissed about.

Moral of the story: You guys were all wrong
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I am free to share what I discussed with the PO today. If you dont like it maybe join the bandwagon of people boycotting dealing with me? Not sure what else to tell you pal.
I have edited your first post to reflect what I feel would have sufficed.
The part i marked in red is effectively trolling (imo)

Please do not turn what was intended to be informative into another pissmatch

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Moral of story - If you want tracking, pay for it.

Wrong. It is the responsibility of the seller to make sure the item arrives. So the seller needs to factor this into his/her price. Too many little wannbe's here trying to make an extra $1 by not paying for D/C.

When you list a price make it know what the shipping charge will be.

Don't say .75 or $1.75 if you want tracking because I will take the .75 option every time. If the item does not arrive I will get my $$ back.

If you're too much of a broked1k to figure shipping will cost you $2 then maybe you should not be buying cards and trying to sell them
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Wrong. It is the responsibility of the seller to make sure the item arrives. So the seller needs to factor this into his/her price. Too many little wannbe's here trying to make an extra $1 by not paying for D/C.

When you list a price make it know what the shipping charge will be.

Don't say .75 or $1.75 if you want tracking because I will take the .75 option every time. If the item does not arrive I will get my $$ back.

If you're too much of a broked1k to figure shipping will cost you $2 then maybe you should not be buying cards and trying to sell them
I think you misunderstand,

If you sell me a dollar card ,I agree to a 44 cent PWE, and pay you 1.44
I do not then have the right to demand tracking from you correct ?

if i want tracking I'll pay the 2.51

the sellers responsibility is the same in either case.
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What does it matter? You either get the card or you don't....It's 1 or 2 bucks...not really seeing how it matters?
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What does it matter? You either get the card or you don't....It's 1 or 2 bucks...not really seeing how it matters?
I started this thread as a result of seeing someone screaming on for 9 pages about how they didnt get tracking after having agreed to a PWE. I was not a part of the transaction in any way.
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Clearly that person doesnt understand what PWE means to begin with.
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I started this thread as a result of seeing someone screaming on for 9 pages about how they didnt get tracking after having agreed to a PWE. I was not a part of the transaction in any way.
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Clearly that person doesnt understand what PWE means to begin with.
Pretty sure he does. I sent him 2 seperate sales in PWE with no problems at all & was sent the day after the agreement was made. His thread was not the idea of tracking it was the idea of someone waiting forever to send a card.
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I am free to share what I discussed with the PO today. If you dont like it maybe join the bandwagon of people boycotting dealing with me? Not sure what else to tell you pal.
You don't have to tell me JACK SH!T bud. I know how to deal & ship as my itrader speaks volumes. I don't wait to send & I always follow up with my buyers or traders. You need to find your way out of BO.....seriously!!!
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One cant have ones cake and eat it too.
One either pays for tracking or doesnt.
It's not appropriate to be calling someone out for not being able to
provide tracking after paying 44 cents for PWE

99% of the time a PWE will arrive within a few days.
But it COULD take up to 2 weeks.
If the mail is a little slow one just has to be patient and deal with it.
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One cant have ones cake and eat it too.
One either pays for tracking or doesnt.
It not appropriate to be calling someone out for not being able to
provide tracking after paying 44 cents for PWE
If the mail is a little slow one just has to be patient and deal with it.


Agree with these statements.
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I think you misunderstand,

If you sell me a dollar card ,I agree to a 44 cent PWE, and pay you 1.44
I do not then have the right to demand tracking from you correct ?


if i want tracking I'll pay the 2.51

the sellers responsibility is the same in either case.

No you cannot demand tracking from me. BUT if you don't receive the item I am obligated to refund your money.
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No you cannot demand tracking from me. BUT if you don't receive the item I am obligated to refund your money.
As I'm sure you would.
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You don't have to tell me JACK SH!T bud. I know how to deal & ship as my itrader speaks volumes. I don't wait to send & I always follow up with my buyers or traders. You need to find your way out of BO.....seriously!!!
wont happen pal
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wont happen pal
Wow back already? Most people get a 3 day time out at least, didn't take long to snake you're way back did it? D
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Wow back already? Most people get a 3 day time out at least, didn't take long to snake you're way back did it? D
Bumping violation, nothing more. My Itrader here and my other 87 on SCF also speak volumes. Simply refuse to deal with me and problem solved. Edited out the chapstick remark so you dont get a vacation?
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Bumping violation, nothing more. My Itrader here and my other 87 on SCF also speak volumes. Simply refuse to deal with me and problem solved. Edited out the chapstick remark so you dont get a vacation?
Nope I edited the chapstick remark because after a few seconds or minutes I realized I was being rude & insulting & wasn't gonna do it. I could care less about a suspension or vacation as you call it.
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Nope I edited the chapstick remark because after a few seconds or minutes I realized I was being rude & insulting & wasn't gonna do it. I could care less about a suspension or vacation as you call it.
Great we got something in common!

No personal issue with you that I am aware of, if you want me gone the simple solution is to get everyone on the board to refuse to do business, then i will leave. I am here to make deals, if i cant then i take a hike
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Great...some people don't get it.
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Great we got something in common!

No personal issue with you that I am aware of, if you want me gone the simple solution is to get everyone on the board to refuse to do business, then i will leave. I am here to make deals, if i cant then i take a hike
feel free to start a thread about that then,
instead of hijacking others k ?
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feel free to start a thread about that then,
instead of hijacking others k ?
Ill let someone else take honors. Ill respect your thread and leave
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